Who caused MORE damage to the country, ERAP OR GMA? Why?

[pandisal]

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yah, akong utot hing vote'ar man pud gud.. pildi imong idol!

[slyder]

Pildi sa imong utot.

the refuge of the ill-fated....

[FK]

Onsa'y na damage ni ERAP sa panahon niya?

was it the economy? but I thought the destabilizers are to be blamed?

[chagorio]

para nako.....na daut lang ang image ni GMA ron kay nanabla man ang mga kampon ni erap niya....niguwa ang mga bakak....nya nadala na lang sad ang mga taw kay maayo man mo paguwa ug resulta ang mga kontra...
iyahay na lang sad ug diskarte hangtud sa nisamot na lang noon ang gubot...hahay...crab mentality

saon na lang paglambo nato ani..ug mag sige na lang ta pamantay ug manabla sa usag usa??

[s.n.m.p.]

LICUANAN EXIT
President 'hostage to impeachment'--senator

First posted 00:49am (Mla time) Aug 28, 2005
By Juliet Labog-Javellana, Tonette Orejas
Inquirer News Service



Editor's Note: Published on page A1 of the August 28, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer


THE RESIGNATION of Francisco Licuanan III as chair of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority (SBMA) shows how President Macapagal-Arroyo has become hostage to the impeachment issue, Sen. Joker Arroyo said yesterday.

The senator said Licuanan, retired president of Ayala Land Inc. when he was tapped to head the SBMA less than a year ago, was an excellent choice and was respected and well-liked by Ms Arroyo as a professional with a vision for Subic.

"Unfortunately, some persons high up wanted control of Subic and were waving the flag of impeachment. The President yielded to effectively dilute Licuanan's powers as [SBMA chair]," Senator Arroyo said, adding:

"The President has become hostage to impeachment demands."

The maverick administration senator declined to name the persons who supposedly want to control Subic, but Inquirer sources said political horse-trading had caused Licuanan's unexpected resignation.

A source said Licuanan quit when Ms Arroyo decidedÂ* to appoint Armand Arreza, an SBMA director identified with Sen. Richard Gordon, as the replacement of SBMA Administrator Alfredo Antonio.

Another source close to Licuanan said he did not take it too well when Ms Arroyo bypassed his nominee, Roberto Garcia, president of automotive battery-maker Ramcar, and chose Arreza.

Yet another source confirmed that Arreza's appointment had caused Licuanan's departure, and said the turnover to Antonio would take place next week.

According to this source, Arreza is a brother-in-law of Surigao del Sur Rep. Prospero Pichay, one of Ms Arroyo's staunchest defenders in the House.

As administrator, Arreza would be technically subordinate to Licuanan, but the latter felt that Arreza would "follow Gordon's orders" and not his, according to the first source.

The source said Licuanan had learned from Tom Alcantara, a close adviser of the President, that Gordon pushed for Arreza's appointment so he could regain "control" of the free port.

"Gordon said he needs Subic because he needs money for the next election [for mayor of Olongapo] to defeat [Zambales Gov. Vicente] Magsaysay," Alcantara reportedly said.

Ha ha ha ha.Â* Bisan unsag tu-is sa mga sipsip ni GMA nigawas ra gyud ang kamatouran nga ang desisyon sa Presidente dili para sa akaayuhan sa katawhan kung dili para sa survival ni GMA.Â* Gisakripisyo ang nasud ug ang public serviceÂ* para sa iyang kaugalingong interes.

Not running

Gordon, who served as the first chair of the SBMA, vehemently denied the allegation that he needed funds to run for mayor of Olongapo.

"What election? I'm not running in the next election," said Gordon, who was elected senator in 2004 and whose term will last up to 2010. "We've always ran in Olongapo and we never needed money for that."

He said not even his wife Kate wanted to run for any post: "In fact, the President wants Kate to be chair [of SBMA] but she doesn't want it."

Gordon said Arreza was his finance director in the SBMA during his term. But he said he had recommended Inky Reyes, not Arreza, to the post of SBMA administrator.

The source said Licuanan had been told that Arreza would "follow" his, and not Gordon's, orders.

But Licuanan was reportedly unconvinced, and felt that his plan for the SBMA and the Subic-Clark development program would be put in peril with Arreza's appointment.

When Licuanan's concerns were conveyed to the President, she reportedly said: "Because of the impeachment, I have to give way."

"Can you imagine giving Subic to Gordon because his vote is needed [in case the impeachment case reaches the Senate]?" the source said.

Ha ha ha ha ha.Â* Si GMA na mismo ang ni-ingon ha nga wa koy mahimo kay i impeach ko kinahanglan nako vote ni Gordon.Â* This the characteristic of Gloria governance.Â* Shady deals at the expense of public interest.

'Leaking falsehoods'

Joker Arroyo assailed the Palace for the earlier statement of an unnamed top official that Licuanan quit because he "did not have a taste for bureaucratic life," that he could not handle the heavy workload at the SBMA, and that its setting was just "too stressful" for him.

"Malacanang must learn to be prudent and just keep quiet when [it] cannot tell the truth instead of leaking, through so-called sources, falsehoods about why Francisco Licuanan resigned," the senator said.

He said Licuanan was "too decent a man to state the true reason for his resignation."

"He won't do a Hyatt 10," Senator Arroyo said, referring to the economic managers and Cabinet officials who quit last month and demanded Ms Arroyo's resignation.

"But this episode, with the President faced with impeachment, is being replicated with such frequency. This messy impeachment should be put to an end one way or the other before it ruins the country," the senator said.

'Wrong impressions'

In an interview with the Inquirer yesterday in Pampanga, all Licuanan wanted to talk about were the "wrong impressions" that he did not like the bureaucratic setup and that he couldn't stand up to the pressures of being SBMA chair.

"I was quite happy with my job," he declared. "In fact, I was exhilarated by the accomplishments we've made. We've been gaining momentum and embarking on new initiatives."

These include starting the budget flights at the Clark Special Economic Zone, restructuring the joint-venture project with a Taiwanese group, and getting more investments, he said.

"I was not born to a rich life, so I can take pressure and hard work," Licuanan said, adding that he would return to the private sector.

A top SBMA official close to Licuanan said Gordon's "insistence to put his trusted guy there, one who was not acceptable" to Licuanan, caused the latter's resignation.

[b]"He believes that appointments should be made on the basis of qualifications, not political connections or considerations," the official said.[/b]

Clark Development Corp. (CDC) president Antonio Ng described Licuanan as an "honorable and professional executive whose primary interest is the common good," and said he was a "great loss."

CDC vice president Victor Jose Luciano called Licuanan a "vital, credible and respected link" of the CDC to the Arroyo Cabinet.

GMA s style of appointments has been always like that more of political accomodations rather than qualifications.Â* Ha ha ha ha ha.Â* With GMA still in Malacanang we will have more of this garbage governance.Â* WA GYUD TAY PAG ASA BASTA SI GLORIA magpabilin diha.

[pandisal]

governance is already messed up by politics... nothing we can do... its a fight for survival now... good luck on you both sides there...

[slyder]

unsa man diay atong pag-asa s.n.m.p beh? kahibawo man kaha ka. unsa may plano anang oposisyon nimo beh? u seem to adore the oposition so much. what can erap, lacson, pimentel possibly do to uplift this country? these are old politicians that has been there for quite sometime now, have they improve your life since then. why are you so angry at GMA? did in your personal judgement somehow made her guilty of her accused wrong doing? whatever happened to giving her the benefit of a doubt. would you be so mad if someone charged you of theft without giving you the due process of law and the same benefit?

i am not a 100% GMA guy but i want to give her the benefit of a doubt and due process of law. i somehow like her coz she aplogized to us, did you ever hear the marcoses esp. imelda and her children said sorry for what they did. how about erap? would you be so happy if the country will have another junta?

[cHoLoCoY]

we da filipino community are also causin' da damage to our country,.... by doin' small un-lawful act'z,.....and also by not voting right,.... and even if we dint vote for frm,...... are we doin' da right thing ourselfs? are u buying pirated DVD'z? are u paying off police officers whn they give u da ticket?? hahaha,... and da police officer takes da money n let them get away with it,.... (and alot more) we are doin' it,..... we just dont want to admitt it,..... coz we want to blame others,....

u guys might not know it,.... but we are,..... we filipino'z are always lookin for some1 to blame,...... and we always blame da BIG person,...... but its right there in out face,... its us,..... just think bout it,..... wat are the things we do
are we always doin' da right thing?

who agrees wit me,.....

[Franclibra]

Who CAUSED MORE DAMAGE TO THE COUNTRY, ERAP OR GMA? why?

Ramos, why? when Ramos became the president the peso to dollar rate increases even becoming worser til ERAP sitted...

[s.n.m.p.]

unsa man diay atong pag-asa s.n.m.p beh? kahibawo man kaha ka. unsa may plano anang oposisyon nimo beh? u seem to adore the oposition so much. what can erap, lacson, pimentel possibly do to uplift this country? these are old politicians that has been there for quite sometime now, have they improve your life since then.Â* why are you so angry at GMA? did in your personal judgement somehow made her guilty of herÂ* Â*accused wrong doing? whatever happened to giving her the benefit of a doubt.Â* wouldÂ* you be so mad if someone charged you of theft without giving you the due process of law and the same benefit?

i am not a 100% GMA guy but i want to give her the benefit of a doubt and due process of law.Â* i somehow like her coz she aplogized to us, did you ever hear the marcoses esp. imelda and her children said sorry for what they did. how about erap? would you be so happy if the country will have another junta?Â* Â*

Sa iyang gipakita nga abilidad sulod sa upat ka tuig ug sa iyang mga aksyo pag buto anang Garci tape, wa na koy duda nga guilty siya.

Wa koy problema anang lacson pimentel ug uban pa. Lets them the benefit of the doubt kay wa man sila makasala di pareha anang GMA na proven na.

Basta naa GMA diha gubot ra ug tinonto ang atong mapaabot. Way ayo ang tawo nga wa nay credibilidad mo lead sa nasud.

DI NA KATO-OHAN, DILI NA KASALIGAN!