What matters the most when hiring a programmer?

[silent-kill]

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Bill Gates is a thief. He stole ideas from Xerox, Apple, and other companies. He didn't even made MS-DOS. He just bought 86-DOS at a cheap price, monopolized the industry by riding on IBM, and the rest is history...

He's just a shrewed businessman...

[ simon.cpu ]

dam n bill gates is 3vil and an opportunist like every other businessman out there.... but his f*cking rich man... we can't do no sh*t bout that lol

if this was an MMORPG bill gates a beta player who uses haxx to pwnd th n00bs ahah

[cebugdev]

Diploma proves that you went thru shit and survives, without diploma is like taking a shortcut and believing 'someday i will become that bill guy from microsoft'.
In real world, you dont expect to become a programmer for life.. someday the company will promote you to become leader/manager and will test your tolerance sa pressure. Even junior or senior engineers maka feel pressure specially when you are developing an ACTUAL product to be release on the market (You had to have quality and beat the deadline else sales oppurtunity is lost).

In business, investors think primarily of their investments, programmers as asset, If I am to offer to a client that i can do this kind of software i will present some things to support my claim, eventually client will ask for the background of all stakeholders involved - Project Managers, Project leaders, Engineers, Testers, And ofcourse i will give the best feedback/bacground to the client to get the contract. Presenting something that will generate doubt to client will endanger the deal.

Imagine if client is a Japanese firm, and project is a firmware for a cellphone... Japanese are strict on requirements and quality.

[softtouch]

Bill Gates is a thief. He stole ideas from Xerox, Apple, and other companies. He didn't even made MS-DOS. He just bought 86-DOS at a cheap price, monopolized the industry by riding on IBM, and the rest is history...

He's just a shrewed businessman...

[ simon.cpu ]

And then? Whats wrong with that? I would do the same when I could make some billions of dollars...
What you use at home? Windows? Yes? So you are using the software of a thief... hm...

[moz_k2]

Try to give the applicants technical exam.
Let them solve the problem in any language they want...
With time limit of course pra pressure..

Nka agi ko ani sa una..hehehe

[silent-kill]

Diploma proves that you went thru shit and survives, without diploma is like taking a shortcut and believing 'someday i will become that bill guy from microsoft'.
In real world, you dont expect to become a programmer for life.. someday the company will promote you to become leader/manager and will test your tolerance sa pressure. Even junior or senior engineers maka feel pressure specially when you are developing an ACTUAL product to be release on the market (You had to have quality and beat the deadline else sales oppurtunity is lost).

In business, investors think primarily of their investments, programmers as asset, If I am to offer to a client that i can do this kind of software i will present some things to support my claim, eventually client will ask for the background of all stakeholders involved - Project Managers, Project leaders, Engineers, Testers, And ofcourse i will give the best feedback/bacground to the client to get the contract. Presenting something that will generate doubt to client will endanger the deal.

Imagine if client is a Japanese firm, and project is a firmware for a cellphone... Japanese are strict on requirements and quality.

you got a point there bro,.. you cant freelance your way to big companies. competition is tough, specially on the higher ranks. you'll need that extra edge.. a degree or a master's degree to get promoted or at least show the potential to fit the job

[simoncpu]

And then? Whats wrong with that? I would do the same when I could make some billions of dollars...
What you use at home? Windows? Yes? So you are using the software of a thief... hm...

I use FreeBSD and Linux. My laptop runs Mac OS X. This is out of topic, but it sure is funny when someone makes incorrect assumptions...

[softtouch]

I use FreeBSD and Linux. My laptop runs Mac OS X. This is out of topic, but it sure is funny when someone makes incorrect assumptions...

Good for you. I just don't understand why you are attacking Microsoft in this topic, which has not much to do with Microsoft.

[simoncpu]

Diploma proves that you went thru shit and survives, without diploma is like taking a shortcut and believing 'someday i will become that bill guy from microsoft'.
In real world, you dont expect to become a programmer for life.. someday the company will promote you to become leader/manager and will test your tolerance sa pressure. Even junior or senior engineers maka feel pressure specially when you are developing an ACTUAL product to be release on the market (You had to have quality and beat the deadline else sales oppurtunity is lost).

In business, investors think primarily of their investments, programmers as asset, If I am to offer to a client that i can do this kind of software i will present some things to support my claim, eventually client will ask for the background of all stakeholders involved - Project Managers, Project leaders, Engineers, Testers, And ofcourse i will give the best feedback/bacground to the client to get the contract. Presenting something that will generate doubt to client will endanger the deal.

Imagine if client is a Japanese firm, and project is a firmware for a cellphone... Japanese are strict on requirements and quality.

Diploma doesn't really prove anything. I worked on a "firmware" too but... but... I need to stop writing because this is a public forum.

All I can say is that diploma doesn't prove anything... Cge lang ta storya dire sa forum. Show me the code.

[simoncpu]

Good for you. I just don't understand why you are attacking Microsoft in this topic, which has not much to do with Microsoft.

Wala lang... it wasn't my intention to attack anyone. I was just typing my thoughts and nothing more. Peace.

[javapenguin]

Thread becomes interesting when it's out of topic, hehehe. I use Linux and it's the preferred platform in my workplace. Some companies like programmers who are comfortable using Linux and especially open source softwares.