RELIGION

[MrBiddle]

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This is my first time sa kani nga thread.... naunsa mani dri! is this really for politics? kuyawards naman ta sa mga taw dri. it seems nga naa pud diay mga pastor og pare dri grabe gud!

Ang suhito diri silang Dacs kay maestro's ECE college og internet librarian na si HoundedbyHeaven

I don't know basin pari jud na si Mr. Amaddor......

OT: karl007, writer ka sa sunstar noh?

[karl007]

We got the same name.. Karl Cabilao, but we are not one.

Why people always keep on banging other people's religion? Why cant they respect other people's choice? I know that nobody would concede on this thread but could we be more sensitive on other people's choice and opinion. This is what they think are true and pumping them with your thoughts could test their pride big time.

So why dont we respective each other's opinion and follow what has been the norms of the society? Aight?

[MrBiddle]

We got the same name.. Karl Cabilao, but we are not one.

Why people always keep on banging other people's religion? Why cant they respect other people's choice? I know that nobody would concede on this thread but could we be more sensitive on other people's choice and opinion. This is what they think are true and pumping them with your thoughts could test their pride big time.

So why dont we respective each other's opinion and follow what has been the norms of the society? Aight?

One may be free to change religion. But Truth is unchanging.... there are those with overconfidence, arrogance and seemingly righteous fury because they are confident they have found Truth.....

But if one were to take the path of Mulder and Scully, then the Truth is still out there, waiting to be discovered.

I see I thought you were him.

[mannyamador]

Now that this is done, try read Revelation. 11 the whole of it.... it says that the Two Witnesses (New and Old Testament) will prophecy.

Any Yahoo can make PERSONAL INTERPRETATIONS. Proving that they have the PERSONAL AUTHORITY to make INFALLIBLE INTERPRETATIONS is another thing entirely. And you've just shown you DON'T have such authority with these wacky interpretations

So although it isn't stated explicitly? If we look for a deeper search of truth in the errors of heterodox, indeed the New and the Old Testament are the two (Zec. 4: 14 ) even the only two who will prophecy for the Lord of the earth.

No it's not. Do you know what EXPLICIT means? It means to state exactly what is asked in such clear temrs that it needs no interpretation. You still have to do all sorts of twisting of words just to make it mean what you want it to. So it's prety obvious it is NOT EXPLICIT. You're still INTERPRETING but without AUTHORITY to do so.

You're twisitng things around and taking things out of context. Again, does anyone see any explicit statement that the Bibnle is the ONLY source of Chrsitian doctrine in thos everses? There's NOTHING in them that says so.

The statement it is written word was frequently bandied though before the documents were compiled into "The Books"... but that doesn't mean Canon wasn't existent before the 4th century.... it already was as early as 170 A.D. and way earlier than that, the most infallible source of spiritual discernment were The Documents

It was the Authority of the Catholic Church that established the Canon. In AD 170 ll they had were collections that even included spurious books. That is hiostorial favt. It took the Catholic CXhurch ofver the course of severla Councols to establish the Canon. Stop making up history and READ some of it instead.

The bottom line: Sola Scriptura is UNSCRIPTURAL

[mannyamador]

Mannyamaddor, di ba ka si Manny Lapinkaw? (sp?) Kay murag maghuhuni pud na siya gawas kung sangay ra'y naa nimo niya

No. That's a silly accusation. You can ask Beor himslef. H eknows me.

By the way, I know Manny Lapincao. And he's taller than me.

[MrBiddle]

It was the Authority of the Catholic Church that established the Canon. In AD 170 ll they had were collections that even included spurious books. That is hiostorial favt. It took the Catholic CXhurch ofver the course of severla Councols to establish the Canon. Stop making up history and READ some of it instead.

The bottom line: Sola Scriptura is UNSCRIPTURAL

They didn't establish it..... they merely affirmed that which already existed, well, at least earlier than the 4th century.

You're twisitng things around and taking things out of context. Again, does anyone see any explicit statement that the Bibnle is the ONLY source of Chrsitian doctrine in thos everses? There's NOTHING in them that says so.

But I've already posted there's plenty that says the documents are all-sufficient... And it opposes what is written in My Catholic Faith by Bishop Morrow They do not contain all the necesary truths for our salvation

[MrBiddle]

although not all of the miracles were documented, we are not left in darkness with doctrines for salvation in the Sacred Documents..... or the Scroll or the Book (Is. 34: 16 NAB)

No it's not. Do you know what EXPLICIT means? It means to state exactly what is asked in such clear temrs that it needs no interpretation. You still have to do all sorts of twisting of words just to make it mean what you want it to. So it's prety obvious it is NOT EXPLICIT.

It's pretty vague in Zechariah in fact the apparition in the Vasulla Ryden books says it's stands for the Alliance of TWo Hearts or the Son and CoRedemptrix.... but when you get to Rev. 11 it gets as clear as crystal..... it doesn't take a genius to interpret. when you get to the last book.....

Likewise, what makes the RCC infallible in interpreting Scripture? I mentioned that issue in Rev. 12 something the clergy can never justify or else the foundations of the church are at the threat of being undermined... go back to that post I made about Rev. 12... or Sirach.

if you think about it the Papal infalliblity was declared about 17 centuries AFTER the founding of Christianity even Peter made mistakes in decisions (Gal. 2: 11 - 15 ) And nothing ever states him as an exclusive vicar higher than one or any of the apostles, but rather he himself regarded his person as a fellow elder 1 Pet. 5: 1

[richard79]

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[Moshi Moshi]

Sinag ng bayan.

Light of the country.

[Empress_Of_Drac]

The bibles...scriptures...etc...are just mere guides...and not really the basis of our salvation...it's what we do that could save us...(kung naa man jud ganiy salvation...)wehehehehehe...i mean bible talks about heaven and hell right? but does these places really exist?...(just curious...)