Who caused MORE damage to the country, ERAP OR GMA? Why?

[s.n.m.p.]

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but again admissible or not... it still shows and proves that GMA committed massive fraud in the election.

the reason why the court would not admit tape conversations as evidence is because it is prone to tampering and other manipulations...so you can't simply say that GMA commited massive fraud because of these tapes...my advice to the opposition is find a strong evidence..haul GARCILLANO in the courtroom

Mao gani nga kinahanglan gyud ta na siya i impeach para ma timbang timbang ang ebidensya sa oposisyun kung lig-on ba. Sa korte man ta na mag da-ug.

Bad faith gyud si Cheat Executive. Di man gyud siya gusto nga ma imbestigar iyang pag ka Cheat Executive.

tarunga lagi ninyo ug file ang impeachment complaint sunod para dili mapunta sa trash-can

Kinsa may wa magtarung? Si GMA Cheat Executive ra man. In what aspect man nga wa tarunga? Be specific.

[s.n.m.p.]

you know why it was trash right? was it because there was no enough grounds or was it because of technicality?Â* just answer me if it was because of lack of evidence or mere technicality.

trashed or not..still the Garci tape is not admissible in court..the impeachment proceeding has nowhere to go unless the real GARCI himself will testify in court..

What is your basis why you will say its not admissible in court? Can you cite a law? Be specific. Or imo ra ning nadunggan sa barberohan.

THE DISCRETION WHETHER TO ADMIT OR NOT AN EVIDENCE LIES WITHIN THE SOUND DISCRETION OF THE COURT!

GMA knows this so she moved heaven and earth by using peoples money to bribe the crocodile Congressment to outnumber the voting.

[barakz]

whewwww......... gma cause it

[JoRed]

ANALYSIS
Uncertain Future

The future of the Arroyo administration is at best uncertain, and at worst exceedingly bleak. CenPEG is a public policy center set up shortly before the May 2004 elections to help promote people empowerment in governance and democratic representation of the marginalized poor in an elitist and patronage-driven electoral and political system.

By the Center for People Empowerment in Governance (CenPEG)
Posted by Bulatlat


President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo
By now it has become a virtual mantra. Professionals, students and small traders, when asked why they're not out in the streets demanding that Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo resign the presidency she's likely to have usurped, inevitably ask why they should, given the alternative.



While the Arroyo government has welcomed middle-class skepticism that the "constitutional process" could mean anything meaningful, this sentiment is actually bad news for the ruling elite. It also shows the limitations of middle-class capacity to explore alternatives bolder than that of Arroyo's being succeeded by Vice President Noli de Castro, whom vast sections of the middle class dismiss as unprepared for the presidency and even as a party to electoral fraud in 2004.




These limitations are as much the result of middle-class habits of thought as of Arroyo administration efforts.



Very early into the current political crisis, the Arroyo administration made it a point to convince the people that the only "solution" to the crisis would be a "constitutional" one.



It defined "constitutionality" to the exclusion of another People Power exercise, and limited it to impeachment in the knowledge and anticipation that any impeachment complaint before the House of Representatives would be doomed, given the overwhelming dominance in that chamber of Arroyo partisans.



Academicians, church people, members of civil society organizations as well as the traditional opposition walked into the Arroyo trap by abandoning street protests at a critical juncture and concentrating their efforts on the impeachment process despite the evidence offered by the numbers that the effort was unlikely to prosper.



The result of the process was expected. But the killing of the impeachment complaints not only confirmed middle-class skepticism. That skepticism has since morphed into cynicism—the widespread belief that state institutions, particularly the Executive, Congress, and even the Judiciary, are hopelessly mired in the sole pursuit of self-interest to the detriment of national interest.



Distrust of the Estrada, Marcos and Lacson forces that are part of the effort to impeach and/or force Mrs. Arroyo to resign has further fed middle-class cynicism.



The involvement of these forces as well as their leading lights in the anti-Arroyo effort has led to the pre-eminence of the "lesser evil" view, which, while distrustful of and despising Mrs. Arroyo, regards the possible re-emergence of another Marcos and of Joseph Estrada himself, or Senator Panfilo Lacson's assuming the presidency or something equivalent, as a worse disaster.



While that view is debatable (Arroyo is perceived in much of the media and in academia as in fact a worse president than Estrada and even Marcos), the result is that the same vast sections of the middle-class that believe that Arroyo cheated in 2004, that she is incapable of governance, and which regard her as unscrupulous and greedy for nothing more ennobling than power and wealth, are the same sectors that refuse to be involved in the efforts to oust or force her to resign.



While Mrs. Arroyo is the beneficiary of her own grievous flaws, it is at the expense of the very political system over which she currently and fraudulently presides. But it is crucial for the ruling circles of this country—the domestic economic and political elite, as well as their US patrons—to halt the immense erosion of public trust and confidence in the system itself.



Sooner or later they—the US particularly—will conclude that the restoration of public trust in the ruling system cannot happen as long as the Arroyo government remains in power, from the pinnacles of which it only fans the crisis further through its systematic acts of repression – which, among other consequences, have divided the Philippine military to an unprecedented degree. It should also be increasingly clear to the same circles that the Arroyo government is no longer able to govern effectively—and that, on the contrary, it is actually jeopardizing the interests of the domestic and foreign elite.



The long and the short of it is that the Arroyo regime is unlikely to survive in the long term, having so alienated itself from the people that it has become a liability to the interests of both the domestic as well as foreign elite.



This helps explain the unrest that now afflicts the military, in whose officers' thoughts, the country has been told, "breaking the chain of command"—a euphemism for a coup d'etat—has steadily become an acceptable option. Under these conditions the future of the Arroyo regime is at best uncertain-- and at worst exceedingly bleak. Bulatlat

[tolstoi]

you know why it was trash right? was it because there was no enough grounds or was it because of technicality? just answer me if it was because of lack of evidence or mere technicality.

trashed or not..still the Garci tape is not admissible in court..the impeachment proceeding has nowhere to go unless the real GARCI himself will testify in court..

What is your basis why you will say its not admissible in court? Can you cite a law? Be specific. Or imo ra ning nadunggan sa barberohan.

THE DISCRETION WHETHER TO ADMIT OR NOT AN EVIDENCE LIES WITHIN THE SOUND DISCRETION OF THE COURT!

GMA knows this so she moved heaven and earth by using peoples money to bribe the crocodile Congressment to outnumber the voting.

first of all the possession of the wiretap tape conversations in the hands of Sammy ONG is definitely ILLEGAL..see here:

The Act to Prohibit and Penalize Wire Tapping and Other Related Violations of the Privacy of Communication and for Other Purposes[2084] contains a notwithstanding clause that supersedes all inconsistent statutes.[2085] Section 1 states that all parties to a communication must give permission for a recorded wiretap or intercept and makes it illegal to knowingly possess any recording made in prohibition of this law, unless it is evidence for a trial, civil or criminal.[2086] Section 2 assesses liability for any person who contributes to the actions described in § 1.[2087] Section 3 provides certain exceptions to the conditions found in §§ 1-2 but adopts stringent criteria for wiretap warrants, including the identity of the wiretap target; who may execute the warrant; reasonable grounds that a crime has been, is or will be committed; and, a reasonable belief that the evidence obtained via the wiretap will aid in a conviction or prevention of a crime.[2088] Further, predicate offences - or offences for which a court may authorize a wiretap - are limited to several particularly onerous severity.[2089] Section 4 states that any communication obtained in violation of this Act shall not be admissible as evidence in any court.

http://www.privacyinternational.org/...hilippines.htm

that is why SAMMY ONG was acting like an old school queer when he presented the tapes to the media with a bishop on his side..they could not present a permission/warrant from the court allowing them to wiretap GMA and other politicians [including ESTRADA] thus he was culpable of section 4 above...thaw was only for a show to incite the people to revolt..pero wala epik.

i'm not practicing law bai pero bisan grade 3 pa ang mo represent ni GMA sa impeachment court nya kamao lang mubasa for sure the complaint wouldl be quashed bisan sa priliminary hearing pa lang daan!

[tolstoi]

ONG FACES ARREST FOR ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING

MANILA, June 13, 2005 (STAR) Despite having sought refuge in a Roman Catholic seminary, former National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) deputy director Samuel Ong will still be arrested this week by the police for violating the anti-wiretapping law, officials said yesterday.

But Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita said law enforcers would not forcibly drag Ong out of the seminary, which has given him sanctuary since Friday. Ong had asked the Roman Catholic Church for protection.

The Philippine National Police (PNP), meanwhile, thanked actress Susan Roces for rejecting the calls of the opposition to mount a new people power revolt to unseat President Arroyo.

Hundreds of members of militant groups gathered at the Liwasang Bonifacio in Manila last Saturday, calling on Mrs. Arroyo to resign, a day after Ong came out with alleged original tape recordings of Mrs. Arroyo talking to an election official about rigging the results of last year’s presidential election.

"We are thankful to Susan Roces for her being calm. She discouraged the people (from mounting) another revolution," PNP spokesman Chief Superintendent Leopoldo Bataoil said.

Ermita and Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez said in separate interviews that Ong’s arrest would be done in such a manner that it would not cause any trouble and give groups further grist to attack the government.

"The authorities will file for a search warrant and a warrant of arrest and serve it (on Ong) on Tuesday, maybe, and let the law, the processes happen," Ermita said. "There will be no forcible entry into the (San Carlos Seminary) compound."

He added he was "very sure that our authorities will know how to handle that, how to serve the warrant."

Ermita said they could not fault the Church because "every person has the right to look for a sanctuary," nor could they accuse Church officials of meddling in the country’s political affairs.

"We know that there is a separation of church and state. I have always said the Church leaders are only following their advocacy and not because it is their intention to cause an uprising against the government. We know that they have a moral mission to improve the people’s condition," he said.

Bishop Efraim Tendero of the Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches said they are calling for sobriety in the wake of the controversies rocking the government.

"For those who say they have evidence, our wish is that they bring it before the proper forum and not use trial by publicity. Our requests to government leaders and all those in authority is not to suppress the truth," he said.

As to news reports that outgoing National Labor Relations Commission head Roy Señeres talked to the Syrian embassy about asylum for Ong, Ermita said he is leaving it up to the ambassadors of embassies in Manila to protect their own interests. NBI Director Reynaldo Wycoco earlier expressed the belief that Ong would not leave the country.

Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye said the government will handle the situation carefully, without having to compromise the law.

He said it was very clear in the press conference held by Ong last Friday that some laws were violated and this should be investigated.

"But while we’re doing this, we should be prudent and sober," Bunye said.

Gonzalez said the government will go through the legal process of securing a court order for the arrest even if Ong could be arrested without a warrant.

He said Ong’s inflammatory statements, calling on Mrs. Arroyo to resign, could even be grounds for charging him with inciting to sedition, a "continuing crime" that does not require a warrant of arrest.

Gonzalez said the Supreme Court has upheld the legality of warrantless arrests several times.

"Normally, it’s not easy for people to immediately understand such concepts as ‘continuing crime’ and that could be exploited and we would be accused of being ruthless when we are just upholding the law," he said.

The Department of Justice would act as the complainant in this case and file charges of violating Republic Act 4200, which covers both wiretapping and inciting to sedition.

Gonzalez noted that the opposition claims the government is ruthless when it enforces the law, but brands the government as weak if it is humane.

Ong Lawyers Ready

Ong’s eight legal counsels, all of them volunteers, said yesterday they are ready to defend him in court once he is arrested by law enforcement agencies.

Lawyer Luis Sison told The STAR in a phone interview that their client need not worry about being jailed since inciting to sedition and violating the anti-wiretapping law are both bailable offenses.

"We expect the actions to go to court. Agencies that intend to run after him would have to go to court before they could arrest and prosecute him," Sison said.

However, Sison admitted he and Ong’s other lawyers have yet to hear the audiotape — allegedly containing a "wiretapped" phone conversation between Mrs. Arroyo and Commission on Elections commissioner Virgilio Garcillano arranging her poll victory in Mindanao — and a videotape showing how Ong got the audiotape from sources in the Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

Liwayway Vinzons-Chato, who heads Ong’s retinue of lawyers, has maintained her belief that the court would junk the charges against their client for lack of merit.

"If their only basis for the arrest was his statement calling for the President’s resignation, they should then arrest Sen. Aquilino Pimentel Jr. and other people with the same sentiment as well," she said.

Ong’s lawyers said Ong has been able to get some rest after he surfaced last Friday, looking "more calm and less worried as compared to the past two days."

They also confirmed Ong is still inside the seminary, where he will continue to stay "until the bishops are allowing him to."

Sison said though they are not aware of any plans by Ong to secure asylum in another country, "it would be a justifiable move because his life is under serious threat."

He stressed that threats to Ong’s life really do exist, citing an abandoned Mitsubishi Galant, with license plates TSC-796, recovered inside the seminary.

Ong’s fears of a possible attempt on his life peaked yesterday after several men in a car fled on foot after being discovered inside the seminary compound Friday night.

Sison had peeked into the vehicle the following morning and saw a rifle.

"The armalite only proves he is in danger. We want to determine who owns this vehicle and firearm, but we are under the belief that they are from possible assassins," Sison said.

The Southern Police District’s anti-carnapping unit took the vehicle into custody yesterday afternoon. SPD-AnCar head Chief Inspector Eduardo Tungol said they recovered an unlicensed vehicle without the firearm.

"We will verify with our regional office to determine the owner of the vehicle," he said.

Sources inside the seminary said they had seen policemen detach the license plate before moving the car.

The SPD-Ancar team who took the vehicle from the seminary said they did not take anything. They were the only ones allowed to enter the seminary compound since the gates were locked to prevent rallyists and newsmen from entering.

Tungol said they will trace the owner of the car on Tuesday with the help of the Land Transportation Office. He said this can be done even without the license plate since each car has a unique chassis and engine number.

Policemen led by SPD director Chief Superintendent Wilfredo Garcia himself had tried to gain access to the vehicle since Friday but were not allowed to enter the seminary even after assuring Church officials that they are not there to arrest Ong.

Meanwhile, Reps. Eric Singson of Ilocos Sur and Robert Ace Barbers of Surigao del Norte said the controversial audiotape recording will not cause Mrs. Arroyo’s downfall since she had nothing to do with the wiretapping.

Barbers warned that any change in government must be within the bounds of the law or the next leader that will be installed through another revolt will face the same turmoil. — Paolo Romero, Cecille Suerte Felipe, Evelyn Macairan, Edu Punay, Michael Punongbayan, Perseus Echeminada

http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/hl/hl102187.htm

[Moshi Moshi]

From: Thief and Robbery Institution
MINING ACT MAKES FOREIGN COMPANY OWNERS OF PHILIPPINE MINES.

Environment Secretary Michael P. Defensor says some P500 million in investments have come into local mining. He sees a boom, just like chamber of mines president Philip Romualdez.Â* Defensor assures investors government policy will be stable and rules will not be changed in the middle of the game.

"We are in a very unique situation because, not only do we have a law, but that law has been upheld by the Supreme Court, and this law has been emphasized through executive orders by the President," Defensor notes in an interview with BizNewsAsia.

"So, among the three branches of government there’s a very clear perspective on how responsible mining should be conducted, on how the policy should be undertaken," he stresses. "That is one assurance that we have."

The Supreme Court on December 1, 2004, upheld the constitutionality of the Philippine Mining Act of 1995 (Republic Act 7942), which allows foreign ownership of mining projects.

According to Defensor, the government is putting up a mining council to be composed of the Department of Trade and Industry, the National Economic and Development Authority, the Department of Finance and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. "It is more of an executive oversight committee for the mining industry," Defensor explains.

"So over and above the laws and the policies we are also creating structures and systems to ensure that the policy will not be affected," he points out

The policies and measures for the mining industry also addresses the concerns raised by environment advocates, which in the past had rallied against the exploitation of mineral resources.

"If you look at the mining operations in the country you only talk of 23 mining areas and there’s so much biodiverse areas to protect; there’s so much forest to protect," Defensor says.

He points out that more areas have been damaged by illegal logging than mining projects. "In the sixties we had 15 million hectares of forest lands; now our forest lands have gone down to about 7.2 million hectares," Defensor recalls.

"And that has not been caused by mining. It was caused by illegal logging, which in the sixties destroyed an average of 300,000 to 400,000 hectares of forest lands a year." The situation has been reversed beginning in the mid-80s.

Defensor believes that mining can be environment-friendly, and notes that this is now government policy.

"There such a thing as responsible mining, and I think the best testimony to this would be the companies that are here now because they themselves are the ones defending and explaining the policies of the country," the DENR chief relates. "When we went to Australia for a road show many of the Australian businessmen who have already invested and worked in the country [spoke favorably of the Philippine government’s policies], and we have had positive reviews because of this."

Before 1995, there was no environmental regulation or requirements for mining companies. "That is why we have eight abandoned mines, which .continue to produce acid water because of the acidity of the open canals and the drainage areas of the mines," Defensor reveals. "That’s one of the things that we are working on now to make sure that these mines are rehabilitated." He explains that the December 2004 Supreme Court decision was a landmark because the Mining Act, which the court upheld, provides for environmental protection and enhancement program.

"Even before the mining companies mine they actually plant trees, they make sure that the area will be enhanced environmentally," Defensor stresses.

"Secondly, there’s a mine-rehabilitation program," he adds. "Before, the policy was, [rehabilitation was done] at the end of the mining. Now, from the start we make sure that there’s already a provision for that; the remediation will be assured."

The government also requires mining companies to put up an environmental guarantee fund. "But besides the environmental guarantee fund we’re putting up an insurance liability program," Defensor discloses. "In the case of Marcopper, when we had the problem in the past we did not have the money to remediate the areas that were affected environmentally. We’re putting in the insurance not for the company but for the people, if there would be problems later on."

According to the NEDA, mining is one of the growth drivers of the economy. During the second quarter mining posted a 13.9-percent growth. NEDA values the country’s mineral reserves at $840 billion.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=18841

Above the Law and backed by executive orders. Davide and GMA backdoor shady deals
Mining Companies explaining impact to environment? = No independent investigation? Making Filipino fools.
Invironment Friendly? = How can it be friendly when you take out minerals and replace it with water - ACID WATER.
Enhanced Enviromentally? = Talk about Digging Holes underground and replaced it with Trees on Top.
mine-rehabilitation program.= Doesn't say how to replace the minerals stolen.
Foreign company will invest P 500 million while taking out country's mineral reserved at $ 840 million. - What's the difference. Peso versus Dollar. What's the amount?

Here's where Corrupt Official will take their cut.
The government also requires mining companies to put up an environmental guarantee fund. "But besides the environmental guarantee fund we’re putting up an insurance liability program,".= Yeah right.

Damage Philippines.

[Empress_Of_Drac]

ot: hay...kakapoy basa news oist...toink

[Moshi Moshi]

Above the Law and backed by executive orders.
Mining Companies explaining impact to environment? = No independent investigation? Making Filipino fools.
Invironment Friendly? = How can it be friendly when you take out minerals and replace it with water - ACID WATER.
Enhanced Enviromentally? = Talk about Digging Holes underground and replaced it with Trees on Top.
mine-rehabilitation program.= Doesn't say how to replace the minerals stolen.
Foreign company will invest P 500 million while taking out country's mineral reserved at $ 840 million. - What's the difference. Peso versus Dollar. What's the amount?

Here's where Corrupt Official will take their cut.
The government also requires mining companies to put up an environmental guarantee fund. "But besides the environmental guarantee fund we’re putting up an insurance liability program,".= Yeah right.

Damage Philippines.

That is Hard Solid Facts Drac.Â* Gahi..Kusgan..ug Baskug....nga Tinoud...Â*

[Moshi Moshi]

Haven't seen far worst damage being done?
Who is robbing us from our Natural Treasures?
Who allow it?Â* GMA and Davide with help from Defensor. Fat bank overseas?

We are being rob of our National Treasure. Below are excerpts from an independent investigation about the impact of these robbers.

Quote from ChristianAid
The picture is clear – people who live near mines are being made worse off.

Only a small minority benefit from the jobs the mines create and the occasional company-sponsored community programme.

The report examines the environmental legacy of the Mankayan copper and gold mine, owned by Philippine company Lepanto, which has caused pollution damage across four provinces.

It looks at the how the rights of the indigenous Subanon in Canatuan on the southern Philippine island of Mindanao have been sacrificed so that a Canadian company, TVI Pacific, can mine gold. Local people fear economic ruin because of pollution from the mine and the area has become heavily militarised, with communities facing harassment and violence. End Quote

Download UK report PDF http://www.christianaid.org.uk/indep...nes_report.pdf

Our Ill Public Officials has sold us out.Â* TREASON.