BEWARE OF PYRAMID SCHEMES posing as a legitimate MLM

[vanguard]

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A hard fact, MLM is not for everyone. Everybody should accept it.

[Gray_Fox]

Unfortunately, there isn't any info about AT & T copying Herbalife's marketing plan. I suppose it's another hype job of Herbalife.

And have you verified your claim with your La Sallite and Atenean friends? Have they said Herbalife is their model for their network marketing curriculum?

like i said.. im not here to discuss about the marketing scheme of herbalife coz i may be offtopic if i do. if anyone wants to join the company then you are more than welcome to see the entire Herbalife marketing scheme.

for now to be on topic what im trying to prove are the following....

1.) products are effective as what i said

2.) Herbalife is a very legit business

3.) Herbaife is still growing til today.

and those videos proved it.

[ncmknight]

That's because your quote is misleading bro. Quoting AT & T as a copycat is a big big blunder.

I'm not questioning the legitimacy of Herbalife. I'm questioning the system.

Tell me if this is true in your case:

Can you generate repeat sales? Not an endless cycle of distributors and members but repeat sales, the same way Coca-Cola, Victoria's Secret, the native shells in Carbon and the brooms and dustpans being sold by peddlers in the streets generate?

[jonz]

A hard fact, MLM is not for everyone. Everybody should accept it.

very well said

its a choice

[Gray_Fox]

That's because your quote is misleading bro. Quoting AT & T as a copycat is a big big blunder.

err.. you prolly misunderstand... AT & T are not copycats. they bought the rights.

I'm not questioning the legitimacy of Herbalife. I'm questioning the system.

well.. thats the topic of this thread is all about right? its about the legitimacy of MLM and i just proved that Herbalife is a legit one. if you want more about Herbalife, you can join our business opportunity meeting.

Can you generate repeat sales? Not an endless cycle of distributors and members but repeat sales, the same way Coca-Cola, Victoria's Secret, the native shells in Carbon and the brooms and dustpans being sold by peddlers in the streets generate?

of course. Herbalife products are like Coca-Cola, Victoria's Secret, etc... they are consumable products. honestly, im not good at recruiting people but im good at selling the products. most of them are satisfied and wants discounts thats why they want to join.

[ncmknight]

I was thinking you'd sell me the product, but instead you're inviting me to a business opportunity. It kind of worsens the reputation of MLM bro.

Herbalife is nowhere near Coca-Cola. Herbalife is not product oriented. It is distributorship oriented.

Instead of selling the product, you're selling the business... your statement definitely didn't help.

As for the AT & T issue, I'm still searching for an article and found none.

Reminds me of Juvio that used Mel Gibson.

[bugzbunny]

Title: Herbalife Distributor Sues 'Up-Line Distributor' for Selling Dangerous Products in...

taken from article: "Although I would argue that Herbalife distributors should have 'red
flagged' the potential dangers inherent in the products they were selling
after two independent, peer reviewed, medical journals linked the company's
most popular products to severe liver damage; recent publicity surrounding
lead levels in Herbalife products exceeding those allowed under California law
without a warning label (Prop 65) virtually eliminates the potential for the
'I did not know these products were dangerous' defense as these lead issues
have been widely covered by the media" Mr. Grell added.

link: Herbalife Distributor Sues 'Up-Line Distributor' for Selling Dangerous Products in... | Reuters

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@Gray_Fox: answer from your previous reply: as i said on my previous posts... mlmers have a way of "buta bungol"... i just hope your not one of the examples.
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naa pa gani lain site : "Catherine Tyson's death while using Herbalife" ... naa lang service fee if mo ask ka sa video...

here's the link: Herbalife Scam (Part II) ABC News broadcast from the Vanderbilt Television News Archive

i believe naa dyud ka masulti ani... coz that's part of marketing strategy of MLM with Herbalife.

[leo_trams]

kadto sa una nga kusog pa ang FLP, daghan gyud moingon nga epektibo ila produkto.
Puerteng daghana sa testimonies nga epektib gyud.

Ako kaila sa west visayas, daku man gyud to sila nga distributor sa FLP...wa gyud intawon madala sa FLP products iya health condition. At first ok ra to siya, looks healthy, active kaayo, sige inom sa mga product sa FLP. Pero sa dihang niniwang siya ug kalit unya luyahon na, nag pa check sa mga doctor.
Naa siya diabetes, ahhh..maayo ra na sa FLP products...continue gihapon inom.
Nag ka grabe na man hinuon, until hospital na gyud siya nag puyo. Then ni complicate sa iyang uban vital organs (liver, heart), ahh FLP ra lagi maka ayo ana, sige lang gihapon inom..tsk tsk tsk. nabugtu-an gyud ug kinabuhi...around 50++ yrs old.

@Gray_Fox
I assume nag patronize gyud ka sa imo producto. Just like my kaila.
How old are you now?
Let's find out 10years from now or inig patong nimo sa age of 55 tan-awon nato imo health condition if you really are drinking/eating Herbalife products.
Post unya balik dinhi bro ha.
Maayo unta ug buhi pa pud ni nga forum. hehehe

Pero murag wala na man ko kadungog ani FLP karon. Nihinay sila? Kay ngano? Dili diay to tinuod ila mga gisulti nga epektibo ila produkto?

Twenty years from now, maayo unta ug mo declare ang FDA or BFAD nga Herbalife is not a food supplement but a drug or wonder drug. Unya tatakan dayon nila ug "APPROVED THERAPEUTIC CLAIMS".
hehehe

Happy Networking bro.
Maayo unta ug daghan ang OPEN MIND para daghan ka ug ma recruit nga distributor...unsa kahay mahitabo sa LAST nga OPEN MINDED nga distributor no? Kinsa kaha ang iya ma recruit nga siya na gud ang PINAKA LAST nga OPEN MINDED nga human? hehehe

[Gray_Fox]

I was thinking you'd sell me the product, but instead you're inviting me to a business opportunity. It kind of worsens the reputation of MLM bro.

sorry bro. there's nothing i can do but if you want to know everything, then you have to join our business opportunity meeting and ask the distributors face to face.

and dont get me wrong. im not inviting you because i want you in our company.

Herbalife is nowhere near Coca-Cola.

1.) Herbalife cant afford to sponsor LA Galaxy if the products are not good. but David Beckham is still wearing his jersey that has "Herbalife" makings in front of him.

2.) you should know... wellness industry is rising as it was predicted that in 2010, wellness industry will become the next trend and will surpass the computer sales. have you realized that Coca Cola have Coke Zero now? have you realized that there's a mineral water manufactured by Coca Cola? thats evidence enough that they're flowing the trend of wellness industry.

Herbalife is not product oriented. It is distributorship oriented.

of course, unlike coca cola, customers need to know all the instructions before using the products or else it wont work. thats the reason why you don't see Herbalife products in the stores. but both are the same in sales. their products are consumables and are selling like hot pancakes.

Title: Herbalife Distributor Sues 'Up-Line Distributor' for Selling Dangerous Products in...

taken from article: "Although I would argue that Herbalife distributors should have 'red
flagged' the potential dangers inherent in the products they were selling
after two independent, peer reviewed, medical journals linked the company's
most popular products to severe liver damage; recent publicity surrounding
lead levels in Herbalife products exceeding those allowed under California law
without a warning label (Prop 65) virtually eliminates the potential for the
'I did not know these products were dangerous' defense as these lead issues
have been widely covered by the media" Mr. Grell added.

link: Herbalife Distributor Sues 'Up-Line Distributor' for Selling Dangerous Products in... | Reuters

...........
@Gray_Fox: answer from your previous reply: as i said on my previous posts... mlmers have a way of "buta bungol"... i just hope your not one of the examples.
...........

naa pa gani lain site : "Catherine Tyson's death while using Herbalife" ... naa lang service fee if mo ask ka sa video...

here's the link: Herbalife Scam (Part II) ABC News broadcast from the Vanderbilt Television News Archive

i believe naa dyud ka masulti ani... coz that's part of marketing strategy of MLM with Herbalife.

obviously, these articles are fakes. there are lots of people using the products around in 66 countries and with 80 million satisfied customers. those 80 million would have died if these articles were true. LA Galaxy wont use Herbalife as its sponsor, the company wont survive if it were true. but look at Herbalife now. its celebrating its 28 yrs. of experience.

imong gi research is bikil sa herbalife. sorry but wala jud ka makit-an nga bikil. ang company perti ka dako and those articles cant support. especially if they are just in a freebie websites.

if you have seen those videos i posted, then those people would have been dead by now including me.

kung magpa buta bungol sad ka about sa videos ug about sa LA Galaxy, wa nko mabuhat ana. imoha nsad nah. dako kaau nah nga mga evidence kaysa imong articles nga walay proof.

@Gray_Fox
I assume nag patronize gyud ka sa imo producto. Just like my kaila.
How old are you now?
Let's find out 10years from now or inig patong nimo sa age of 55 tan-awon nato imo health condition if you really are drinking/eating Herbalife products.
Post unya balik dinhi bro ha.
Maayo unta ug buhi pa pud ni nga forum. hehehe

Pero murag wala na man ko kadungog ani FLP karon. Nihinay sila? Kay ngano? Dili diay to tinuod ila mga gisulti nga epektibo ila produkto?

Twenty years from now, maayo unta ug mo declare ang FDA or BFAD nga Herbalife is not a food supplement but a drug or wonder drug. Unya tatakan dayon nila ug "APPROVED THERAPEUTIC CLAIMS".
hehehe

Happy Networking bro.
Maayo unta ug daghan ang OPEN MIND para daghan ka ug ma recruit nga distributor...unsa kahay mahitabo sa LAST nga OPEN MINDED nga distributor no? Kinsa kaha ang iya ma recruit nga siya na gud ang PINAKA LAST nga OPEN MINDED nga human? hehehe

watch these videos and you'll find your answer in 10 or 20 years.

YouTube - Herbalife: The Facts (Not The Fiction)

this video will answer the questions about how effective the products are

YouTube - Herbalife Diet

YouTube - Herbalife weight loss record 1998 (-402 lbs)/19 months

this video will tell you how many people are using the products from 2005. of course this is an Network Marketing business so expect more people today.

YouTube - Herbalife

about your friend, are you sure it was Herbalife that she was taking? coz our top distributor here in Cebu has already 11 yrs. of experience about the business and still using the products and he's still healthy.


about BFAD, i know lots of people wont believe them now.. but Hebalife products passed the Mega Dosage Law and the Labelling Law. these are an international laws.

[darkdruid]

brad. simple lang akong masulti sa imong reply nila.

1) about sa imong gisulti nga Network Marketing mo: if mag "RESEARCH lang ka" MLM gihapon na or NETWORKING gihapon na cya. - don't be close minded just because its what philippines HERBALIFE told you.

2) about sa publicity stuff (like LA Galaxy, etc) ...
a) they are paid publicity.
b) pila ra man pag sul-ob sa logo bah? -- it does'nt mean anything "GOOD"
c) about sa gathering and stuff nga KUNUHAY naa ka? what about it? there's no significance for it to us?

3) about sa youtube publicity. of course, its a free video... what's to it? anyone can post their videos.

4) about the articles. you can say its a false statement. from who? HERBALIFE leaders / manufacturer. what if ikaw ang naigo ato, nya ingnon lang ug "false statements" kay ang uban okay ra...
- dude, that's why MLM wont succeed because of HEARTLESS people in it!
- these MLM'rs are just up for the grab of MONEY for THEMSELVES.
- if a person wont succeed, then they just tell them its their fault and leave... what a heartless LOSERS!

5) about sa BFAD/international laws, and other laws.
- i guess everybody knows what money can BUY!
- of the products nga pwerting mahala pagka-baligya. dali ra kaayo magpalabel. even if you ask people from the government itself!

6) about sa offer or invitation ra daw... (Gray_Fox: dont get me wrong. im not inviting you because i want you in our company)
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because we like your company.
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because your company is one of those companies with the same sense of products.
- likewise ra sa pagsulti namo: dont get me wrong. im not telling you because your company is that good, as what your company say they are.

7) ikaw nalang research ani kay kapoy ug spoonfeed nimo. Herbalife's late president did not die a simple death... naay mga evidences nga gitagoan.
- this is for publicity sake
- aron ang dungog sa mga taw nindot gihapon.
- etc...etc... etc...

about sa "selling like hot pancakes"
- just like hot pancakes, naa pud uban maglain ang tiyan inig kaon. hehe.

Note: i believe you'll be replying me with vedeos, or maybe incorrect info.. etc... etc... so please have an original reply not from herbalife tuturials.


So far as to my experience:
maayo pa ang DAKKI, kay ang mga taw ang mangita. dili parehas sa herbalife nga bakakan pa dyud ko. ingnon dayon nga ako ang sayop... sus mayrosep! gamahalmahal lang ko.