god was never all good... if he is then evil woudnt have existed the first place..
dont tell me that evil just pop out of nowhere..
god was never all good... if he is then evil woudnt have existed the first place..
dont tell me that evil just pop out of nowhere..
so ... if he is not all good, then why do 'we' believe in everything that he supposedly said to us through the bible?
uh oh!
“What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk
because he is suppose to be higher than us..
i agree. and in the old testament, the christian God was killing, massacaring, genocide, etc... now that cant be a perfectly "good" god.
if we put that he knows everything, surely he knows some other way that will teach humanity a lesson OTHER THAN massacre! please do not give us that cock and bull story that he has his own mysterious ways... when he is suppose to be reaching out to us and letting himself be known.
“What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk
and we never asked god to create us, then why should he punish us, he should punish himself(sorry)
i rest my case... for now.![]()
“What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk
and how do u suppose he should do that? talk to you face to face and split the difference between something that exist but is intangible and something that doesnt exist? duh!!!Originally Posted by gareb
Originally Posted by JesusFreak
Did Ignorance create God?
At a certain college, there was a Jesus Freak with a reputation for being a
nuisance to those who thought freely. At the first class every semester, he
asked if anyone was a free thinker and proceeded to degrade and mock their opinion.
One semester, he asked the question and a young man raised his hand when asked if anyone was a free thinker. The Jesus Freak asked, "Did God make everything, young man?"
"Before you ask that question, you must first ask whether or not God exists", the young man replied.
The Jesus Freak responded, "If God made everything, then God made evil, and if we can only create from within ourselves, then God is evil."
The student didn't have a response and the Jesus Freak was happy to have once again proved the free thinkers wrong.
Then another man raised his hand and asked, "May I ask you something, sir?". "Yes you may," responded the Jesus Freak. The young man stood up and said, "Sir, is there such thing as cold?".
"Of course there is, what kind of a question is that? Haven't you ever been cold?"
The young man replied, "Actually, sir, cold does not exist. What we consider to be cold, is really only the absence of heat. Absolute zero is when there is absolutely no heat, but cold does not really exist. We have only created that term to describe how we feel when heat is not there. And what's more baffling is that heat does not exist. What we consider to be heat, is really only the absence of cold. Heat is when there is absolutely no cold, but heat does not really exist. We have only created that term to describe how we feel when cold is not there."
The young man continued, "Sir, is there such thing as dark?"
Once again, the Jesus Freak responded, "Of course there is." And once again, the student replied, "Actually, sir, darkness does not exist. Darkness is really only the absence of light. Darkness is only a term man developed to describe what happens when there is no light present. And what's more baffling is that light does not exist. Light is really only the absence of darkness. Light is only a term man developed to describe what happens when there is no darkness present."
Finally, the young man asked, "Sir, is there such thing as evil?"
The Jesus Freak, very much confused now, responded, "Of course. We have rapes, and murders and violence everywhere in the world, those things are evil." The student replied, "Actually, sir, evil does not exist. Evil is simply the absence of God. Evil is a term man developed to describe the
absence of God. God did not create evil. It isn't like truth, or love, which
exist as virtues like heat and light. Evil is simply the state where God is
not present. Conversely, God does not exist. God is simply the absence of
Evil. God is a term man developed to describe the absence of Evil. Evil did
not create God. It isn't like truth, or love, which exist as virtues like
heat and light. God is simply the state where Evil is not present, like heat
without cold or light without darkness."
The Jesus Freak was now utterly confused.
yes.Originally Posted by bitch_adrienne
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but unfortunately he cannot. he is intangible. ouch.
“What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk
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