What matters the most when hiring a programmer?

[manick]

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OT nice thread for aspiring programmers like me

[dlanyer77]

Let me return the topic. Hehehe!

Attitude, passion and quality fanatics. Those were my criteria. Not all but some graduates I encountered were only good in something that is less significant to what I expected. To become a good programmer you don’t need a diploma. All you need is your heart. Most companies take less attention with diploma instead they are more focused to number of years exposure because they don’t risk their organization to become a training ground for newbies. Eventually, newbies aren’t productive unless you had a super fantastic manager who did the entire job for them. A meticulous company who struggles for profit in a short period of time will never allow a child to be part of the game.

So start coding now!

[pikapika2501]

I still prefer college graduate. Hindi naman sa descriminasyon but I did think and was trying to digest all opinions that I had read.

But the reason why I prefer college grad kasi eh dahil corporate world ang papasukan eh dapat may corporate attitude, corporate skill etc...

Hindi naman sa nangangahulugang pag wala kang tinapos eh wala ka na. Pero come to think of it, diba pag mahal mo ang ibon mo eh bibili ka nang magandang kulungan. Magandang kapares(asawa) at masasarap na meals(bird feeds) para sa kanya. Lahat ng arte e ilalagay mo diba.

So, ang attitude ko kasi eh dahil mahal ko ang work ko. Monthly e naiinspire akong bumili ng damet (mga 400php sana isa [syempre tipid] pero kung walang budget e save muna).... bali gusto ko yung pinopormahan ko yung trabaho ko at gusto kong gwapo ako sa loob nun. Syempre pa, gusto ko rin yung gwapo ang trabaho ko (overall this matters).

Syempre kung gwapo ka na at gwapo ang trabaho mo. Syempre makikita nung boss mo at ng mga colleagues mo na isa kang magandang modelo. At kung may mga clients eh maiisip nilang maganda kang e-harap sa mga yun.

So, kung pansinin nating mabuti eh ang opportunity eh open sayo. Wag nating hayaang mawala ang kahit onting part ng opportunity natin. Dapat ang pinapagwapo natin eh ang career natin. This involves getting a college degree.

Pero sa mga hindi pa graduate eh talagang sipag at tiyaga. Kasi hindi rin naman ako nadaliang makatapos eh. Pero kung madali sa inyo eh pinagpala na kayo talaga. (tutoo nyan eh hindi lahat ng mahal ko sa buhay eh tapos na. pati narin aking mga kaibigan na close sakin. Pero sobrang simple namin at inaaspire naming lahat na makaGraduate. So far eh ang utol ko na lang na isa ang hindi nakakagraduate. isang taon ang agwat nya sakin. kaya ito't nag iipon ako dahil isang subject na lang sya at hindi pa na-ooffer yung subject. ipon mode muna ako).

(nga pala if you want to read some of my post from other forum about how I became a programmer. Try visiting this link sa espiya.net its:
http://www.espiya.net/forum/index.ph...4058.msg458235 )
hindi yan ganun ka updated pero 2006 ko pa ata pinost yan. Pero nakakatuwa lang kasi nung nabasa ko ulit. wala pa'kong updates about this month... malaki rin kasi nangyari sa life ko this month about my programming career.

Nga pala. tama talaga sinabi nila. Programming is not about the being good. It is all about passion (thats my opinion).

[bigeasy]

Based on my working experience... not generalizing here.

Worked with a guy who had no degree. Good programmer. Bad attitude. Had a chip on his shoulder about not having a degree. Seemed very suspicious and defensive toward me and most people who had degrees. I really wanted to like the guy but he was hard to work with, kindof a solo artist. No teamwork.

Best programmer i worked with. Very articulate, Very confident, not the most technical person. Didn't care what programming language he used. His thing was, 'tell me the problem, i will fix it'. Had a good sense of humor too, especially when we screwed up.

Best programmer I hired was a young kid who had a 2-year degree. His experience was kinda scattered, not really focused on one technology. During the interview, i asked him what his job function will be. He could have said something about writing great programs in so-and-so language in this-and-that platform. Instead, he said... 'to make the jobs of the users as easy as possible'. I knew i would hire him after he said that.

What matters to me when hiring a programmer?
Skills are important but skills can be learned.
I think it's all about attitude.

[javapenguin]

What matters to me when hiring a programmer?
Skills are important but skills can be learned.
I think it's all about attitude.

Hire for attitude and train for skill, I agree with this.

[simoncpu]

Hire for attitude and train for skill, I agree with this.

Parehas ni Naruto gud... he's not intelligent as Sasuke and Sakura, but he'll become the next Hokage because of his can-do attitude...

On the flip side, mora sad ug ani nga choice: asa imong ganahan, gwapa nga dili brayt or brayt nga panget? hehehehe....

[silent-kill]

Hire for attitude and train for skill, I agree with this.

i think attitude applies in all field

anyway those with degrees will get better chance of promotion and increases...

most of the time this will be the attitude of people..

degree holder: dam n that guy with no degree has almost the same salary with me grrr..

guy with no degree: dam n those guys with degrees think their boss!!

we should all read Dilbert heehe

[javapenguin]

Parehas ni Naruto gud... he's not intelligent as Sasuke and Sakura, but he'll become the next Hokage because of his can-do attitude...

On the flip side, mora sad ug ani nga choice: asa imong ganahan, gwapa nga dili brayt or brayt nga panget? hehehehe....

O.T.

kinsa c naruto,sasuke & sakura?

about the flip side, mura lisod na ang panget nga ma gwapa peru mas naa pa chance ang dili brayt ma brayt brayt pa,ug sigi e encourage. Ari nalang ta sa gwapa diba? hehehe

[cen]

O.T.

kinsa c naruto,sasuke & sakura?

about the flip side, mura lisod na ang panget nga ma gwapa peru mas naa pa chance ang dili brayt ma brayt brayt pa,ug sigi e encourage. Ari nalang ta sa gwapa diba? hehehe

@javapenguin: Naruto is the protagonist of the Naruto Anime

[simoncpu]

@javapenguin: Naruto is the protagonist of the Naruto Anime

Yepp... it's a nice anime... naay similarities:
ninja == programmer
Naruto == ninja with great attitude
Rock Lee == ninja who worked hard to overcome his handicap (he can't use ninjutsu and genjutsu)