Aboitizland: Ethical or Not?

[taga_ipil]

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faet... nag bayad ka then kung imo kuhaon 50% lang ibalik? WTF...

in-ani na ba jud ka nawong ug kwarta ang mga tawo karun!

regardless kung unsa ang contract but 50% deduction way too big...
mura man ug mapugos nalang ka ug sabay sa tama...

[Soul Doctor]

Aboitizland: Ethical or Not?

A friend of mine shared to me about their bad experience with Aboitizland and I know if the officers of Aboitizland will have a chance to read this thread and they should know the customer that I am talking about.

Anyway, here’s the summary of the story: My friend decided to purchase one of the lots of Kishanta project of Aboitizland in Talisay, Cebu. My freind and the sales person of Abotizland have agreed on the price, lot area and other details and my friend decided to reserved and started paying the monthly amortization payment.. while Aboitizland is on the process of finalizing the contract, after two months that my friend paying the monthly amortization they were informed that there has been a discrepancy in the lot specifications and will involve changes in the lot area and in effect they were informed that the purchase price will also change.

Now here comes the problem: My friend was disappointed about the changes on the pricing and they feel that this is very unfair on their part because the contract was not finalized (Aboitizland said that it will take several months to process and finalize blah blah) and they thought that everything was in order.

To make the story short, my friend is trying to negotiate if Aboitizland can give them the same price and they tried to communicate to the management team of Aboitizland and approach the customer service manager but then at first, Aboitizland was really pushing for the new price and will replace the original agreement with the new contract price. Now, my friend is not happy because Aboitizland is assuming that since they are the developer they can command if there is a new price and apply to their customer without any consultation but my friend has decided that they will not continue investing a lot from Aboitizland anymore because they lost confidence in dealing with the Aboitizland customer service manager because for them a buying experience should be a happy one.

Now Aboitizland customer service manager realizes that my friend is trying to escalate the issue to the Aboitizes. They have submitted a counter-offer to re-consider of the same price and they also stated that if they will continue to withdraw the investment then as per policy “kuno” they will not refund. But it's too late, what if my friend agreed to make the additional payments the first time that Aboitizland informed them that there are changes? Wouldn't you think that they will feel deceived if they found out later that Aboitizland still can leave the price as is? Aboitizland cannot blame them if they are losing confidence in the investment and in the company as a whole.

To end the story, my friend is very consistent NOT to continue the investment and end up that Aboitizland will only refund 50% of the investment.

I would like also to hear your opinions and thoughts about this and asking help from fellow Istorya Dot Net who are familiar with the law in the Philippines if there is a protection of property investors from the developers.

My friend believes that it is very unethical to make changes on what was initially agreed between them and Aboitizland specially that the contract was not materialized and the rules regarding refunds are on the premise that everything is in order and my freind thinks that there is an exemption in their case since Aboitizland was the one who initiated the unexpected changes along the way and if they had known that they will encounter such an experience they would have invested their money in the purchase of other lots offered by the industry and be able to sleep at night knowing they made the right choice.

Quote by Laurence J. Peter
“There is only one thing more painful than learning from experience, and that is not learning from experience.”

Dili ra Aboitizland gahimo ana.
Daghan ni sila nga ingon ana ang style.

Pero speaking of Aboitizland, maru jud na sila.
Okay ra sad dili ka modayon kay adto mo patya sa monthly dues.

Amoa diri sa Briza, Consolacion, P550.a month.
Sila man gud ang momanage sa village, ang homeowners pabayron og P35,000 a month para sa mga Property managers.

Unya stricto pa kaayog covenant.

Sila ang magbuot unsay imong buhaton sa imong balay.
Dili ka ka paimrove kung walay P5,000 nga bond og walay approval sa administrator.
Wala kay mahimo kay papirmahon man ka og covenant daan.
Kung dili ka kabayad sa monthly dues, putlan kag tubig.
Bisan kung nakabayad ka pa sa tubig.
Dili ka kapark sa kalsada.
Ang imong mga bata dili kadula sa kalsada, bawal.
Kung maghikay ka , dunay bayad kung mogamit kag part sa kalsada.
Ang Clubhouse gamay kaayo,
pabaryon pa gyud kag P500.
walay labot ang mga tables and chairs.
Nagplano kog offer og free drawing lessons sa mga bata during summer,
ako pay pabayron sa Clubhouse fee nga P500. Libre na gani akong pagtudlo.
Surrender ko oi, kutob ra tawn duha ka session ang mga bata.


Bisan na nahalin na imong balay, bayad gihapon ka nila.

Malas lang sila ako ilang gibinuangan.
Gitauran ko nilag metro sa tubig nga moabot og P2,000 akong buwan. Normal nako nag bayad sa tubig P350-P400 ra gud.
sige kog reklamo,
pero mga arogante man ilang administrator ug property managers
mao nga 5 months pa osa ilisi ang metro sa tubig.
Giilisan tuod....
Pero dihang nadisgrasya akong anak, nabanggaan og habalhabal.
Abi kay wala na ko maghunahuna sa metro kay okay naman ang gipuli nila nga bag-ong meter.
Naunsa ba nga gibalik ang daan nga gubaon nga metro. Maayo gani kay nakaanticipate ko nga ila tong buhaton,
so akong gipintalan ang gubaon nga metro
para naa koy timailhan kung ila man ganing ibalik og taod.
Duda man gud ko sa sinceridad aning mga tawhana.
Marumaru og mag dagway.
Didto sila nasayop.

Nisulat ko sa mga Aboitiz
pero walay effect
kay adto man gyud sila motuo sa ilang property managers.

Gibuhat nako tanan paagi para mawagtang ang property management team sa among village karon,
including blackmail.
Bisan ang mga village officer akong gikontra para lang mawala ang Aboitizland sa among village.
Karon July pahawa na sila.
At least free na ang among village gikan sa binayad og P35,000 ang buwan
para lang silay magbuot sa mga homeowners.

Kung mokuha mo sa Aboitizland, siguroha nga nabasa nimog maayo ang inyong covenant.
Naa rabay mga provisions diha nga unconstitutional.
Ipakita daan sa inyong lawyer osa ka mopirma.

Tiamo na ang usa sa provisions diha.
"Any representative of Aboitizland can enter your premises at any reasonable time with as long as they gave you due notice."
Asa naman diay ang rights to property sa constitution.
Asa na ang due process?

Personally dili ko morecommend sa Aboitizland.
Okay unta ilang presyo, pero dili ka happy mopuyo og balay kung wala kay freedom.
Pero naa hinoon ang ubang homeowners okay ra sila niini nga pamaagi nga stricto kay momahal kuno ang value sa property.

Lainlain man jud tag preferences ug priority sa kinabuhi.

[filipinarealtor]

I actually bought a unit in Briza when it was still in the pre-selling stage and when I decided not to go through with it, they refunded me everything that i paid, but it was just a matter of days from the time I paid the downpayment, so i did not have any problem with Aboitizland.

Just sharing my experience with them....

[Soul Doctor]

Good for you!
Dili man sad jud worth ilang balay ba.
Ang kaayo lang nila
kay wala na tay problema sa pag-apply og linya sa tubig ug electricity.
Kung kitakita ra gud, daghan checheburechi ning VECO ug MCWD.

Pero ok pa gihapon kung ikaw na lang mopalit og imong lot ug baLAY DILI LANG SA aBOITIZLAND.
Walay magbuot nimo unsa imong gustong buhaton.
Dili man gud kalikayan nga magkadako ang imong pamilya,
moexpand gyud ka.
Diri sa Briza, dili ka kaexpand kung walay approval sa administrator.
Naghimo lang gani kog wall para maalihan ang akong mga hinayhay nga dili makita gikan sa gawas.
Gisigehan kog suwat sa aBoitizland nga ipaguba kay wala bawal sa covenant.
Ni argue ko nga technically, walay gibawal diha sa among covenant about sa paghimo og wall.
Giharass ra gud ko ani nila, abi kay ako silang gipapahawa sa among village.
Unsang man ning klaseha sa customer service?
Sakto ba gud ni?

[giddyboy]

lisod na kung ang istoryahan parte sa yuta. magpinatyanay pa man gani ang pamilya tungod lng sa yuta.

so busa before mo engage ug any endeavor in purchasing a lot, make sure all papers are in place.

if my source was right (this could be hearsay only), mao ni gipatay kno c Atty Dick Sison tungod pud sa yuta. as the legal rep for a big lot deal, iya kno gibulsa ang 8M...i just dunno if this is indeed true.

[Rance]

@giddiboy What are you doing? you are totally out of topic. If you wanna open a thread about that Mr. Dick case then do it just don't make any sense in this thread.

Anyway, going back to the topic - is about Aboitizland they should be aware that there are customers out here who had a bad experience dealing business with them. Mr. Andoni Aboitiz you should consider this feedback to improve your "after-service" customer satisfuction.

[giddyboy]

@giddiboy What are you doing? you are totally out of topic. If you wanna open a thread about that Mr. Dick case then do it just don't make any sense in this thread.

Anyway, going back to the topic - is about Aboitizland they should be aware that there are customers out here who had a bad experience dealing business with them. Mr. Andoni Aboitiz you should consider this feedback to improve your "after-service" customer satisfuction.

hey, what's off topic and non-sense about my post? i was reacting about Aboitizland and how faetz bsta mohisgot na parte sa yuta labi na kung nailad ka sa pgpalit. i was making a point nga make sure tanan papers in place before make any endeavor in purchasing a lot. ky bsan pamilya magpinatyanay man gani bsta parte na sa yuta...

and my mention about Dick Sison was also regarding "yuta". are we not allowed here to eat dishes on the sides? tutal bahin man gihapon ni ug yuta. yes, the topic is Aboitizland, but it doesn't mean we can't mention also similar other cases to Aboitizland to make a point. that is ILAD. ETHICS.

mura man kag wa nangaraan dire sa istorya pre oi...pls relax & lighten up.

[Rance]

Yeah sorry about that. Thank you.

[Rance]

So is Kishanta is doing good in the market lately?

[uzumaki]

business monopoly...cartel style hehe