Who caused MORE damage to the country, ERAP OR GMA? Why?

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[Oh, it happens everyday in all newspapers, except maybe the ones you read. Every editorial, by definition, is the collective opinion of the editorial board.

NOpe ... again read EDITORIALS whom arent identified as EDITORS but with names of the EDITORS . Again compatible ba kaau na sila sa ilang OPINION ? Basin mga labers na sila ha .

Read the definition again. It is expressly labelled as "Editorial" or "opinion" because unlike the news, which generally should not show bias, Editorials and opinion pieces definitely can be biased as they express opinions, not news. Once again you show a lack of understanding of what an editorial is despite the fact that I have already posted a good definition.

Mao gani but the COMBINED OPINIONS matod pa nimo showed only 1 side . Do I need to read again the definition ? Obviously it did not came from the whole staff but a single editor .

I said Mr. Nolasco was probably the one who wrote it as often it is the managing editor who writes the Editorial column. You were asking for a name as to who wrote it, weren't you? But I also explained to you that the reason there is no byline is that whoever wrote the editorial piece, expresses the opinion of the ENTIRE EDITORIAL STAFF. Kapila man nako kinhanglan balik balikon nimo?

Ngano mo sulti man ka ug PROBABLY then u changed ur stand na STAFF to ? So you are not sure ? Kung di ka sure , mahibong ko kay the way you talk mura ka ug EDITOR urself .

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How does it contradict the definition, which states "Editorials are often not written by the regular reporters of the news organization, and are instead collectively authored by a group of individuals called the editorial board without bylines. If written by the board, they represent the newspaper's official positions on issues."? They may not all have the same exact opinions, but they collectively agree that whatever is in the editorial is representative of their views AS A WHOLE.

If written by the board, they represent the newspaper's official positions on issues. Often however, there exist also one or more regular opinion columnists who present their own view. Editorials are almost always printed on their own page of the newspaper, and are always labeled as editorials (to avoid confusion with news coverage). They are often about current events or public controversies.

A part from the DEFINITION u provided , read it again and again until you get to the core .

There is nothing wrong with agreeing with others opinions (or not). In this case, I just happen to agree with the editorial piece. I am posting hopefully to correct your misimpressions about what an editorial is. I respect your right to disagree with it, but please don't make false assumptions like the writer of the piece was hiding behind anonymity when in fact, whoever wrote the piece is speaking for the entire PDI Editorial board.

It is not the issue of AGREEING and DISAGREEING .... ayaw lage ug cover up dayon . Obviously , you are UTILIZING it as a weapon of choice . Say you are an ANTI ... w/o the ANTI PGMA MEDIA , you guys are clueless of what u need to say . Ngano naka ingon ko OBVIOUS ? You are too inclined to know everything about MEDIA and EDITORS when for a fact nagpalaban ra man pod gihapon ka sa definition sa WIKEPDIA .

Again .... read it over and over .... then discuss with me again about ANONIMOUSITY of the reporters / editors .

[bfg9000]

NOpe ... again read EDITORIALS whom arent identified as EDITORS but with names of the EDITORS . Again compatible ba kaau na sila sa ilang OPINION ? Basin mga labers na sila ha .

Mao gani but the COMBINED OPINIONS matod pa nimo showed only 1 side . Do I need to read again the definition ? Obviously it did not came from the whole staff but a single editor

Do opinions have to show both sides? Yes it probably was written by a single editor, for practicality and coherency, but it expresses the collective opinion of the entire editorial staff. The only reason why you don't believe that the whole editorial staff agrees with the piece, is because you yourself don't agree with it. Not agreeing with it is well within your rights. But your lack of understanding of why an editorial doesn't need a byline is quite disappointing. Besides... is the "lack of a byline" the only fault you can find with the piece? Why are you so fixated on "the lack of a byline"?

Ngano mo sulti man ka ug PROBABLY then u changed ur stand na STAFF to ? So you are not sure ? Kung di ka sure , mahibong ko kay the way you talk mura ka ug EDITOR urself .

Huh? I never changed my stand. You asked for an editor, I gave you the managing editor (since he's the day-to-day chief editor). I don't work at PDI and yes, I'm not sure what their procedures are for editorials, but from my experience it is usually the managing editor who writes it with authorization from the Editorial board. And that's why I said it's probably Mr. Nolasco who penned it, representing the ENTIRE EDITORIAL BOARD.

Still, you are bringing up irrelevant issues. The fact remains that the Editorial column of PDI represents the views of the PDI Editorial Staff. Is that fact what you want to dispute?

If written by the board, they represent the newspaper's official positions on issues. Often however, there exist also one or more regular opinion columnists who present their own view. Editorials are almost always printed on their own page of the newspaper, and are always labeled as editorials (to avoid confusion with news coverage). They are often about current events or public controversies.

If it were written by a single editor, WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PDI EDITORIAL BOARD TO REPRESENT THEM, then the article would have a byline, and by nature it would be called an opinion piece.

It is not the issue of AGREEING and DISAGREEING .... ayaw lage ug cover up dayon . Obviously , you are UTILIZING it as a weapon of choice . Say you are an ANTI ... w/o the ANTI PGMA MEDIA , you guys are clueless of what u need to say . Ngano naka ingon ko OBVIOUS ? You are too inclined to know everything about MEDIA and EDITORS when for a fact nagpalaban ra man pod gihapon ka sa definition sa WIKEPDIA .

I know what an editorial is, unlike you (who thought that editorials should always have bylines). I posted the wikipedia definition to help you, since you're obviously clueless as to what an editorial is. I never said I knew everything about editors and media. But I do know more than you about what an editorial is.

I posted the link because it was (for me anyway) an excellent read, and may add to the topic at hand. As for you, since you seem to look down on people who get information and knowledge from other sources, it's not surprising that you are so uninformed.

[Moshi Moshi]

2004 Mining Act - Foreign Company Owns Philippine Natural Resources. No limit how much they'll take.

Canada's TVI Pacific to expand mining project in Philippines
10/20 1:22:03 PM

CANATUAN (AFP) - Canada's TVI Pacific said Thursday it is set to expand its activities in the gold- and silver-rich mountains of the troubled southern Philippines after buying up mining tenements around its year-old Canatuan project.

The first foreign-funded mining operation in the country for many years plans from 2006 to start extracting copper and zinc found beneath gold and silver deposits now being mined in an open pit atop this mountain on the Zamboanga peninsula of Mindanao island.

Exploration work is also planned shortly on more than 37,000 hectares (91,400 acres) of mining tenements it bought around the current 508-hectare (1,255-acre) production site, company officials said during a press tour of the project.

"We're increasing the project by stages," said John Ridsdel, country manager of Calgary-based TVI Pacific Inc.

Gold and silver ore processing, now at 750 tonnes per day, would be ramped up to 1,000 tonnes per day by next month, said Yulo Perez, mine manager for the locally incorporated TVI Pacific affiliate, TVI Resources Development Philippines Inc.

"By this time next year, roughly, we will have built a second processing plant here in Canatuan and we will be mining and milling not only the gold and silver but also copper and zinc," he said.

TVI Resources officials said fresh exploration activity should increase the projected four-year lifespan of the gold and silver extraction in Canatuan while mining the copper and zinc beneath "should give us another seven years," Perez said.

Should ore deposits be found in the adjacent tenements, TVI Pacific could either bring the output to the Canatuan mill, build another plant, or transfer the Canatuan facilities to the new location.

He said other foreign mining companies, including Anglo American, are involved in exploration and other pre-production activities on Mindanao.

In February, the Supreme Court issued a landmark ruling that allowed foreign companies full control of mining projects in the Philippines after years of disputes over how much access they should have to national assets.

Davide. GMA. DEFENSOR - Treason. - For Giving Philippines National Assets to Foreign Companies.

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Do opinions have to show both sides?

YES kay OPINIONS means more than 1 . Pero kung opinion ra sourcing from 1 person then NO .

Yes it probably was written by a single editor, for practicality and coherency, but it expresses the collective opinion of the entire editorial staff. The only reason why you don't believe that the whole editorial staff agrees with the piece, is because you yourself don't agree with it. Not agreeing with it is well within your rights. But your lack of understanding of why an editorial doesn't need a byline is quite disappointing. Besides... is the "lack of a byline" the only fault you can find with the piece? Why are you so fixated on "the lack of a byline"?

Ikaw ra nagpahaba anng BYLINE and EDITORIALS ALLIANCE whatever it is .... my inquiry was about the anonimousity ... scared ? The identification that is ..... mo reason out lage ka ug in behalf of the whole staff then clearly INQ is ANTI PGMA .... kana I will give in to ur reasoning .

Huh? I never changed my stand. You asked for an editor, I gave you the managing editor (since he's the day-to-day chief editor). I don't work at PDI and yes, I'm not sure what their procedures are for editorials, but from my experience it is usually the managing editor who writes it with authorization from the Editorial board. And that's why I said it's probably Mr. Nolasco who penned it, representing the ENTIRE EDITORIAL BOARD.

That is not the way u presented ur ideas earlier . You answered me with a NAME w/c is PROBABLY Mr Nolasco because I asked for a name . Then2 to 3 replies later ... you changed it to EDITORIAL STAFF .... you never mentioned about Mr Nolasco in behalf of the EDITORIAL STAFF .

Still, you are bringing up irrelevant issues. The fact remains that the Editorial column of PDI represents the views of the PDI Editorial Staff. Is that fact what you want to dispute?

It is not irrelevant .... ikaw ra ga ingon u are not sure how PDI procedures work because u dont work there but you are so sure about the "The fact remains that the Editorial column of PDI represents the views of the PDI Editorial Staff." .

If it were written by a single editor, WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PDI EDITORIAL BOARD TO REPRESENT THEM, then the article would have a byline, and by nature it would be called an opinion piece.

Why are u speaking in behalf of PDI when for a fact di ka sure sa procedure nila and u dont work there ? Unsa man diay to ang gi pos tna link nimo ? OPINION right ?

I know what an editorial is, unlike you (who thought that editorials should always have bylines). I posted the wikipedia definition to help you, since you're obviously clueless as to what an editorial is. I never said I knew everything about editors and media. But I do know more than you about what an editorial is.

LOLZ ... AD HOMINEM ..... tsk tsk tsk .... of course u knew about it kay nag research pa gud ka sa definition sa EDITORIALS . Then gi hapak lang niom nako .

I posted the link because it was (for me anyway) an excellent read, and may add to the topic at hand. As for you, since you seem to look down on people who get information and knowledge from other sources, it's not surprising that you are so uninformed.

Refer to the post above ..... analyze it then come back reply here . Of course isnt it degrading when you use someones alse CENTS ? If it was a report then FINE . Pero kung opinion sa lain na tao then kana .... that is not being POLITE na because u dont have any NETIQUETTE matod pa nimo . LOLZ !!

[jahmae]

i guess id rather stick to the topic here coz if we deeply analyze things it would take us a long discussion here since no single person/leader could be blamed for what our country is into right now considering our political culture, etc.

back to the pukot: both of them did their part in damaging the country's image, economy, generally our overall stability... but i guess arroyo did more damage since cya pa na man ang tinaguriang president with masters/phd in economics but then her "expertise" didnt do any good for the country at all.. tabla ra sa usa ka highschool drop out! waaaaaaa!!! and i guess life in the philippines couldnt get any worse now compared to the situations during the time of erap or the past presidents... how sad! saon na lng.. magminghoy nata ani ig christmas! Â*

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back to the pukot: both of them did their part in damaging the country's image, economy, generally our overall stability...

True and cannot be denied .... the better way to see it is a comparison and cause and effect system to really determined who did who .

but i guess arroyo did more damage since cya pa na man ang tinaguriang president with masters/phd in economics but then her "expertise" didnt do any good for the country at all..

Even a HS dropout can do what it is supposed to be done COMMONSENSE wise with the tandem of what we call TEAMWORK . How can u soar high when a weight is pulling u down ? OBSTACLES in laymans terms .

tabla ra sa usa ka highschool drop out! waaaaaaa!!! and i guess life in the philippines couldnt get any worse now compared to the situations during the time of erap or the past presidents... how sad! saon na lng.. magminghoy nata ani ig christmas!

Exactly .... if people will let her just do here thing .. then the next president can easily manage Philippines compared to her and so are the leaders before her because of cause and effect . As a scenario :

- kung walay bonus makuha , its maybe because walay trabaho obviously
- walay trabaho because wala mangita
- naay trabaho but 1 ka dosena na anak ang palitanan ug bag-ong sanina
- and so on and so forth hantod pila pa kaha na ka generations mo abot

Bottomline , mo apply gihapon na ang cause and effect .... na nagsugod pa sa kalolohan na ang leader sa nasod pa kay silang Magsaysay or Roxas o kinsa pa na . So therefore , dili basulon ang presidente , wether they did DAMAGE or NOT sa atong individual lives .... sa mubong istorya , dili ta angay magpaka PATRIOTIC kung mismo kita naglisod ug sugakod .

[Empress_Of_Drac]

I would still spare my all time favorite mommy Glo...it's ERAP...he got no brains...he cannot speak for his own opinions...he's dumb...he's the worsiest president ever...he Sucks big time...I hope he will be jailed for the rest of his life...(I don't want him to die...so that he will suffer forever!!!!!!!!!!)

[abay roduel]

For me its not ERAP or GMA, we have to blame ourselves. we started this trend or mentality. Even kids now know how to cheat. If your a FATHER or MOTHER, please re-evaluate your relationship with your kids. Have you guided them in the correct way as what Jesus Christ taught us?

Even in the Brgy. level, some of our leaders are corrupt. How much more in the National level of POLITICS.

It is important to teach our kids the right way now so that they will be good leaders in the next generation if we want to change our POLITICAL MENTALITY.

[kUrSh]

For me its not ERAP or GMA, we have to blame ourselves.Â* we started this trend or mentality.Â* Even kids now know how to cheat.Â* If your a FATHER or MOTHER, please re-evaluate your relationship with your kids.Â* Have you guided them in the correct way as what Jesus Christ taught us?

Even in the Brgy. level, some of our leaders are corrupt.Â* How much more in the National level of POLITICS.

It is important to teach our kids the right way now so that they will be good leaders in the next generation if we want to change our POLITICAL MENTALITY.

awwwww..so nice. yeah. it's not them--it's us. if we were given the chance to earn that much below the table, we'd do it anyway.

[FK]

if we were given the chance to earn that much below the table, we'd do it anyway.

that is if you are that corrupt...