Faith ALONE can save us?

[boxingfan529]

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then if faith alone can save, why you guys keep on going to your church or fellowship?
why you guys keep on giving contribution to your pastors "IF FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE"?
why you guys still love your partners and children "IF FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE"?

that EPHESIANS 2 is take wrongly and interpreted by people want to escape obligations when serving GOD.

by believing that FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE is a clear sign of choosing a RELIGION that will tolerate their works which is not biblical.

Peace!

rcruman, if you read my explanation about faith alone then you wouldn't be confused with the question above.

good works is the confirmation of being saved. if i am saying that I am saved but I see that my life doesn't equate the fruits of the Spirit then there could be something wrong. for sure, i could say that i am not saved. it's like an apple tree not producing apples. if one is a True Believer (saved by Faith and enthroned by the Holy Spirit already as said in eph 1:13-14) then it is but natural to present that result into good works. Again, good works confirms ones salvation.

if you are saved, you will be fellowshipping to people who are saved - that's the reason for going to church.

if you are saved, you will gave to the work of ministry so that the amount you gave can finance in some way to reach out to other people who are not yet saved.

if you are saved, you will follow what Christ taught in the Bible as a result of your faith.

those things i mentioned are biblically taught and logically easy to understand.

Thought to Ponder: if one can be saved by good works, then Christ should not have died in the cross because what's the purpose? Jesus said, 'it is finished'. He is the ultimate 'LAMB OF GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD'.

[boxingfan529]

and this is why i am agnostic.

being agnostic is like not being sure.

but of course, you can be sure and God want us to be sure.

[tokidoki]

you're talking about ignoticism (someone who only believes in god if and only IF it is proven he exists), which is a completely different branch of belief from agnosticism (although for some reason it is considered a type of agnoticism).

these are relatively new concepts. ignoticsm existed because it was noted that agnostics do not fall in the category of atheists because we are not completely devoid of the belief of the existence of a higher being.

kung baga in my own summary of the issue i would say: "i believe that there is a god just not in the way religions define a god."

[boxingfan529]

so what type of agnosticism are you? what do you personally believe.

[tokidoki]

mild agnostic dude.

[boxingfan529]

what's your inclination of your mild agnosticism?

[Soul Doctor]

then if faith alone can save, why you guys keep on going to your church or fellowship?
why you guys keep on giving contribution to your pastors "IF FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE"?
why you guys still love your partners and children "IF FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE"?

that EPHESIANS 2 is take wrongly and interpreted by people want to escape obligations when serving GOD.

by believing that FAITH ALONE CAN SAVE is a clear sign of choosing a RELIGION that will tolerate their works which is not biblical.

Peace!

So Faith alone can not save. You need the Bible too. HA ha ha.
And you also need PEACE (not just at the end of your posts)

[Soul Doctor]

being agnostic is like not being sure.

but of course, you can be sure and God want us to be sure.

Pagchure oi!
How sure are you that this is what God wants?
If God wanted us to believe, He simply show himself to us.
Why need to complicate things.
He should have left a writing on the wall or something.

[Soul Doctor]

you're talking about ignoticism (someone who only believes in god if and only IF it is proven he exists), which is a completely different branch of belief from agnosticism (although for some reason it is considered a type of agnoticism).

these are relatively new concepts. ignoticsm existed because it was noted that agnostics do not fall in the category of atheists because we are not completely devoid of the belief of the existence of a higher being.

kung baga in my own summary of the issue i would say: "i believe that there is a god just not in the way religions define a god."

Amen to that (last line only)!

[inkubuz]

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