What matters the most when hiring a programmer?

[BadDudes]

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We hire programmers with diploma because its a company policy !!!!!!!!!!!11

[psyd_1]

We hire programmers with diploma because its a company policy !!!!!!!!!!!11

reality bites! i knew some coders who weren't able to finished a degree but hell yeah they're indeed good programmers!

[dlanyer77]

reality bites! i knew some coders who weren't able to finished a degree but hell yeah they're indeed good programmers!

Absolutely correct!

If I can turn back the time, I never take up a 4 years course instead I will start coding after taking up a crash course in programming. My parents could save money and me saves time. I love doing the dirty works (hardcore - solving puzzles) and I learn all this before I take a degree for compliance purposes but it's a huge mistake until I met a person who doesn't had a diploma that has 6x higher salary than mine. Isn't that amazing?

If we go into competition like having a job abroad then I bet it would be the programmer that's taking the lead. Managers? If they're so lucky then perhaps they can still be a manager abroad but it's a 10% chances being hired as a manager. most of my friends who became an IT managers here in Pinas got a low salary abroad where all the rest of my friend who were an excellent programmers and only having a crash course (without a degree) were earning 8x bigger than IT managers from Pinas working abroad.

I’m not trying to vaporize the managers here but I’m just citing an empirical basis where a group of people struggling to make the difference of what they have and haven't.

Also, it is not to discourage not to take a degree. However, if you are decided to have a degree please don't forget to stand what you must know (be technically skilled). Don’t be too confident with your diploma, it will only embarrassed you school and the community where you belong if you’re not capable of doing what is expected.

Attitudes were in born. It is acquired in the childhood years. Passion is in your heart it is acquired if you love doing things you desire. Things like this were not included in the diploma but you can emplace it to your own as an add-ins to your diploma.

[majer]

Absolutely correct!

If I can turn back the time, I never take up a 4 years course instead I will start coding after taking up a crash course in programming. My parents could save money and me saves time. I love doing the dirty works (hardcore - solving puzzles) and I learn all this before I take a degree for compliance purposes but it's a huge mistake until I met a person who doesn't had a diploma that has 6x higher salary than mine. Isn't that amazing?

Wow! that's amazing! I wonder what companies doesn't require a college degree? Seems hard to believe.

[dlanyer77]

Wow! that's amazing! I wonder what companies doesn't require a college degree? Seems hard to believe.

Precisely, there are lots of companies who hires for attitude and passion rather than a degree. One example for that is Apple computers, this company are paying more attention to what you love and they considered that criteria as relevant not irrelevant. Try to look at their products, it’s pretty damn good. If you happen to mingle with any group of hardcore programmers here in Cebu you probably know what companies were having these criteria because these guys are having a very high salary while not having a degree.

It might be amazing to the untrained eyes but it’s what happens to experts.

Your naive and religious beliefs will lead you someday to the real world (the reality).

Have a nice day!

[iCharleston]

Most employer seek for experience.. but for me most important thing is to have passion in programming.. in IT world.. you need to enjoy programming in order to survive... I met lots of great programmers that didn't finish college.. but they have passion.. and they became great programmers.. hope this would help thanks..


TheGame,

[estoyra]

for me having a degree, a person had survived d holistic training to become a programmer, some1 who dreamed not only to become 1 but also to improve and lead a team...

kung ganahan ko muhire ug programmer ofkors pilion nko ang maayo bisag way diploma BUT kutob ra sya ana programmer dli nko sya ipromote on a higher rank ky diha man sya maayo, so i align nko sya kng asa sya maayo... pero dats not a reality, time will come mangambisyon mana sya mapromote ug mumanage which i doubt kaya nya kng wla syay holistic training...

honestly, if your a programmer, do u want to be 1 4ever? code til u die?

[dlanyer77]

for me having a degree, a person had survived d holistic training to become a programmer, some1 who dreamed not only to become 1 but also to improve and lead a team...

kung ganahan ko muhire ug programmer ofkors pilion nko ang maayo bisag way diploma BUT kutob ra sya ana programmer dli nko sya ipromote on a higher rank ky diha man sya maayo, so i align nko sya kng asa sya maayo... pero dats not a reality, time will come mangambisyon mana sya mapromote ug mumanage which i doubt kaya nya kng wla syay holistic training...

honestly, if your a programmer, do u want to be 1 4ever? code til u die?

Holistic training? I don’t think a degree can prove it. If you’re a lazy type of person who’s just making your programming career a stepping stone toward becoming a manager then that reasoning is befitted. We all have ambition but it doesn’t define a path towards a managerial position. It’s like you’re saying that the only way to show-up is to become a manager. That’s absolutely opposite; there are too many ways to show-up. Like for example I might find a method on how develop a system that is 99.99% bugs free. Eventually, you become a star so you show up and I consider that more than an accomplishment of becoming a manager. Do you see now how different we represent ambition?

[BadDudes]

As far as I know .. a whole lot of good programmers who never finished college but then again there are a lots and lots of good programmers also who also had diplomas .. so basically its not about whos got the brain. Its the reality in our country that most company requires a diploma and maybe there are some who are just lucky enough to have a job without diploma ...

[estoyra]

those lucky 1s will stay as programmers with no room for promotion... reality bites guys...

@dlanyer77: so wer/wat can u do 2 gain a holistic training?