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  1. #21

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    kinsa man tuy ni block sa pag gamit sa mga hi tech computer para sa election, dba ang oposisyon man. ngano kaha? kay lisod lalison ang computer. hadlok jud ang oposisyon na mag modernize ta kay di na nya sila ka reklamo kung mapildi ila manok. that's why old skul ghapon ta, so mao ra ghapon ang comelec, dark ages ang system.

  2. #22

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    kinsa man tuy ni block sa pag gamit sa mga hi tech computer para sa election, dba ang oposisyon man. ngano kaha?
    bitaw... if my memory serves me right... I think mura nasakpan man to nga naa depekto ang mga machines og ang software para counting.

  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by slyder
    kinsa man tuy ni block sa pag gamit sa mga hi tech computer para sa election, dba ang oposisyon man. ngano kaha? kay lisod lalison ang computer. hadlok jud ang oposisyon na mag modernize ta kay di na nya sila ka reklamo kung mapildi ila manok.Â* that's why old skul ghapon ta, so mao ra ghapon ang comelec, dark ages ang system.Â*
    Gituyo to ug order ni GMA nga depektoso para di madayun ang computerization.

    Para maka ISANG TAWAG KA LANG. Hello Garci

  4. #24

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    bisag unsa pay proseso ana ..... manikas lang gihapun nang mga hangawa na.

  5. #25

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    Here is also a letter from Patricia:

    "There is still the silent opposition in Cebu. Don’t believe that Gloria won in Cebu fair and square. Right after elections, I overheard two young women and the conversation went like this:

    "Girl 1: I will never serve in another election, this will the first and last election.

    "Girl 2: Why?

    "Girl 1: Because the teacher in charge of the precinct I served forced me to read instead of FPJ or Lacson to read GMA!

    "Imagine, our very own teachers teaching the young ones to lie, to cheat! And they got away with it!

    "There is still the silent opposition just afraid because there is a vigilante group going around the city at night killing people. Please do not reveal my e-mail address."


    Your secret is safe with me; but, honestly, would the vigilantes of Tommy actually kill those who believe that Gloria cheated. I honestly do not think so.


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    "Girl 1: Because the teacher in charge of the precinct I served forced me to read instead of FPJ or Lacson to read GMA!
    hinoon wala tingali ni nahitabo sa amo precinct. tingali ra ako masulti kay dili man ako ang tig-basa... tig tally ra man ko sa blackboard.

    would the vigilantes of Tommy actually kill those who believe that Gloria cheated. I honestly do not think so.
    I hope not sab...

  7. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by FK
    "Girl 1: Because the teacher in charge of the precinct I served forced me to read instead of FPJ or Lacson to read GMA!
    hinoon wala tingali ni nahitabo sa amo precinct. tingali ra ako masulti kay dili man ako ang tig-basa... tig tally ra man ko sa blackboard.

    would the vigilantes of Tommy actually kill those who believe that Gloria cheated. I honestly do not think so.
    I hope not sab...
    whaaat.... hast mga bata, ila na gi gamit sa pamulitika? tsk tsk tsk.. ayaw nalang gamita na sila, mga inocente pa na sila...

  8. #28

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    child labor na bai, bawal na!

  9. #29

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    Ballot boxes missing; ERs tampered, switched
    CONGRESSIONAL COVER-UP OF GLORIA’S POLL FRAUD CAUGHT ON VIDEO

    By Gerry Baldo
    Tuesday, 09 27, 2005





    More concrete evidence of the poll fraud engaged in by President Arroyo and subsequent cover up of the crime have surfaced, with over 150 ballot boxes containing election returns (ERs) from Lanao del Sur, Lanao del Norte and Surigao del Sur found missing at the House of Representatives, which has been tasked to safeguard these ballot boxes and their content. This was reportedly caught on video, as the House security cameras should have caught this.


    According to witnesses who are willing to testify to the ballot box tampering and switching of ERs, these were done with the assistance of the President's congressional allies.


    Also discovered were tampered ballot boxes from Tabagon, Cebu, with the provincial election officer of Cebu, Edwin Cadungog, exposing the massive tampering of ballot boxes through his report submitted to the Presidential Electoral Tribunal (PET).


    Cadungog stressed that most of the padlocks of the 120 old ballot boxes and 103 new ballot boxes used by the town in last year's polls were lost and the inside security seals had been destroyed, noting that 350 of the 360 padlocks of the old ballot boxes and 303 out of the 390 padlocks of the new ballot boxes, or a total of 661 padlocks were lost.


    Lawyer Sixto Brillantes said the opposition camp had expected to get over 200 boxes of




    election returns from the provinces of Lanao del Sur, Lanao del Norte and Surigao del Sur but were able to obtain only 48 boxes, which were retrieved from the House for transfer to the Supreme Court, which is hearing the protest of vice presidential bet former Sen. Loren Legarda.

    Members of the minority bloc in the Lower House said the ballot boxes would likely have been tampered with, as the makeshift stockroom at the Southwing Lobby of Congress had been broken in and left opened several times.

    San Juan Rep. Ronaldo Zamora stressed the opposition bloc has six witnesses who can testify that the ballot boxes stored in the stockroom were “tampered with and switched.”

    “There have been many instances of unauthorized entries to the stockroom. This was where the switching of ballots occurred,” Zamora said during the minority's weekly press conference yesterday.

    He said the six, who had agreed to testify, were used by Mrs. Arroyo's allies when the stockroom was opened on Dec. 24, 2004 to replace the contents of the ballot boxes.

    House Minority Leader Francis Escudero challenged Speaker Jose de Venecia to release the footage of the 24-hour surveillance camera situated near the stockroom.

    Lanao del Sur Rep. Faysah Dumarpa said the House, as the National Board of Canvassers, particularly the committee in charge of ballot boxes, should be held responsible for the missing ballot boxes.

    Rosario Amatong Buendia, director of the Legislative Research Service of the House, said they were in charge of the ballot boxes during the time when it was being canvassed even as she said the ballot boxes could not have been missing, claiming that the room was never opened by her.

    Buendia explained that after the canvassing, the custody of the ballot boxes was turned over to the House Sergeant-at-arms, retired Brig. Gen. Bayani Fabic and to the Philippine National Police Contingent at the House.

    “I don't think that could happen, it could have been miscounted,” Buendia said even as she pointed to the House Sergeant-at-arms, insisting that he should explain this.

    Brillantes said he doesn't have a clue on where to find the missing 152 ballot boxes containing the ERs.

    During the canvassing of votes at the House for the presidential and vice presidential post, members of the opposition called for the Board of Canvassers to counter check the Certificates of Canvass by going to the source documents, the ERs, but this was ignored by Mrs. Arroyo's allies, with the joint chairmen merely noting the objections while refusing to look into the ERs.

    Brilliantes, in a phone interview with Tribune, suspected a grand cover up of the election fraud to protect the President, recounting that even when he asked the Commission on Elections to provide him and his party a certified copy of the poll returns, the Comelec officers insisted on providing him a copy only with the vote count of Vice President Noli de Castro, and not those of Mrs. Arroyo, which Brillantes found too strange, considering that the copies showed have both the presidential and vice presidential vote count, along with the senatorial bets.

    Brillantes, at the same time, said the KNP would also be able to know the extent of the cheating in the case of opposition standard bearer, the late Fernando Poe, Jr.

    “That is more important because in Sen. Legarda's the cheating was not as much as in the case of Poe,” Brillantes said.

    After the canvassing, the ballot boxes, totaling 3,400 were placed inside a makeshift room at the Southwing Lobby of the House until Brillantes came yesterday to retrieve the boxes and bring before the PET for a recount.

    Brillantes explained that the contentious election returns, which were not allowed by the House and the Senate acting as the National Board of Canvassers to be opened and compared with alleged questionable certificates of canvass would now be opened and counted.

    Brillantes also brought five boxes of certificates of canvass and statement of votes from the same three provinces, which would be used initially to compare the number of votes in the ERs to the certificates of canvass.

    Brillantes, however said they decided to bring the 48 ballot boxes containing the ERs and five more containing certificates of canvass and statement of votes, “since these may still get lost in the House.”

    He added they will be filing a petition before the PET to allow them to go back for the re-inventory of the ballot boxes.

    On Friday, the SC gave Legarda's camp the go signal to get the ballot boxes of ERs from Lanao del Sur, Lanao del Norte and Surigao del Sur from the custody of the House of Representatives.

    Brillantes said the ballot boxes will be opened late this week or next week to determine if there are discrepancies in the result by comparing these to the copy of ERs they obtained from the Commission on Elections.

    He said they would also file a petition this week to get the ballot boxes from Cebu, Maguindanao and Pampanga, the bulk of votes where the vice presidential bet is expected to get her “winning votes.”

    Also exposed yesterday was the forcible opening and tampering of ballot boxes carried out in Tabagon, Cebu, which Legarda described as “yet another brazen and bare-faced attempt” at cheating.

    “This is shameless, and only God knows what other operations have been carried out and are being effected as I speak to cover up the massive fraud in the 2004 elections,” Legarda said, noting that this could just be the “tip of the iceberg.”

    “Taken with the Newsbreak report of a break-in at Congress to allegedly tamper with the ballot boxes there, this incident at Tabagon gives us an idea of the immensity of what could be a top-to-bottom effort to cover-up poll fraud,” she stressed.

    She pointed to Edna Carla Arbuyes, the municipal treasurer of Tabagon, saying she should be investigated for causing the unauthorized transfer of the ballot boxes from her office to the Public Service Office building where the tampering was discovered.

    It was in Cebu where massive cheating was alleged to have been committed. Mrs. Arroyo obtained an incredible 1.1 million votes from Cebu alone.

    “Under the circumstances, protestant Loren is not prepared to take this Tabagon incident as a simple theft… in view of the critical importance of the province of Cebu to the instant electoral protest, the unreasonable delay in the discovery of the reported breach of security and the nature of the reported breach of security,” the lawyers said.

    Brilliantes also pointed to a massive cover-up operation, given the set of circumstances analyzed, saying this was already evident when the police and the Isafp agents raided the rented room of former National Bureau of Investigation documents expert Segismundo Tabayoyong and carted away the election documents belonging to the opposition coalition.

    Pastilan. Human gibinaboy ang impeachment process, grabe na sad niong gihimo sa tikasan nga si Gloria Arroyo sa pag "magic" sa mga ballot box. Bagaa jud sa nawong uy. Human palayasa si Garci, Pag patak-um sa baba ni Gonzales sa mga anomaliya nga kontrata, kini na sad daring kaayo nga pag switch ug pag tamper sa ballot box. Grabe wa na gyuy uwaw manikas ang mga tikasan uy.

  10. #30

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    OT: ahhhh...it's so nice to be in power. suya lang mu!

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