BEWARE OF PYRAMID SCHEMES posing as a legitimate MLM

[bugzbunny]

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I was thinking you'd sell me the product, but instead you're inviting me to a business opportunity. It kind of worsens the reputation of MLM bro.

Herbalife is nowhere near Coca-Cola. Herbalife is not product oriented. It is distributorship oriented.

Instead of selling the product, you're selling the business... your statement definitely didn't help.

As for the AT & T issue, I'm still searching for an article and found none.

Reminds me of Juvio that used Mel Gibson.

correct. these so called mlm/network marketing business are using names to sell its products. asside from using names they now pay them to use their names. even to the point nga dili na tinuod ang stories... ang gi bayaran, hilom lang sad kay kwarta man. hehe.

a lot innocent people have been used by these leaders of mlm. so sad...

brad. simple lang akong masulti sa imong reply nila.

1) about sa imong gisulti nga Network Marketing mo: if mag "RESEARCH lang ka" MLM gihapon na or NETWORKING gihapon na cya. - don't be close minded just because its what philippines HERBALIFE told you.

2) about sa publicity stuff (like LA Galaxy, etc) ...
a) they are paid publicity.
b) pila ra man pag sul-ob sa logo bah? -- it does'nt mean anything "GOOD"
c) about sa gathering and stuff nga KUNUHAY naa ka? what about it? there's no significance for it to us?

3) about sa youtube publicity. of course, its a free video... what's to it? anyone can post their videos.

4) about the articles. you can say its a false statement. from who? HERBALIFE leaders / manufacturer. what if ikaw ang naigo ato, nya ingnon lang ug "false statements" kay ang uban okay ra...
- dude, that's why MLM wont succeed because of HEARTLESS people in it!
- these MLM'rs are just up for the grab of MONEY for THEMSELVES.
- if a person wont succeed, then they just tell them its their fault and leave... what a heartless LOSERS!

5) about sa BFAD/international laws, and other laws.
- i guess everybody knows what money can BUY!
- of the products nga pwerting mahala pagka-baligya. dali ra kaayo magpalabel. even if you ask people from the government itself!

6) about sa offer or invitation ra daw... (Gray_Fox: dont get me wrong. im not inviting you because i want you in our company)
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because we like your company.
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because your company is one of those companies with the same sense of products.
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because your company is that good, as what your company say they are.

7) ikaw nalang research ani kay kapoy ug spoonfeed nimo. Herbalife's late president did not die a simple death... naay mga evidences nga gitagoan.
- this is for publicity sake
- aron ang dungog sa mga taw nindot gihapon.
- etc...etc... etc...

about sa "selling like hot pancakes"
- just like hot pancakes, naa pud uban maglain ang tiyan inig kaon. hehe.

Note: i believe you'll be replying me with vedeos, or maybe incorrect info.. etc... etc... so please have an original reply not from herbalife tuturials.


So far as to my experience:
maayo pa ang DAKKI, kay ang mga taw ang mangita. dili parehas sa herbalife nga bakakan pa dyud ko. ingnon dayon nga ako ang sayop... sus mayrosep! gamahalmahal lang ko.

way straight to the point! hehe. if they claim their products to be that good, then people will just look for them. what happened in herbalife is quite different, they will force themselves to people that their product is good. too bad.

[Gray_Fox]

brad. simple lang akong masulti sa imong reply nila.

1) about sa imong gisulti nga Network Marketing mo: if mag "RESEARCH lang ka" MLM gihapon na or NETWORKING gihapon na cya. - don't be close minded just because its what philippines HERBALIFE told you.

in your point of view, whatever Herbalife is... the fact remains that Herbalife is Legit . thats what I'm trying to prove on this thread.

2) about sa publicity stuff (like LA Galaxy, etc) ...
a) they are paid publicity.
b) pila ra man pag sul-ob sa logo bah? -- it does'nt mean anything "GOOD"
c) about sa gathering and stuff nga KUNUHAY naa ka? what about it? there's no significance for it to us?

if you are the owner of LA Galaxy, will you let Herbalife sponsor LA Galaxy if the products are not as good as what the Herbalife company says?

by saying this post, mura man hinuon ka ug gi bogo-an sa mga tag-iya sa LA Galaxy ug kwarta ra ilang gi apas.

lastly, (para sad ni sa tubag ni BugzBunny) if the products is not good (junk foods daw ingon c BugzBunny) and low ang sales sa products , asa man kuha ug kwarta ang Herbalife para mo sponsor sa LA Galaxy?

3) about sa youtube publicity. of course, its a free video... what's to it? anyone can post their videos.

its perfectly clear on that video that those numbers of people are enjoying Herbalife. thats what im after. im not after the free video thingie.

4) about the articles. you can say its a false statement. from who? HERBALIFE leaders / manufacturer. what if ikaw ang naigo ato, nya ingnon lang ug "false statements" kay ang uban okay ra...
- dude, that's why MLM wont succeed because of HEARTLESS people in it!
- these MLM'rs are just up for the grab of MONEY for THEMSELVES.
- if a person wont succeed, then they just tell them its their fault and leave... what a heartless LOSERS!

we never thought of it. ask those who used the products. all those who were poor on their health, they gain it back. some use the products to lose or gain weight, they got what they wanted.

unless you dont do your job well, then thats another story. not just in Herbalife. but even if you're working else where.

Heartless losers? we have trainings every Saturday for newbies and for those who are slow learners. its for free of course.

5) about sa BFAD/international laws, and other laws.
- i guess everybody knows what money can BUY!
- of the products nga pwerting mahala pagka-baligya. dali ra kaayo magpalabel. even if you ask people from the government itself!

BFAD may be bought. but you can never bought the international laws.

6) about sa offer or invitation ra daw... (Gray_Fox: dont get me wrong. im not inviting you because i want you in our company)
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because we like your company.
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because your company is one of those companies with the same sense of products.
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because your company is that good, as what your company say they are.

thats the policy of Herbalife. we dont show everything unless you are a member. its all the same with other companies. not just in Network Marketing Business.

7) ikaw nalang research ani kay kapoy ug spoonfeed nimo. Herbalife's late president did not die a simple death... naay mga evidences nga gitagoan.
- this is for publicity sake
- aron ang dungog sa mga taw nindot gihapon.
- etc...etc... etc...

everyone deserves a privacy on their lives. how bout u? dont you have some secrets in you that you don't want to tell a single soul?

about sa "selling like hot pancakes"
- just like hot pancakes, naa pud uban maglain ang tiyan inig kaon. hehe.

you're right but we never heard anyone who continuously used the products and complained about their health.

Note: i believe you'll be replying me with vedeos, or maybe incorrect info.. etc... etc... so please have an original reply not from herbalife tuturials.

no need. everything on those videos that you need to know about legitimacy and consumers are there. those are my proof that Herbalife is growing til now.

So far as to my experience:
maayo pa ang DAKKI, kay ang mga taw ang mangita. dili parehas sa herbalife nga bakakan pa dyud ko. ingnon dayon nga ako ang sayop... sus mayrosep! gamahalmahal lang ko.

kung mangatik mi bro, mahadlok cguro mi ma revoke among license sa? dli pa lang mi mkalarga ug balik outside Philippines. hehe. mao jud ni ang one of the main reason nganong ganahan ko ani nga company.

[bugzbunny]

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in your point of view, whatever Herbalife is... the fact remains that Herbalife is Legit . thats what I'm trying to prove on this thread.

but you were also stating in previous post that makes it troublesome. hehe.

BFAD may be bought. but you can never bought the international laws.

i guess if you may read it back on darkdruid's post, which is also means, money can buy anything. Even on international laws my friend, naa pud na anumaliya. dili lang kay pinas lang.

everyone deserves a privacy on their lives. how bout u? dont you have some secrets in you that you don't want to tell a single soul?

a simple reply to get out? hehe.

[Gray_Fox]

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but you were also stating in previous post that makes it troublesome. hehe.




i guess if you may read it back on darkdruid's post, which is also means, money can buy anything. Even on international laws my friend, naa pud na anumaliya. dili lang kay pinas lang.



a simple reply to get out? hehe.

inspite those fake articles and yet Herbalife is still standing. how can you explain that?

and you only quoted those things that you can messed up with me. how bout the LA Galaxy? care to quote and explain it? is LA Galaxy fake too? are they junk foods too? if you cant, how bout you get out?

[bugzbunny]

They are not fake articles my friend. naa man gani to names if you would read them right. names are crucial, though herbalife networkers are just close minded. just like you... you have been spoonfeed by articles, rather than letting you know my neighbors POV, and specially mine.

As long as people will be blinded of the truth that they are taking junk food, and supliments... it will always go, coz every product cost too much compared to the real market. "jacked up prices" as ncmknight stated.

you said on the previous post nga bogo ko. and ako ra ang nagsulti nga bati ang imong "gisudlan" nga negosyo... well, at least na proove pud nako that you were just saying it because i was right... "buta bungol dyud ang mga taw inside". proof? gi spoon fed na tika ug articles and all you ONLY say is "it was a fake" --- too bad for you. hypnotized by greed of the said business \and greed was also stated on the articles... which proves that those articles were heartily written to inform the public.

as more and more people experienced, like darkdruid stated: he tried the product, and did not work. and you ONLY said, it was his fault. wow.... genius strategy of your NETWORKING business.

may it be networking, MLM, Pyramidding, network marketing... its still a scam!

just like cigaretes and alchohol: ngano ni exist mana cya worldwide when everyone knows its not good (to the fact nga daghan namatay)... simple. as what darkdruid would like to say: "MONEY CAN BUY ANYTHING". common sense ra man na... we need not to attend any orientation about it.

[Gray_Fox]

bro, those articles you say are not fakes but it doesn't fit why Herbalife is still standing and has 28 yrs. of experience of its business. it doesn't fit why there are lots of people who are still enjoying how effective the products are (as what you seen in those videos i posted). it doesn't fit why there are people earning on this business. (Work From Home - ive already met Arlene, Francis and Hayden) it doesn't fit why Herbalife can still sponsor LA Galaxy? not just LA Galaxy. you can research, there are more. care to explain them?

the only explaination for you is... all the evidence is there but you just dont admit that Herbalife is legit.

Money can buy everything? tell that face to face for those you think Herbalife illegally paid. i bet you'll be in jail in less than an hour.

[Gray_Fox]

about that Money Can Buy Everything of yours... maybe you just watch too much television. maybe about mafia or whatever. it doesn't work like that in this world. please check reality for once.

[jonz]

@grayfox
dili na binary inu system bai? ok rna bsta dili binary kanag paris2x......... mao ny binuang hehehe

[Gray_Fox]

wala mi anang pyramid² thingie or kanang paris² bro.

[Ryze]

For me, I don't think multi-level marketing is a scam. It makes it a scam if the product sold is not worth it and the money-making scheme is purely based on referrals. I have a share of those and it frustrates me remembering those experiences.

Multi-level marketing is one way of promoting the product to the general public. Similar to high-priced medicines sold at pharmacies because pharmaceuticals are spending billions of dollars in advertisements and in their own marketing schemes (treat doctors to luxurious vacation packages and freebies etc... in order to recommend their products to their patient).

Although, sad to say, the marketing scheme was tainted by greedy folks who doesn't researched the product well and unfortunately pushing people to sign-up in order for them to get their investments back and probably earn some more from those naive Juans.

MLM is practiced in almost every business and I would always promote it. Because why, it gives every people a chance to earn more for their hard work and develops themselves to become leaders. Per say, some shy people who are into MLM are now confident of themselves and has the discipline and training of thought to acquire and attract wealth.

But human is human, some motives are pure while some are because of greed. Some buy the product because of stupidity and false promises and if their investment doesn't work, they don't learn from it but rather blame every other person who's into MLM.

I'd like to promote MLM but with my experiences I am more aware and careful of the MLMs that I want to involve myself into. I want to make sure that the company is legit and at the same time the product is worth every penny and not because of the commissions that you will get for referrals. Study and research the product well before you involve yourself into it. Listen to testimonials of those people who bought and didn't bought the product. Listen what made them make those choices and reflect yourself upon those decision. Everyone has their opinions basing on their needs and wants in life.

I'd say MLM is good but you may want to ponder on these questions before you want to join in any of these companies.
Is the product worth it?
Do I really need it at this moment of time? Do I have the money to make the purchase?
Can I proudly refer / sell the product to my family, friends and business contacts without having a feeling of greed, guilt or fear? If no, why am I feeling this way?
What do other people say about this company / product? Listen to the pros and cons and relate yourself to their situation.
Am I willing to take risks? What are the benefits that I can get from these experience?
Do I have the time to do marketing? Is it my style?

There is no easy way or shortcuts to becoming rich. It's just a matter of focus, discipline, hard work and making sound decisions that you think you have something to learn from it.

Don't force yourself into something that you're going to be regretting later on.

This is just my opinion.