Unsa may 7th day of the week? Sabado o Domingo?

[NASYO]

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thanks bro rcruman. i'm 0.000000001% convinced na.

[geoseph]

The Jewish Sabbath starts on the sunset of Friday and ends on the sunset of Saturday.

"Though it is commonly said to be the Saturday of each week, it is observed from sundown on Friday until the appearance of three stars in the sky on Saturday night."
[ Shabbat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
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A Typical Jewish Sabbath (Informational Only)

"At about 2PM or 3PM on Friday afternoon, observant Jews leave the office to begin Shabbat preparations. The mood is much like preparing for the arrival of a special, beloved guest: the house is cleaned, the family bathes and dresses up, the best dishes and tableware are set, a festive meal is prepared. In addition, everything that cannot be done during Shabbat must be set up in advance: lights and appliances must be set (or timers placed on them, if the household does so), the light bulb in the refrigerator must be removed or unscrewed, so it does not turn on when you open it, and preparations for the remaining Shabbat meals must be made.

Shabbat, like all Jewish days, begins at sunset, because in the story of creation in Genesis Ch. 1, you will notice that it says, "And there was evening, and there was morning, one day." From this, we infer that a day begins with evening, that is, sunset. For the precise time when Shabbat begins and ends in your area, consult the list of candle lighting times provided by the Orthodox Union, by Chabad or by any Jewish calendar.

Shabbat candles are lit and a blessing is recited no later than eighteen minutes before sunset. This ritual, performed by the woman of the house, officially marks the beginning of Shabbat. Two candles are lit, representing the two commandments: zakhor (remember) and shamor (observe), discussed above.

The family then attends a brief evening service (45 minutes - that's brief by Jewish standards - see Jewish Liturgy).

After services, the family comes home for a festive, leisurely dinner. Before dinner, the man of the house recites Kiddush, a prayer over wine sanctifying Shabbat. The usual prayer for eating bread is recited over two loaves of challah, a sweet, eggy bread shaped in a braid. The family then eats dinner. Although there are no specific requirements or customs regarding what to eat, meals are generally stewed or slow cooked items, because of the prohibition against cooking during Shabbat. (Things that are mostly cooked before Shabbat and then reheated or kept warm are OK).
After dinner, the birkat ha-mazon (grace after meals) is recited. Although this is done every day, on Shabbat, it is done in a leisurely manner with many upbeat tunes.

By the time all of this is completed, it may be 9PM or later. The family has an hour or two to talk or study Torah, and then go to sleep.

The next morning Shabbat services begin around 9AM and continue until about noon. After services, the family says kiddush again and has another leisurely, festive meal. A typical afternoon meal is cholent, a very slowly cooked stew... By the time birkat ha-mazon is done, it is about 2PM. The family studies Torah for a while, talks, takes an afternoon walk, plays some checkers, or engages in other leisure activities. A short afternoon nap is not uncommon. It is traditional to have a third meal before Shabbat is over. This is usually a light meal in the late afternoon.

Shabbat ends at nightfall, when three stars are visible, approximately 40 minutes after sunset. At the conclusion of Shabbat, the family performs a concluding ritual called Havdalah (separation, division). Blessings are recited over wine, spices and candles. Then a blessing is recited regarding the division between the sacred and the secular, between Shabbat and the working days, etc."
[ Judaism 101: Shabbat ]

[Soul Doctor]

Pero dili importante ang Sabbath Day.
Ang importante unsa ang imong gibuhat anang adlawa.
Wala lagi ka nagtrabaho og Sabado,
pero tua sad ka sa buwangan
nagwaldas sa imong igpapalit unta og bugas.

Bisan si Jesus didto nila nakit-i og sala.
Sa karaan nga panahon ni Jesus nagsubay ang simbahan sa Sabbath observance.
Stricto sila sa una.
Mao nga si Jesus ilang napasakaan og sumbong
kay nanambal man si Jesus bisan Sabbath day
nga unta bawal man sa ila ang magtrabaho sa adlaw sa tingpahuway.

Ang pagkalansang ni Jesus sa cross
dakog hinungdan ang mga kaparian sa ilang panahon
ug gigamit kini ang Sabbath aron mahimohimoan si Jesus og sala.

Busa ayaw mog tuo anang Sabbath.
Ang importante unsay imong gibuhat anang adlawa.
Wala lagi ka magtrabaho pero gahuboghubog sad ka.

[rcruman]

Pero dili importante ang Sabbath Day.
Ang importante unsa ang imong gibuhat anang adlawa.
Wala lagi ka nagtrabaho og Sabado,
pero tua sad ka sa buwangan
nagwaldas sa imong igpapalit unta og bugas.

Bisan si Jesus didto nila nakit-i og sala.
Sa karaan nga panahon ni Jesus nagsubay ang simbahan sa Sabbath observance.
Stricto sila sa una.
Mao nga si Jesus ilang napasakaan og sumbong
kay nanambal man si Jesus bisan Sabbath day
nga unta bawal man sa ila ang magtrabaho sa adlaw sa tingpahuway.

Ang pagkalansang ni Jesus sa cross
dakog hinungdan ang mga kaparian sa ilang panahon
ug gigamit kini ang Sabbath aron mahimohimoan si Jesus og sala.

Busa ayaw mog tuo anang Sabbath.
Ang importante unsay imong gibuhat anang adlawa.
Wala lagi ka magtrabaho pero gahuboghubog sad ka.

tabla raman og ayawg tuo sa GINOO imo statement bro.
bisag asa man lang nimo puniton ang imo tubag og playing safe kaayo ka kay kung pangutan-on unsay basehan kay dayon likay.


Peace!

[rcruman]

thanks bro rcruman. i'm 0.000000001% convinced na.

look bro nasyo stop this kind of childish act.
I'm not posting here for you to be convince, i don't care if you will be convinced or not.
I'm also posting for those who are reading not just you as the thread starter and the one asking question.
grabeh pud nimog percentage gihatag, bisan pa imo ihatag kay negative kay dili ko maguol.

Peace!

[Soul Doctor]

tabla raman og ayawg tuo sa GINOO imo statement bro.
bisag asa man lang nimo puniton ang imo tubag og playing safe kaayo ka kay kung pangutan-on unsay basehan kay dayon likay.


Peace!

Ngano man wala ba sa bibliya akong gisulti?

[rcruman]

Ngano man wala ba sa bibliya akong gisulti?

then show me the verse bro soul doctor.


Peace!

[Soul Doctor]

then show me the verse bro soul doctor.


Peace!

Mark 3:1-5

Mark 3

1Another time he went into the synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there.

2Some of them were looking for A REASON TO ACCUSE JESUS, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath.

3Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand, "Stand up in front of everyone."

4Then Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they remained silent.

5He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored.

6Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus.

[jouho]

Hello guys,

it is often claimed that "God instituted the Sabbath in Eden" because of the connection between the Sabbath and creation in Exodus 20:11. Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no biblical record of the Sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. Nowhere in Scripture is there any hint that Sabbath-keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses.

The Word of God makes it quite clear that Sabbath observance was a special sign between God and Israel: "And Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain, saying, "Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel: 'You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings and brought you to Myself. Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine'" (Exodus 19:3–5).

“Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed” (Exodus 31:16–17).

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the ten commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel: "And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day" (Deuteronomy 5:15).

Notice the word therefore. God's intent for giving the Sabbath to Israel was not that they would remember creation, but that they would remember their Egyptian slavery and the Lord's deliverance. Note the requirements for Sabbath-keeping: A person placed under that Sabbath law could not leave his home on the Sabbath (Exodus 16:29), he could not build a fire (Exodus 35:3), and he could not cause anyone else to work (Deuteronomy 5:14). A person breaking the Sabbath law was to be put to death (Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32–35).

An examination of New Testament passages shows us four important points: 1) Whenever Christ appears in His resurrected form and the day is mentioned, it is always the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1, 9, 10; Mark 16:9; Luke 24:1, 13, 15; John 20:19, 26). 2) The only time the Sabbath is mentioned from Acts through Revelation it is for evangelistic purposes to the Jews and the setting is usually in a synagogue (Acts chapters 13–1. Paul wrote, "to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews" (1 Corinthians 9:20). Paul did not go to the synagogue to fellowship with and edify the saints, but to convict and save the lost. 3) Once Paul states "from now on I will go to the Gentiles" (Acts 18:6), the Sabbath is never again mentioned. And 4) instead of suggesting adherence to the Sabbath day, the remainder of the New Testament implies the opposite (including the one exception to point 3 above, found in Colossians 2:16).

Looking more closely at point 4 above will reveal that there is no obligation for the New Testament believer to keep the Sabbath, and will also show that the idea of a Sunday "Christian Sabbath" is also unscriptural. As discussed above, there is one time the Sabbath is mentioned after Paul began to focus on the Gentiles, "So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ" (Colossians 2:16–17). The Jewish Sabbath was abolished at the cross where Christ "wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us" (Colossians 2:14).

This idea is repeated more than once in the New Testament: "One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it" (Romans 14:5–6a). "But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You observe days and months and seasons and years" (Galatians 4:9–10).

But some claim that a mandate by Constantine in A.D. 321 "changed" the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. On what day did the early church meet for worship? Scripture never mentions any Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings by believers for fellowship or worship. However, there are clear passages that mention the first day of the week. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that "on the first day of the week the disciples came together to break bread." In 1 Corinthians 16:2 Paul urges the Corinthian believers "on the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper." Since Paul designates this offering as "service" in 2 Corinthians 9:12, this collection must have been linked with the Sunday worship service of the Christian assembly. Historically Sunday, not Saturday, was the normal meeting day for Christians in the church, and its practice dates back to the first century.

The Sabbath was given to Israel, not the church. The Sabbath is still Saturday, not Sunday, and has never been changed. But the Sabbath is part of the Old Testament Law, and Christians are free from the bondage of the Law (Galatians 4:1-26; Romans 6:14). Sabbath keeping is not required of the Christian—be it Saturday or Sunday. The first day of the week, Sunday, the Lord's Day (Revelation 1:10) celebrates the New Creation, with Christ as our resurrected Head. We are not obligated to follow the Mosaic Sabbath—resting, but are now free to follow the risen Christ—serving. The Apostle Paul said that each individual Christian should decide whether to observe a Sabbath rest, “One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind” (Romans 14:5). We are to worship God every day, not just on Saturday or Sunday.

Amen.


Thnx.

[Soul Doctor]

Mark 3:1-5

Mark 3

1Another time he went into the synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there.

2Some of them were looking for A REASON TO ACCUSE JESUS, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath.

3Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand, "Stand up in front of everyone."

4Then Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they remained silent.

5He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored.

6Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus.

Asa na man to si Rc Ruman oi!
Mangayo og verse
unya dili magpasalamat kung tagaan!