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    Communication skills is important. In this way you'll be able to deliver/share your thoughts and idea to your client in a way that there's no misunderstanding. If dont have this, you can be only a plain programmer - a coder that do what the designer want him to do, you cant be a sofware engineer.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by softtouch_ph View Post
    No, I totally disagree the sentence regarding collage graduate.
    If I would hire a programmer, I would not care a little what collage graduation he/she has. I would look at his/her experience, how he/she react to certain programming related questions.

    Anyway, thats my opinion.
    I've ask my boss month ago and he told me the same thing...

  3. #13
    attitude + experience

  4. #14
    its not that important but.. if i have to choose

    between a person with a diploma vs a person without a diploma, given that they have the same experience/expertise... ill choose the one with the diploma.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by silent-kill View Post
    its not that important but.. if i have to choose

    between a person with a diploma vs a person without a diploma, given that they have the same experience/expertise... ill choose the one with the diploma.
    What if the one without diploma belongs to your fifth criteria?

    5. 21-25 years old female with pleasing personality at least 5.2 in height with full photo on biodata

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by javapenguin View Post
    What if the one without diploma belongs to your fifth criteria?

    5. 21-25 years old female with pleasing personality at least 5.2 in height with full photo on biodata
    now thats a different story..basically it overloads all other critera... hahahaha..

  7. #17
    yeah thats another story... and you dont get shortlisted if you don't have that very important qualification.

  8. #18
    If given the chance to choose programmers, my requirements would be:
    - High IQ, high intuition, and the ability to see the future.
    - High risk tolerance; it's very frustrating to see "senior" developers refuse to innovate and change even if an existing system is a failure.
    - High creativity or high organization ability. Usually, you can't find a creative person who's organized and vice-versa, but I assure you that your team would be successful if you combine creative and organized people in a single team. They might constantly fight on technical issues, but the end result is quality output.


    [ simon.cpu ]

  9. #19
    nyc ka simon...sakto gyud ka

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by javapenguin View Post
    I totally agree with you guys but how come most of the hiring you see in the newspaper ads require at least a BS degree?
    There are skills that are not learned in school. But schools builds the foundation..
    Importante ghapon ang education since most of the things learned from school are sooner or later magamitan sa actual field, that is if naminaw jd mo..
    Imagine kng wla kay idea sa Data structures and design? How about Design Patterns? or software engineering, or how about just plained old OS concepts.,

    YUP of course maka BUILD mo ug software without proper education, But imagine your code.. Probably
    full of Hacks, tweaks, Design problem or worst loop holes.

    Anyways ANYone these days has the right to call them selves PROGRAMMERS, sayun naman gud ang mga language karn, Displaying an Image is just an API away and developers does not even care how JPEG was encoded/decoded or how an Mpeg,Mpeg2, Mp3,Mp4 differs?

    aside from technical skills, kelangan pd ma train ;
    a) Descipline
    b) Patience
    c) Analytical skills
    d) communication skills, including interaction.

    Hiring a programmer is investing on them NOT by their technical skills alone but also their personality, Its all about busines guys, sooner or later mahimu mo ug MANAGERs or leaders and your decision matters sa dagan sa company. Or basin nag damgo ra mo na Programmer ra mo 4ever.
    Your transcript at least show a "shadow" of who you are, but not everything.

    School helps build up things Mao nay reason naay education. And dli na na malalis.
    Persons like Gates or Jobs na mga drop out BUILD their company wlay cla Nangapply and its a different story.

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