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  1. #371

    Quote Originally Posted by Farirah View Post
    and like whats your point of posting the relevance of this? are these people represented the cross section of market who are after urban living in style? i come from the state capital city of aus and we are enjoying windfall of property boom spreading out to suburban cities. and these included continued med to highrise apartments developments. if there are losers who are not happy with their investments, the general market were happy and they continued to stimulate property boom.

    by you indication, cdo city is not ready for the kind of industry. it will have to go to the direction of horizontal development. it is still a small city by pop standards of philippines cities. or maybe medium size
    do I have to spell out the relevance for you? go figure that out yourself.
    As I said, condo/apartment living is not "living in style". read my post again.
    High Rise developers are "always" the winners. High Rise Buyers/Investors are just riding the wave.
    And developers have "really" good marketing departments.

    I think CDO, MisOr, NorMin has plenty of space at the moment. The income from industries is significant and the population is not that big.

    cheers,
    Bisaya Dako

  2. #372
    Quote Originally Posted by bisayadakoo View Post
    The tax contribution of Region 10/NorMin cannot be ignored. But it's the same scenario. NorMin generates a lot of income from industries. But NorMin gets little from the Manila Gov't. This has been like this since Phividec started and that was a long time ago.
    firstly he was speaking on the income of the city that earns P3bn annual, internal revenue share has not been claimed for 3 years. what about cdo city?

    And the fact is, Hanjin is making Phividec earn more. And if the Rail system goes ahead, then CIC will be earning more. Because Rail system is far more efficient than hundreds of trucks. In effect, keeping the NorMin Highway last longer.
    since when is the fact about hanjin started earning and paying revenues to pividec? whats ther rail sys for the trucks for? transport products out of pividec? isnt it more expensive bringin it somewhere away for shipment than use the port of phividec? other manufacturing indusry have their own private wharves? and right the highway have to be kept up to last longer and its cheaper that way i guess.

    To me, per capita indicator is far more important than how big the region is making. The higher the per capita, the better the living standard of the people. And when the living standard is higher, that would mean equal distribution of wealth and a happier people. No stingy employers who take advantage of cheap labor.

    cheers,
    Bisaya Dako
    i could agree halfway. i dont agreeon higher standard of living would also mean equal distribution of wealth unless you explain further

  3. #373
    Quote Originally Posted by bisayadakoo View Post
    do I have to spell out the relevance for you? go figure that out yourself.
    As I said, condo/apartment living is not "living in style". read my post again.
    High Rise developers are "always" the winners. High Rise Buyers/Investors are just riding the wave.
    And developers have "really" good marketing departments.

    I think CDO, MisOr, NorMin has plenty of space at the moment. The income from industries is significant and the population is not that big.

    cheers,
    Bisaya Dako
    living in style depends on how much one would spend for comfort and luxury. if one choose to pay for property he's not ready on the vibes of developers, i bet dont jump.

  4. #374
    Quote Originally Posted by Farirah View Post
    firstly he was speaking on the income of the city that earns P3bn annual, internal revenue share has not been claimed for 3 years. what about cdo city?


    since when is the fact about hanjin started earning and paying revenues to pividec? whats ther rail sys for the trucks for? transport products out of pividec? isnt it more expensive bringin it somewhere away for shipment than use the port of phividec? other manufacturing indusry have their own private wharves? and right the highway have to be kept up to last longer and its cheaper that way i guess.


    i could agree halfway. i dont agreeon higher standard of living would also mean equal distribution of wealth unless you explain further
    industries in CIC is like a process. one industry need a product from another, etc. That's how it works in CIC and Phividec in particular. At the moment, when an Iligan industry needs a particular product from a Phividec industry, they have to ship it by boat or trucks. If you live in Canberra (which you claimed you are from a capital city of OZ), you don't see much what a boat looked like because you are in the middle of NSW. You see a boat travels very slow. So it takes a while to get your product to say Iligan. Railway system solved that problem (I'm sure you've seen a cargo train in OZ), many passes through Canberra. Trucks maybe quicker than trains but the volume it can carry is way too small compared to trains.

    OoT, so how long have you been in Canberra?

    cheers,
    Bisaya Dako

  5. #375
    Quote Originally Posted by Farirah View Post
    living in style depends on how much one would spend for comfort and luxury. if one choose to pay for property he's not ready on the vibes of developers, i bet dont jump.
    so how many % of the people of Mindanao can afford to live in Luxury? Is hearing humping like a beaver above you a luxury? Do you put-up or shut-up with that problem?
    As I said, builders have "really" good marketing dept. I rather spend my money on a free-standing house than living/investing in a highrise.

    cheers,
    Bisaya Dako

  6. #376
    Quote Originally Posted by bisayadakoo View Post
    industries in CIC is like a process. one industry need a product from another, etc. That's how it works in CIC and Phividec in particular. At the moment, when an Iligan industry needs a particular product from a Phividec industry, they have to ship it by boat or trucks. If you live in Canberra (which you claimed you are from a capital city of OZ), you don't see much what a boat looked like because you are in the middle of NSW. You see a boat travels very slow. So it takes a while to get your product to say Iligan. Railway system solved that problem (I'm sure you've seen a cargo train in OZ), many passes through Canberra. Trucks maybe quicker than trains but the volume it can carry is way too small compared to trains.

    OoT, so how long have you been in Canberra?

    cheers,
    Bisaya Dako
    firstly, i said state capital city and not capital city of aus or act.

    if you meant raw materials on manufacturing, i guess it needs a network of farm to market roads or something like that. and not a single rail line traversing straightway between iligan and cdo. bukidnon line should have been priority too for its pineapple,etc. we transport our product interstate by heavy cargo train for long trips to north and west. mainly cargo trailers to eastern states. the distance of transporting here cannot be compared to the whole stretch of iliga cdo. the cities are just too close by comparison

  7. #377
    Siguro ang pagtukod ug mga condominiums sa mga big cities sama sa Metro Manila, Cebu, ug Davao kay necessity. Tungod kay daghan kaayo ug mga tawo naga dagsa aning mga syudara, kinahanglan na mag conserve ug yuta mao vertical na ang mga puloy-anan. Pero ana man gyud bisag asa ka muadto. Big cities, compared sa mga gagmay nga siyudad, tend to have vertical residences.

  8. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by rocketvision View Post
    Pasensya ka na, but as far as we are concerned for our place it's not the issue of which is better, but when someone attempts to sow intrigue na unfair and unjust I assure you it will not be tolerated, in this thread or anywhere else.

    I believe you can understand our reaction, just emphatize kung buhaton na sa imo or sa imong lugar sigurado dili gyud ka mahimuot and would rather defend your right and clarify the facts from malicious intentions.

    As you may notice with our position especially with Davao folks is to inform people here with facts and accuracy as much as possible, I believe the people concerned that you would address to are those that sow intrigue and inaccuracy at the expense of others because the most appropriate thing to do is to have it corrected, and that's what we will do.


    I believe there may be no need to make another post on which city is better as it's unnecessary and will just trigger irrelevant divisions, might as well encourage more mature perspectives instead. However, I understand your position and thanks for reminding.

    Usa ra ang Mindanao.

    I understand. On the other hand, i could learn a lot from the discussion... winks!

    Im from CDO city, if i am given a chance to live either of the two, i rather chose CDO because its a small city and ive heard that Davao has a curfew which i dont like. Also, this Death Squad makes me so scared. What if im mistakenly pinpointed by someone that i am a drug pusher, tsugi ang labas ko nun, lol... That is my own opinion lang ha, im not picking an argument here, hehe... educate me here if im wrong.


    PEACE !!!

  9. #379
    Quote Originally Posted by bisayadakoo View Post
    so how many % of the people of Mindanao can afford to live in Luxury? *Is hearing humping like a beaver above you a luxury? Do you put-up or shut-up with that problem?
    As I said, builders have "really" good marketing dept. I rather spend my money on a free-standing house than living/investing in a highrise.

    cheers,
    Bisaya Dako
    do you think marketing would limit on mindanao market? if you speaking for cdo, the city is not davao which enjoying the industry boom at the moment.

    *well i dont care where you live and how you live by the insight of your perception. we have a good experiences and happy just like anyone else i know.

    marketing is like a game. you have to know the product before thinking of getting on it. like any game you know when its fair and when its not to you. if youre naive, find right people who could give good advise

  10. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by Farirah View Post
    firstly, i said state capital city and not capital city of aus or act.

    if you meant raw materials on manufacturing, i guess it needs a network of farm to market roads or something like that. and not a single rail line traversing straightway between iligan and cdo. bukidnon line should have been priority too for its pineapple,etc. we transport our product interstate by heavy cargo train for long trips to north and west. mainly cargo trailers to eastern states. the distance of transporting here cannot be compared to the whole stretch of iliga cdo. the cities are just too close by comparison
    OoT, So which capital city are you from? Are you from Perth? Been to Perth once. Went to Rottnest Island, it's nice. Didn't see any condo though

    though pinapple is signicant, but that is very tiny compared to what Phividec is transporting. Phividec is not a single company. It's an Industrial Estate.

    You still don't get why Rail system is very significant in CIC. I leave that to you to figure out.

    the road system between bugo-bukidnon is not a problem at the moment. del-monte partly takes care of that.

    I know a bit about the transport system in OZ. Road-Trains (towing 3 or 4 or 5, 18 wheeler trucks) is significant when no more roads. But 1km (or more) long trains is the king in transport.

    cheers,
    Bisaya Dako

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