Asa nindot puy-an sa Mindanao?

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Tacurong, Kidapawan and Digos....

[davies107]

ikaw mismo nag-ingun na experience niya and gipost nya about condo living...just see your post below..

.incoherent kaayo ka pre...ikaw mismo nag-ingun na it was based on his experience, now iwas dayon ka...

just to remind you pre, I ask, kinsa nag-ingun na feeling ug know it all ang taga-Davao. dili pa jud magbisaya? answer daw the question intelligently. dili kanang *sigh* lang imong answer or quote of other posts..

it's not about kinsa pildi or daug...the thing is naga-panlibak mga tao and naga spread ng incorrect info...

as far as Davaoeños are concerned,ginacorrect lang ang misinformation ng nanyayari dito, like what it's like regarding condo living and supposedly "feeling" daw kuno ang taga-Davao, pati na ang downgrading sa mga Mindanaoans na walay kwarta and poor. I hope magets ninyo na

I dont know why you dwell too much sa statement atu na tao, if mao tu iya post then let it be why man jud i pugos ninyo na dili tinuod or dili niya na experience. respect nalang sa post niya. instead na inyo ibali or awayun or ilalis, mo ingun nalang mo na sako experience or experience sako friend kay lahi lagi, okey raman magpuyo sa condo, etc ang inyo kay i insist ninyo na sayup sya, naa sab ni ingun stupid reasoning... ako lang jud point ani bro is lahi lahi tag ideas dri, never insist inyung ideas sa ubang tao kay dili na pwede.

about sa feeling daw taga Davao, thats what ive heard sako mga friends, first hand experience nila sa call center didto sa CDO. tapos nko ofismit na ganun din, knows it all, so gusto nimo balihun nko ang story arun lang ma please mo? it was my experience with that guy... again, dili na sya libak kay someone ask me what kind of the person he is, so unsa ako buhatun mag lie? diba mas makasala na nuon ko ana? i dont generalize people from davao as what ive mentioned b4 pero kani experience nko is timing na taga davao sya. he should be sensitive enough na dili lang iyang ideas mauy sakto in a corporate world, dapat maminaw sya sa mga ideas sa uban, if di sya paminawan, masuko man sya... so now tell me, if someone will ask me what kind of a person si Mr.Juan, should i lie? or i ingun nko kung unsa ako pagtan aw niya.. i know you get my point. again, not all from Davao are like that, timing lang ni sya na taga Davao. Giving an impression to a person is not libak unless it is done habitually.

Ako wala koy problema sa Davao, i could see it na very progressive pero naa man gud magtabang tabang nko na i dont know unsa ila gusto, ila cguro ko ipa sulti ug Davao ko, and not CDO na. asa ang justice, asa ang due process, asa ako rights? hahahahaha....

[gilay]

sa butuan kay barato ra ang pamaliton didto dili pa samok............

[bisayadakoo]

Ayo mga Silingan,

let me tell you again;
I didn't bashed/badmouth ANY city when I post a message.
If you are in doubt, please review all that I've posted and show me which one that I mention your city and then badmouth it.

Most of the time, I only mention, CDO, CIC, MisOr, NorMin (pardon, if I missed a couple) and presenting it the way I see it. I did NOT mention your city and say, "your city is this and that". If you can find one then please show it to me.

I'm guilty of saying something like AURORA, ZDS ROCKS!!!!!

But most importantly, I did NOT mention a city and bashed it. I have to say this again and again because some still don't get it. I can call them names but I don't want to lower my standard.

Perhaps, the reaction of some here are just culture shock. Expecially when I explicitly give an example like "headboard banging, etc"

The example maybe so lucid that it makes a person offended. You shouldn't be, because this is the Internet. The exchange of ideas is only limited to your imagination.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Like what I'm doing but I didn't bashed any city. (see I said it again)

Some get so confused that they call my opinion as "stupid". How come it's stupid that all those I enumerated are true. It didn't happen in one setting/location but all those samples did happen.

You may ask, "show me proof that's true". Well, if you can come to Sydney, AUS then I can show you some proof. Wait a sec, did someone claim that I don't know what a condo looked like. Doh!!!, like no condo/apartments in Sydney!!! The source of my info is a friend of mine who works for over 12 years now in a highrise property developer in NSW and QLD.


WARNING: If you are conservative and not open minded and doesn't accept other peoples opinion, then do not continue reading.


1) "humping like a beaver".
This was on the complaints database. Let me ask you, how thick is the concrete slab between floors? 13 cm or 15cm? Is there a 2ndary ceiling on your condo? If there is a 2ndary ceiling with insulation batt then most likely you will not experience this. How thick it the "batt"? What R rating is the batt? Is it carpet to timber floor finishing? If you are an Engg background then you can calculate how dB is required until you can hear the "humping like a beaver".

2) headboard banging.
Well, if you've seen some movie with that example, and still you don't believe it. Then the best why to confirm it is to try it yourself. Of course you need to be in a condo. How thick is the concrete wall between apartments? 11cm or 16cm? If you are an Engg background you will understand that it would a bit hard to put batt on concrete walls. You can, but you need to double the thickness of the wall, thus reducing the condo floor area, just a bit though. Now the testing part. Make sure that your neighbors are already home and it's bed time. Postion your headboard making sure that it's properly align to the bedroom next door and as close as the concrete wall. Then start simulating as if you are banging someone who has a hacienda but prefer to live in a condo . Otherwise, make your wife/GF agree with you that you are trying to disprove this bloody Bisaya Dako's claims. Bangin the headboard for a long as you want. The next morning, check out the reaction of the "desperate housewife" who lives next door. If she gives you a naughty look and smile then you are good. But if she gives you a naughty look and smile and she inserts her finger in her mouth then you are AMAZING! However, if your next door neighbour is gay then you are in big trouble.

3) rashes on your thighs and backside.
Make sure that the condo gym is well sanitized. If possible, bring a disinfectant spray just in case the guy using the stationary bike before you is a wanker. Because mostly likely you will get rashes from him. Typically, people with mistresses hide their partners in a condo. If in doubt, ask your doctor/GP if it's really position to get rashes this way.

4) condo swimming pool.
You may not agree with me but I rather swim in the upper part of the CDO river than any condo swimming pool. The fact is, if someone pee on the river, the river current and the volume of the water will quickly dilute the pee. But if someone pee in the condo pool, it will not dilute quickly. Compared the volume of the condo swimming pool and CDO river. How many kids pee on the pool? Don't tell me you didn't You may say, but Chlorine is there. Yes, chlorine is in the pool but still the water volume is still small. Also google what are the effects of chlorine.

5) Punk Rock Drummer.
Again this is similar to 1) above. It's all subject to how good is the insulation.

6) Sewer clogged up.
One reply here something like, "maybe I live in a ka-bungkagon nga condo", or something like "if everybody is a bogan, then expect to have this problem". Well, whether your condo is brand new or not, sewer clogging can happen anytime. If you think that it won't happen to your condo because it's brand new then you are lying to yourself. Regarding claims that bogan are always in a bogan community is not entirely true. Why? Because that bogan could have a hydrophonic somewhere. Thus, that bogan can afford expensive condo.

7) flooding.
Again this is similar to 6) above. A good example is, late last year a new Commercial Tenant just move-in about two floors above our head office. Then when the removalist brought in the office furniture, they accidentally hit the fire sprinkler. Trigerring the chain reaction of fire sprinklers of that floor. The fire alarm was triggered and then about 10-12 minutes later firemen arrived and turn off the sprinker system. During that 12 minutes, the floor was flooded and starts to drip one floor below. The new commercial tenant paid the fire false alarm penalty. Their new office is soaking wet and the tenant below is experiencing some small drips on the ceiling. I can continue with more details but I leave that to you.

8 Stoned kid lit his condo.
This may not happen very often but it did happen. It didn't burn the entire condo but it trashed his condo. The likelyhood of the entire condo being burnt is always there no matter how small the probability is.

9) still barracking that condo living is luxurious.
the good example is some, people here are like that. despite all the obvious reason, example, they still won't admit it.


The points above are some of the reasons why condo living is not luxurious than a suburban living. There are just too many factors that you have no control compared to suburban living. Even if you do the right thing. Still left, right, and center are giving you problems. No that's wrong, not left, right and centre. But above, below, and adjacent

Amen....sigue...cape, cape, ug pan.

Now hold your horses.
Ayaw baya ug sinta dayon kay mawala ang imong pagka-pachada.
Please remember that I did NOT bashed/badmouth any city here.


cheers,
Bisaya Dako

[fallenFate]

Ako wala koy problema sa Davao, i could see it na very progressive pero naa man gud magtabang tabang nko na i dont know unsa ila gusto, ila cguro ko ipa sulti ug Davao ko, and not CDO na. asa ang justice, asa ang due process, asa ako rights? hahahahaha....

hahaha grabeeeee dibdibang usapan naman ni! hehehe

oist wla pa lagi nitubag sa ako question unsay bati sa davao? wla mo traffic dra? limpyo ug hapsay inyo tanan kalsada sa davao, unlike sa CDO na samok/maypgka-hugaw gamay (based sa pictures na gipost sa previous page)?

[sandman.ink]

I dont know why you dwell too much sa statement atu na tao, if mao tu iya post then let it be why man jud i pugos ninyo na dili tinuod or dili niya na experience. respect nalang sa post niya. instead na inyo ibali or awayun or ilalis, mo ingun nalang mo na sako experience or experience sako friend kay lahi lagi, okey raman magpuyo sa condo, etc ang inyo kay i insist ninyo na sayup sya, naa sab ni ingun stupid reasoning... ako lang jud point ani bro is lahi lahi tag ideas dri, never insist inyung ideas sa ubang tao kay dili na pwede.

first, sa mga forum when you post something and try to pass it off as a fact, then be prepared to be challenged. that's the whole idea of what a forum is...di ba forum ni? no one is insisting, it's just setting the record straight, or even at least balanced ang ideas na mapresent...sobra kanegative ang post sa poster about condos, it's not even balance, it's irresponsible.

again, the poster posted negative things about condo living, so people challenged his negative perception...the thing is, condo-living is a business, it's part of the realty industry. You can't just throw mud at an industry that feeds many people then act like your an innocent victim when your idea is challenged. also, the poster belittled people who chose to live in condominium...it's like saying ngano mangpuyo mo sa bukid? then goes on to give the negative sides of settling in such an area. it's ugly and an improper attitude, pandaut na sya...just like you said, ngano mag-resort sa negative things, why not post positives d b??...ikaw mismo nagsabi nun...pero, kung taga CDO diay ang magpost imo dayon idefend na opinion nya na? get real.

about sa feeling daw taga Davao, thats what ive heard sako mga friends, first hand experience nila sa call center didto sa CDO. tapos nko ofismit na ganun din, knows it all, so gusto nimo balihun nko ang story arun lang ma please mo? it was my experience with that guy... again, dili na sya libak kay someone ask me what kind of the person he is, so unsa ako buhatun mag lie? diba mas makasala na nuon ko ana? i dont generalize people from davao as what ive mentioned b4 pero kani experience nko is timing na taga davao sya. he should be sensitive enough na dili lang iyang ideas mauy sakto in a corporate world, dapat maminaw sya sa mga ideas sa uban, if di sya paminawan, masuko man sya... so now tell me, if someone will ask me what kind of a person si Mr.Juan, should i lie? or i ingun nko kung unsa ako pagtan aw niya.. i know you get my point. again, not all from Davao are like that, timing lang ni sya na taga Davao. Giving an impression to a person is not libak unless it is done habitually.

Ako wala koy problema sa Davao, i could see it na very progressive pero naa man gud magtabang tabang nko na i dont know unsa ila gusto, ila cguro ko ipa sulti ug Davao ko, and not CDO na. asa ang justice, asa ang due process, asa ako rights? hahahahaha....

ang opinion namo, libak na pre, ngano insist nimo na lahi tag ideas..why libak na sya?
first, this thread asks about asa nindot puyuan sa Davao...unsay labot sa taga-davao na officemate nimo??...ngano imong apil-apilun sa discussion sa thread na ni? kay ang tinuod, daghan pud ko kaila na taga-CDO, and I would not want to post their negative sides here, kay kitang tanan naay negative sides. who's perfect anyway?

unsa diay imong motive ngano imo na gi-bring up nang iyang attitude? sige, you want justice, then spill the beans bro, naa bay nangutana sa imo unsa attitude sa imong officemate na taga-Davao dri sa thread? if wala, tell us why the need to bring up your officemate na walay apil sa thread topic?

[sandman.ink]

Ayo mga Silingan,
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bisayadakoo, i clipped you msg msyado mahaba...anyway, your post smacks of malice or even bitterness...why do you have to post all these negative things? what is your motive? because, you could post negative things about ANY thing and just leave it as that...example, I could post why it's bad to live in CDO, and just leave it as that...again, how would it look like? lahat ng mga lugar/living styles has negative sides...sa mga posh suburds, meron ding negative sides...you think fires don't happen in posh subdivisions? or, or there are no swimming pools or gyms in their clubhouse? you think walang mistresses na binabahay sa suburbs?

lahat ng bagay meron negative side, ang ginawa mo is pure black propaganda against condominiums. did you bother to post positive sides about condos... at least maging balance man lang ang post mo kahit papano...
what you did was post black propaganda against condos nung na-establish ang fact na wala palang condo sa CDO...condos kse ang tinanong ng original poster ng thread nato kse his brother wants to live in one...Patrick Mike was asking saan ang place with condos and better ang urbanity....nung mapatunayan na walang condos sa CDO you proceeded to bash condos and the Mindanaons who you called "cannot afford to live in one"

[davies107]

first, sa mga forum when you post something and try to pass it off as a fact, then be prepared to be challenged. that's the whole idea of what a forum is...di ba forum ni? no one is insisting, it's just setting the record straight, or even at least balanced ang ideas na mapresent...sobra kanegative ang post sa poster about condos, it's not even balance, it's irresponsible.

again, the poster posted negative things about condo living, so people challenged his negative perception...the thing is, condo-living is a business, it's part of the realty industry. You can't just throw mud at an industry that feeds many people then act like your an innocent victim when your idea is challenged. also, the poster belittled people who chose to live in condominium...it's like saying ngano mangpuyo mo sa bukid? then goes on to give the negative sides of settling in such an area. it's ugly and an improper attitude, pandaut na sya...just like you said, ngano mag-resort sa negative things, why not post positives d b??...ikaw mismo nagsabi nun...pero, kung taga CDO diay ang magpost imo dayon idefend na opinion nya na? get real.

if you want to post proofs then show it, if someone wants to share his first hand experience or personal opinion why he wants to stay in CDO ma question ba nimo sya? Did i question about how progressive Davao is? Did i? answer daw.... BUT a lot of people from Davao are asking me in what way nakalamang ang CDO sa Davao, for me lamang kaau sya in my own personal experience because i spent most of my life there. i dont need to post pictures sa mga high rises na mga buildings, ug uban pa because for me choosing the best place in Mindanao doesnt only rely on those projects or skycrapers na buildings BUT on my personal experience... cge lang ko balik balik ani ay. ako pa ba i post ako proof na nahan ko CDO kay gabar me sako friends inig gabii, bibo kaau me, ga watch me sine sako family inig sunday, etc.... basta personal experience ako reasons ug facts why i chose CDO and not how progressive a city is.

about sa condo, i guess that guy stated his point na, kindly read na lang...

ang opinion namo, libak na pre, ngano insist nimo na lahi tag ideas..why libak na sya?
first, this thread asks about asa nindot puyuan sa Davao...unsay labot sa taga-davao na officemate nimo??...ngano imong apil-apilun sa discussion sa thread na ni? kay ang tinuod, daghan pud ko kaila na taga-CDO, and I would not want to post their negative sides here, kay kitang tanan naay negative sides. who's perfect anyway?

unsa diay imong motive ngano imo na gi-bring up nang iyang attitude? sige, you want justice, then spill the beans bro, naa bay nangutana sa imo unsa attitude sa imong officemate na taga-Davao dri sa thread? if wala, tell us why the need to bring up your officemate na walay apil sa thread topic?

Why i brought that up, try to read this:

ang masulti lang nako ha

sa mga tiga cagayan dira na mu insist na ka-level (or muapas mo sa davao)...

wake up to reality daw uy...ayaw nang pag social climber dira kay layo ra baya kaayo ang difference sa kanindot ug ka progresibo sa davao ug cagayan de oro...lamang daw kaayo ang davao oi..ayaw nag palag kay mao na ang tinood..either nag daydream lang ka or imo lang ginaloko imong kaugalingon if you think nga ka level ang duha ka syudad

i was just reacting to this. social climber? daydreamers? ug fooling oneself? Thats how it started... If you want to know all the details about this "libak" issue well, back read ka nalang pwede. Okey, i will ask you, if someone will ask you unsa klase na tao imo amigo and you will site some good points and bad points of him, katung nag mention ka ug bad things sa iyaha, libak na sya? are you sure? dapat diay puro nice words ang mo gawas satu baba if someone will ask for our background, etc kay if naay bad comments mahimo na syang libak (as what you are telling me). If ever na imo ni sya i throw sako na pandaut, kindly read also sa mga pandaut sa imong mga kauban dri.. thanks.

[sandman.ink]

if you want to post proofs then show it, if someone wants to share his first hand experience or personal opinion why he wants to stay in CDO ma question ba nimo sya? Did i question about how progressive Davao is? Did i? answer daw.... BUT a lot of people from Davao are asking me in what way nakalamang ang CDO sa Davao, for me lamang kaau sya in my own personal experience because i spent most of my life there. i dont need to post pictures sa mga high rises na mga buildings, ug uban pa because for me choosing the best place in Mindanao doesnt only rely on those projects or skycrapers na buildings BUT on my personal experience... cge lang ko balik balik ani ay. ako pa ba i post ako proof na nahan ko CDO kay gabar me sako friends inig gabii, bibo kaau me, ga watch me sine sako family inig sunday, etc.... basta personal experience ako reasons ug facts why i chose CDO and not how progressive a city is.

good kung ano imo reason...but then again, the original question was about urbanity of the places in Mindanao, unsa ang mas nindot in terms of urbanity, condos, etc..so ayaw na lang pud ug react if we post things regarding urbanity sa Davao, etc...kay murag as far as you're concerned dili sya applicable sa imo.

about sa condo, i guess that guy stated his point na, kindly read na lang...

then I guess, you would understand the uproar sa iyang post...or should I say black propaganda

Why i brought that up, try to read this:

i was just reacting to this. social climber? daydreamers? ug fooling oneself? Thats how it started... If you want to know all the details about this "libak" issue well, back read ka nalang pwede.

I didn't read anything that pertains to the generalization of cayananons..the post clearly states those who think na ka-level ang Davao and CdO...he even used the word "if" mag-insist about ubanity. again, opinion nya un di ba? why become selective of your principles...it just happens his opinion counters the opinin na magkalevel ang Davao and CdO

Okey, i will ask you, if someone will ask you unsa klase na tao imo amigo and you will site some good points and bad points of him, katung nag mention ka ug bad things sa iyaha, libak na sya? are you sure? dapat diay puro nice words ang mo gawas satu baba if someone will ask for our background, etc kay if naay bad comments mahimo na syang libak (as what you are telling me). If ever na imo ni sya i throw sako na pandaut, kindly read also sa mga pandaut sa imong mga kauban dri.. thanks.

human kinsa diay nangutana sa imo about your friend from Davao? why did you mention his "negative" attitude? naa ba? please provide as with an answer...naa ba nangutana sa imo sa thread na ni about the negative attitude sa taga-Davao nimo na friend? if so, show us. kay wala mand gud ko nakakita...to be fair lang...at least we can establish na objective imong motive, na you just provided a straight answer to a straight query...

kay kung out of the blue lang nimo gi-bring up ang attitude sa wala'y labot nimo na friend from Davao, then that is malicious and questionable ang motive...if dili to panlibak sa imo, hala, basi daghan ka masakitan ana without you knowing it...

[Mald|3Ta]

ang uban dre ba kong wala btaw mo masulti nga nindot maypa mo hilom mo.

d mo mahuman kong magpalabi mo, dawaton nalang jud ang kamautoran nga naa jud mas labaw pa sa usa ana ra man na ka simple maka daot baya ng pride nga sobra

den kana sad mga nonsense au og comment ayaw daw mo cge post kay magdungag sa samok maski way koneksyon ang istorya i batbat jud

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