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    No matter how they deny it, MLM as distinguished from traditional business slowly veers towards pyramiding.

    MLMers will deny this, but the moment they think of joining a certain MLM, they think of signing up all relatives and associates they can think of right now, especially when their upline tells them they can quickly gain their investment back if they have 2 or 5 people as their downline.

    Some will claim to sell directly, but mind you, direct selling is a last resort, when you can't sign up anyone anymore.

    Want to earn big? Don't sell. Recruit. The more recruits, the bigger your commission and the sooner you can fly to Disneyland. Sooner you'll be bumping into your own relative, recruiting your other relatives.

  2. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by ncmknight View Post
    No matter how they deny it, MLM as distinguished from traditional business slowly veers towards pyramiding.
    ayaw lang e generalize bro. dli tanan MLM = scam. and never jud mi ni use ug pyramiding.

    Quote Originally Posted by ncmknight View Post
    MLMers will deny this, but the moment they think of joining a certain MLM, they think of signing up all relatives and associates they can think of right now, especially when their upline tells them they can quickly gain their investment back if they have 2 or 5 people as their downline.

    Some will claim to sell directly, but mind you, direct selling is a last resort, when you can't sign up anyone anymore.

    Want to earn big? Don't sell. Recruit. The more recruits, the bigger your commission and the sooner you can fly to Disneyland. Sooner you'll be bumping into your own relative, recruiting your other relatives.
    actually, motivating downlines to do the job well is the best for MLM to a certain point to let him/her decide what to do next.

    rushing or forcing downlines - this is what you're talking about.
    Last edited by Gray_Fox; 09-29-2008 at 06:07 PM.

  3. #363
    "Motivating downlines" is an easier term for motivating others to recruit bro.

    No networker can tell anyone honestly he is focused on selling rather than recruiting.

    Herbalife may not admit it, but is there any other way to pay fat, virtually impossible commissions than to expand geometrically, at the bottom? Herbalife cannot claim it pays fat commissions based on sales because if it did, it would probably be 1/4 as popular as Coca Cola, Victoria's Secret, or even half as popular as our local Surf soap.

    Herbalife, as with any other MLM can only pay ridiculous commissions based on the ever increasing number of downlines. Kill the downline recruitment and you can't tell me honestly Herbalife will be able to sustain its commission.

    When anyone joins an MLM company, the first thought is to recruit your relatives and friends right? There's also reason to believe that somewhere in the house, hidden in a closet are products a member finds hard to sell. In fact some of them were given away as samples just to entice others to join. This is a fact. I have known a lot of MLM members, some of them from Herbalife, who have exactly these products in the house.

  4. #364
    the difference between Herbalife and Coca Cola is Herbalife is a wellness industry business. Distributors are needed in Herbalife not for what you say. one of the reasons is that Distributors are needed to instruct the product users on how to use the products.



    about popularity, Herbalife is very popular in some countries. you can see bilboards anywhere. here is a pic i got when we went to Thailand.




    the only problem in our country was that there were lots of Networking scams lately. but if you can research on Cebuano Distributors, some of them were farmers, jobless, janitors etc.. but now, they can wear Americana. lifestyles were change. farmers can only ride Kalabao or habal² but now they experienced riding airplanes, they are more energetic and healthier than before, etc... thats what you get in Herbalife.

  5. #365
    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    bro, those articles you say are not fakes but it doesn't fit why Herbalife is still standing and has 28 yrs. of experience of its business. it doesn't fit why there are lots of people who are still enjoying how effective the products are (as what you seen in those videos i posted). it doesn't fit why there are people earning on this business. (Work From Home - ive already met Arlene, Francis and Hayden) it doesn't fit why Herbalife can still sponsor LA Galaxy? not just LA Galaxy. you can research, there are more. care to explain them?

    the only explaination for you is... all the evidence is there but you just dont admit that Herbalife is legit.

    Money can buy everything? tell that face to face for those you think Herbalife illegally paid. i bet you'll be in jail in less than an hour.
    pag tsur dinha oi... now you admit... meaning, your just guesing or might just be saying false statements.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    about that Money Can Buy Everything of yours... maybe you just watch too much television. maybe about mafia or whatever. it doesn't work like that in this world. please check reality for once.
    at least WE watch television on news... maybe you watch only drama. or home made films with someone saying i used the product bla bla bla... check out the real world! not your own POV's


    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    the difference between Herbalife and Coca Cola is Herbalife is a wellness industry business. Distributors are needed in Herbalife not for what you say. one of the reasons is that Distributors are needed to instruct the product users on how to use the products.



    about popularity, Herbalife is very popular in some countries. you can see bilboards anywhere. here is a pic i got when we went to Thailand. .


    billboards dont mean popular. its ONLY advertisement! popularity means people already know about it WORLDWIDE, and is ACCEPTED worldwide, plus advertisement is just advertisement. your products are not popular!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    the only problem in our country was that there were lots of Networking scams lately. but if you can research on Cebuano Distributors, some of them were farmers, jobless, janitors etc.. but now, they can wear Americana. lifestyles were change. farmers can only ride Kalabao or habal² but now they experienced riding airplanes, they are more energetic and healthier than before, etc... thats what you get in Herbalife.

    that's why its generally said "networking = scam" because its the truth. its not product oriented, and will force people to sign in.

  6. #366
    Quote Originally Posted by ncmknight View Post
    "Motivating downlines" is an easier term for motivating others to recruit bro.

    No networker can tell anyone honestly he is focused on selling rather than recruiting.

    Herbalife may not admit it, but is there any other way to pay fat, virtually impossible commissions than to expand geometrically, at the bottom? Herbalife cannot claim it pays fat commissions based on sales because if it did, it would probably be 1/4 as popular as Coca Cola, Victoria's Secret, or even half as popular as our local Surf soap.

    Herbalife, as with any other MLM can only pay ridiculous commissions based on the ever increasing number of downlines. Kill the downline recruitment and you can't tell me honestly Herbalife will be able to sustain its commission.

    When anyone joins an MLM company, the first thought is to recruit your relatives and friends right? There's also reason to believe that somewhere in the house, hidden in a closet are products a member finds hard to sell. In fact some of them were given away as samples just to entice others to join. This is a fact. I have known a lot of MLM members, some of them from Herbalife, who have exactly these products in the house.
    PERFECTLY said!

  7. #367
    Quote Originally Posted by bugzbunny View Post
    pag tsur dinha oi... now you admit... meaning, your just guesing or might just be saying false statements.

    Quote Originally Posted by bugzbunny View Post
    billboards dont mean popular. its ONLY advertisement! popularity means people already know about it WORLDWIDE, and is ACCEPTED worldwide, plus advertisement is just advertisement. your products are not popular!
    wow.. i like the way you think. reminds me of a 4 year old retard. seriously, you're posts are getting ridiculous. how can you make advertisment if you dont have money?

    well.. you did admit that money can buy anything. where did Herbalife get its money if its not from the sales of the products? from magicians or leprechauns w/ pot of gold?? i dont know about you but i'm too mature to think of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by bugzbunny View Post
    that's why its generally said "networking = scam" because its the truth. its not product oriented, and will force people to sign in.
    have you paying attention to what i said? Herbalife is NOT networking. its a NETWORK MARKETING. too stuborn huh?
    Last edited by Gray_Fox; 09-29-2008 at 11:26 PM.

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  9. #369
    FYI for all: MLM, Networking (business pasabot), Network marketing, etc are all the same. ngalan lang ang giusab to hide the truth that they follow the trendy SCAM.

    Natasha, Avon, Dakki, and others i forgot to mention always admit that they are also into networking business, and they are not SCAM as this is widely accepted by consumers. One way of saying: they never even forced themselves to sell their products. sigh...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    wow.. i like the way you think. reminds me of a 4 year old retard. seriously, you're posts are getting ridiculous. how can you make advertisment if you dont have money?

    well.. you did admit that money can buy anything. where did Herbalife get its money if its not from the sales of the products? from magicians or leprechauns w/ pot of gold?? i dont know about you but i'm too mature to think of those.
    not a sensible answer bro.


    Quote Originally Posted by ncmknight View Post
    "Motivating downlines" is an easier term for motivating others to recruit bro.

    No networker can tell anyone honestly he is focused on selling rather than recruiting.

    Herbalife may not admit it, but is there any other way to pay fat, virtually impossible commissions than to expand geometrically, at the bottom? Herbalife cannot claim it pays fat commissions based on sales because if it did, it would probably be 1/4 as popular as Coca Cola, Victoria's Secret, or even half as popular as our local Surf soap.

    Herbalife, as with any other MLM can only pay ridiculous commissions based on the ever increasing number of downlines. Kill the downline recruitment and you can't tell me honestly Herbalife will be able to sustain its commission.

    When anyone joins an MLM company, the first thought is to recruit your relatives and friends right? There's also reason to believe that somewhere in the house, hidden in a closet are products a member finds hard to sell. In fact some of them were given away as samples just to entice others to join. This is a fact. I have known a lot of MLM members, some of them from Herbalife, who have exactly these products in the house.
    i give my vote to this.


    OT: i've heard, that 1 cup rice and a fish is quite effective to loose weight. this has been proven to many people as this was quoted by a friend of mine who also has done this. this is a good example not to purchase dietary programs/supplements.

  10. #370
    Quote Originally Posted by darkdruid View Post
    FYI for all: MLM, Networking (business pasabot), Network marketing, etc are all the same. ngalan lang ang giusab to hide the truth that they follow the trendy SCAM.
    Herbalife is a Network Marketing that reached 28 yrs. of experience. scam business that reach 28 yrs.? hmm... since this company is originated at U.S., are you saying that Americans are stupid enough not to realize that one of their biggest company is a scammer? pretty lame if you ask me.

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