Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan

[maynardmurlon]

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Still, the Green Man wins in our hearts. Go KG!

[The Good$!!!]

Kevin Garnett is one of the best to ever play in his position and a talent that is undeniable the fact that he has won all the awards possible...

His all around play and consistent 20-10 output is one of the most reliable numbers in the league and I was very very happy not only for him but also for Paul and Ray that they FINALLY won it all this year and he now has a title under his belt...

I don't deny the fact that his charismatic and spirited play is very entertaining and the way he pumps his chest and taunts his defenders everytime he makes a great play plus that energy he feeds to the fans...

Commonsense just tells you when you base it all to cold hard facts on their stat sheets and accomplishments that Tim Duncan is indeed better than Garnett... Always has... Always will...

Career Numbers

TD: 21.8 PPG, 11.9 RPG, 3.2 APG, 2.5 BPG, 50.9 FG%
KG: 20.5 PPG, 11.4 RPG, 4.5 APG, 1.7 BPG, 49.0 FG%

So yeah, with the exception of ONE CATEGORY, Duncan has Garnett beat across the board. The numbers ain't "completely blind

4 rings to 1, 2 MVPs to 1, 3 Finals MVP to none... If you don't base it on that then what? FLASHINESS

Yeah yelling like you are in mid-orgasm every time you dunk the ball is very flashy.

To cut it short: Garnett is so much "les intelligent" than Tim Duncan that his edge in sheer physical giftedness is overwhelmed

FOUR Championship Rings.... End of Story...

[vanguard]

The starting argument was about Tim Duncan had the better teammates. And if you push stats as a basis, then ponder this, Kevin Garnett jumped out of high school while Tim Duncan played 4 full years at Wake Forest. Duncan was more ready than Garnett for the NBA when they entered the league, thus, explains the discrepancy of the stats.

Dated May 22, 2007:

Basically the greatest tragedy of Garnett's career might be the fact that no coach has forced him to commit to the low post. Watch film of Garnett (not you tube, because all they have are dunks on there) and you'll quickly find out what I mean about him on the low block. He's an absolute beast down there. I mean, he has the footwork, the length, the strength, and the athleticism to kill anyone on the mid to low block. Plus one of the best post players of all-time (Kevin McHale) taught him a whole slew of post moves.

Sources: FanHouse
Kevin Garnett vs. Tim Duncan - SpursTalk.com - Forums

And for a newer one (May 8, 200:

Kevin Garnett is a better leader. His intensity and passion are contagious and he is one of the hardest workers in the NBA. Duncan is a good-but-not-great player blessed by circumstance, Garnett would have won four or more rings on San Antonio. KG led several bad teams to the playoffs, after all.

Or…

Tim Duncan has won four championships for a reason. He does everything well and doesn’t take anything off the table, making him easier to build around. Garnett doesn’t want the crunch time shot and his leadership style isn’t suitable for all teams. Duncan is the greatest power forward ever.

Source: Hoops Addict Blog Archive Duncan vs. Garnett

See now my point about Duncan having the better teammates and management? Both plays an integral part as to how greatness should be defined or who's better between these two players.

[The Good$!!!]

That's the advantage of playing in college and not directly jumping to the PROs...

4 years of playing in Wake Forest gave Duncan that valuable maturity that took Garnett a LOT of years to finally realize that it lacks in his game... Garnett lacked the polish that Duncan has as a result of jumping directly to the NBA is his damn problem... Duncan has the smarts to play in College and hone in on his game...

"And if you push stats as a basis, then ponder this, Kevin Garnett jumped out of high school while Tim Duncan played 4 full years at Wake Forest. Duncan was more ready than Garnett for the NBA when they entered the league, thus, explains the discrepancy of the stats."

If you look at it that way then the mere fact that Duncan was drafted 2 season behind Garnett, he would have better career averages than Duncan... LOL... Again, Garnett's problem why he didn't play in college...^^



And your article: "Basically the greatest tragedy of Garnett's career might be the fact that no coach has forced him to commit to the low post. Watch film of Garnett (not you tube, because all they have are dunks on there) and you'll quickly find out what I mean about him on the low block. He's an absolute beast down there. I mean, he has the footwork, the length, the strength, and the athleticism to kill anyone on the mid to low block. Plus one of the best post players of all-time (Kevin McHale) taught him a whole slew of post moves."

That's Garnett's problem for chrissake... That's what makes Duncan way better than him... If you read that article again, it still concludes on Duncan being better than Garnett...

"Kevin Garnett is a better leader. His intensity and passion are contagious and he is one of the hardest workers in the NBA. Duncan is a good-but-not-great player blessed by circumstance, Garnett would have won four or more rings on San Antonio. KG led several bad teams to the playoffs, after all."

Better leader my a**... If he is that of a leader then why the hell did the Wolvesmiss the playoffs in 3 consecutive seasons and why Sam and Spree chose to leave Minnesota... "Duncan is a good-but-not-great player blessed by circumstance" is the biggest piece of bull I had read recently... Geez...

Garnett winning if he was in San Antonio Sounds ridiculously ludicrous with Garnett's "leadership" ability... I think Manu and Tony would have left the Spurs a long time ago...

Heck, in Boston it was Paul Pierce who took the big shots for Boston not Garnett...

"Tim Duncan has won four championships for a reason. He does everything well and doesn’t take anything off the table, making him easier to build around. Garnett doesn’t want the crunch time shot and his leadership style isn’t suitable for all teams. Duncan is the greatest power forward ever."

This proves what I had been yapping about...
I think I had pointed this out on my previous posts...

"Tim duncan may not have won 4 rings, but the Twolves would NOT have missed the playoffs 3 consecutives years.

KG is a scrub compared to Tim when it comes to leadership and clutch. KG always defers to teammates when the game is on the line - even now, Paul Pierce is the one with the ball when the clock runs down."


I think you missed this on your article:

"Yes things could have been helped for Garnett if he had better teammates (even though, in my opinion, his teammates aren't really as bad as they are made out to be). But believe me, there's no way a player as dynamic as Garnett should have missed the playoffs three years in a row. All that tells me is that he is not putting his stamp on games in an efficient manner."

"See now my point about Duncan having the better teammates and management? Both plays an integral part as to how greatness should be defined or who's better between these two players."

See now, GREATNESS and LEADERSHIP (Shaq, Magic, Jordan, Hakeem, Bird, Duncan) also defines how you make your TEAMMATES BETTER... Beh-Thuurr... Great players' "mojo" rubs off on their teammates you see... Same friggin' way Jordan rubbed it on Pipp and Shaq rubbed it on "The Rapist"...^^


Kevin Garnett vs. Tim
Duncan - Page 4 - SpursTalk.com - Forums

[The Good$!!!]

Oh yeah and this:

"And for a newer one (May 8, 200:

Kevin Garnett is a better leader. His intensity and passion are contagious and he is one of the hardest workers in the NBA. Duncan is a good-but-not-great player blessed by circumstance, Garnett would have won four or more rings on San Antonio. KG led several bad teams to the playoffs, after all."

That article from a biased Garnett fanboy I presume, is plain stupid from the mere fact that it stated :
Garnett would have won four or more rings on San Antonio. KG led "SEVERAL BAD TEAMS" to the playoffs, after all." He seriously needs to get his facts straight before he yaps B.S. like that...^^

Not to mention Tackielarla being a Wolves fan! LOL!^^

I think he was only playing in Minnesota prior to Boston and NOT SEVERAL TEAMS... And his teammates were "NOT REALLY AS BAD AS THEY ARE MADE OUT TO BE"...

Again, if Garnett was on San Antonio I guess Tony and Manu would have left the Spurs and San Antonio would miss the playoffs on consecutive seasons...

Imagine if Gugliotta, Marbury, Sprewell or Sam Cassell would have the oppurtunity to be playing alongside Tim Duncan... Boy, the Wolves would have a Championship banner by now...

I seriously think a "SHAQ vs. DUNCAN" Thread would be more interesting since this comparison is a no contest... No contest at all how you look at it from all angles...^^

[LBJ888]

Tim duncan is better because mas complete iya game. It shows how many championships the spurs win with him. This year, maybe garnett was the better player. but for there whole careers, i think it is a no brainer. Tim Duncan is now considered to be the best ever power forward to play the game.

[tackielarla]

Not to mention Tackielarla being a Wolves fan! LOL!^^

Wakekekeke

It will be a sad day indeed the time Duncan hangs his sleeves...

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It's as simple as this. If Garnett was the one playing for the Spurs and Duncan for the Timberwolves then people would be all praises for Garnett. Again, and I guess this badly needs some emphasis, San Antonio's management and team as a whole is way better Minnesota's.

[tackielarla]

If Garnett was the one playing for the Spurs and Duncan for the Timberwolves then people would be all praises for Garnett.

An assumption with no basis whatsoever (and holds no water, by the way). You will never know what would happen if that actually occurred. Plainly accept the facts as it is. Four rings for Duncan - one for Garnett. Besides, it wasn't SA (Pop and management) who collected all those stats for Duncan.

[vanguard]

And it's also a fact that San Antonio is the better team and has surrounded Duncan with better teammates than Garnett in Minnesota. I'm not here to argue about the stats, I'm here to pinpoint that Duncan had the better teammates and played under the better management, one fact that most people have overlooked. Did any team under a bad management win an NBA title? I guess none, so that partially explains the 4 titles.