Mga Cebuano proud ba ni Winston Garcia?

[giddyboy]

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My bringing up the issue of Mr. Garcia's resume is still connected to his intentions of wresting control and consequently evaluating another group to run it for and in his behalf. Anyway relevance regarding power industry in his resume' will allow us to opine if he has the competencies to make the right choice. Unsaon man pag opine kung ikaw mismo you don't know what your are looking for?

Ok, OK, so we are clear na sa part nga wa ta ngkasinabot. Ur bringing up the resume issue is not for Winston to personally takeover management as Meralco president but his qualifications to wrest control and evaluating another person or group to run it.

now, let us say looking at his resume, he has every qualifications deemed to meet the standards of a GSIS president.

Now taking the fact that GSIS holds a major share sa Meralco. So what u mean that having no background on power distribution industry pasabot na ana is dili cya qualified to represent GSIS in making demands to Meralco?

mao nang niingon ko, "unsa may labot sa resume ni Winston regarding Meralco? if we say naa, asa man dapit? Correct me if im wrong, but my humble answer: his being one of the board members representing GSIS. that's his qualification.

and i think this is what makes him competent to make demands just like the Lopezes and other members of the board could. In fact, they (board) are all competent to make the right choice. mao btaw gihimo clang board members. And it's not to dictate his choice, but to offer his choice for every shareholder to agree or not to agree.

did u get my point?

we myt ask, ok, does his criticizing the questionable high power rates of Meralco a right choice? i believe it is. kinsa guy di ganahan mo ubos ang rates.

does his questioning the way the Lopezes handling of Meralco affairs a right choice? well, he has every right to do that.

so asa man dapit ang pgpaka uwaw niya? just because he is perceived as an "attack dog" of Malacanang? that's it? IMHO, lihay man ni sa "real" issues.

just because he is perceived to being used in the "supposedly" continuing Arroyo-Lopez feud being hyped up by media just lately, nya motuo na mo ana? who knows, currently, i see it as a HOAX ra man. saunang panahon nuon sa ilaha grandparents motuo ko. but anyway, another "lihay" na pud ni sa "real" issues.

or shall we say, just because he showed up sa stockholders meeting mustering all his convictions here and there, leaving the Lopezes wide-eyed and holding more their ground, paka uwaw na na? were his arguments non-sense? if then, asa dapit?

as for me, mas paka uwaw cya hinuon kung mag hilom2x cya. think about it...

[fire starter]

Sus Garcia ang nawng kwarta nag paka uwaw lang sa manga cebuano.boaya kaayo ug nawng didto sa assembly...

mag apil2x siya sa meralco when in fact ang GSIS wa man gani klaro. there are a lot of government pensioners and retirees nga wa pa kadawat o dugay kaayo madawat ang benifits.

[baby_grace]

In fairness to Atty. Winston Garcia, he is a good match against the equally arrogant Lopezes who control Meralco as if there are no other shareholders who have rights in the corporation. Garcia represents GSIS which is one of the biggest shareholders of the power. It is not his interest that is being protected by his strong actions. It is the interest of the consumers who are affected by the unconscionable rate adjustments made by Meralco. As a shareholder, GSIS through Mr. Garcia has the right to make demands. If changing the management could lead to creating more humane policies within Meralco, then the Lopezes should be open to that idea instead or outrightly resisting by asserting their control and their name. Were it not for the loud noise made by Garcia in pressuring Meralco officials, consumers would not know about the overcharging made by power firms, loopholes in the energy laws will not be seen, and measures to lower electricity rates will not be discussed.

[giddyboy]

In fairness to Atty. Winston Garcia, he is a good match against the equally arrogant Lopezes who control Meralco as if there are no other shareholders who have rights in the corporation. Garcia represents GSIS which is one of the biggest shareholders of the power. It is not his interest that is being protected by his strong actions. It is the interest of the consumers who are affected by the unconscionable rate adjustments made by Meralco. As a shareholder, GSIS through Mr. Garcia has the right to make demands. If changing the management could lead to creating more humane policies within Meralco, then the Lopezes should be open to that idea instead or outrightly resisting by asserting their control and their name. Were it not for the loud noise made by Garcia in pressuring Meralco officials, consumers would not know about the overcharging made by power firms, loopholes in the energy laws will not be seen, and measures to lower electricity rates will not be discussed.

haaay salamat. naay nitabang nako ug explain. u hit the nail ryt!

[worldwide]

OT:
that's why it is called a forum....some believe that they know more about the issues that's why they wanted to be heard. debates on arguments & opinions is natural for a forum. shooting down & correcting arguments is also part of a forum.

and mind u, opinions here could be from a mix of speculations, hearsays & facts. there's nothing u can do about it. you might call it "sickly outright blasting", but we just simply call it "debate". And because this is a virtual forum, we don't have to take them personally. What is a healthy discussion or debate? Those that don't lead to Ad Hominems but more on understanding an issue clearer. Be it a hot debate or humor-filled one, as long as it serves the same purpose.

can anybody in a virtual forum w/ little knowledge on issues be dangerous? Knowledgaeable or not, everybody is welcome here. Even kids.

as long as we follow forum rules, we are OK...

AND quite frankly, ur post is even an Ad Hominem. u r criticizing about some of the forumers, and not the topic at hand...see?

Now, if this topic is all about "if u r proud of Winston or not", doesn't mean "yes" or "no" ra imong i-post. dili man ni survey ra. Forum man pud ni...and making rebuttals on arguments doesn't mean u r disrespecting the person posting it...

Off T:
your voice or anyone's voice can be heard in this forum but give due respect to the voice of other people by not shooting down their opinions as if you are always right. ikaw, if people tell you ennngk, does it show respect to you? now, isn't that ad hominem? you can share your intelligent opinions without having to resort to that kind of language. be sensitive sad kay if even you are just being funny, nobody can see your smiling face.

mind you, if it was my intention to be sarcastic to you or anyone else, i could have quoted your post. it is merely suggestion and observation so that posters do not feel degraded and raising the blood pressure of some can be avoided.

On T:
I think as of now, poll result shows that cebuanos are not proud of WG.
i hope more istoryans will join the poll.

[giddyboy]

Off T:
your voice or anyone's voice can be heard in this forum but give due respect to the voice of other people by not shooting down their opinions as if you are always right. ikaw, if people tell you ennngk, does it show respect to you? now, isn't that ad hominem? you can share your intelligent opinions without having to resort to that kind of language. be sensitive sad kay if even you are just being funny, nobody can see your smiling face.

OT:
honestly, it's not an ad hominem or even close to being called self-righteous. did i attack the person, not the argument? did i ever stop somebody from rebutting my arguments? though it may seem to u that i am posting as if im always right, it's not. i'm just too talkative that's why...i even admitted that i was wrong on some of my arguments to tinsi, how simple can that be? have u read my latest discussion w/ tinsi? we were doing fine...and what i did was not intended to be funny funny. it is supposed to be an idiomatic expression.

if somebody tells me "ennngk wrong", i will not take it as a disrespect towards me as a person. i will take it instead as an idiomatic rebuttal against my argument. it will hurt my pride or ego, and of course i will not smile. who wouldn't? but making sense in all that, the other person may be right.

and now u r telling me now how to share my opinions? so who is self-righteous now?

in forums, sometimes rebuttals (and the technique on how it's done) may be too sensitive to accept. sometimes it hurts our pride and ego. if somehow i did it to u, i apologize for that. Just remember that this is a Politics & Current Events forum. It may not be recommendable for the faint-hearted. just a thought though.

mind you, if it was my intention to be sarcastic to you or anyone else, i could have quoted your post. it is merely suggestion and observation so that posters do not feel degraded and raising the blood pressure of some can be avoided.

OT:
still it's the same. although u did not quote directly to me, ur observation is still criticizing forumers. that's ad hominem no matter what ur intentions are.

if u have suggestions & observations about forumers here, this is not the right place to do it. We have moderators that could just gladly take your PM.

On T:
I think as of now, poll result shows that cebuanos are not proud of WG.
i hope more istoryans will join the poll.

yeah. i also hope so. but we could have been more specific as to what in Winston should we be proud of or not. is it his being the president of GSIS? is it his making noise at Meralco? or is it about his personal character?

coz anybody can say i'm proud of him as GSIS president, but not on his noise at Meralco...

i could be wrong, but it could have been better if we say, "Proud ba mo ni Winston sa gibuhat niya sa Meralco?"...
(sorry if i talk too much)

[Motownkid]

no dili ko proud kay dugay kaau nakuha ang pension sa akong lola sa una..

[ong76win2]

agree. just an observation though. some of us here believes that they know more or have a better grasp of the issue than the others, that they tend to correct or shot down the ideas of others. while it is healthy to share ideas, outrightly blasting another idea is sick unless you are totally sure that the facts stated are accurate and you are an expert on the issue. little knowledge can be dangerous.

on topic:

Mga cebuano proud ba ni Winston Garcia?
I think it can be answered by a yes or no, proud, dili or neutral.

Yes, you are right bro.

[ong76win2]

You mean bro, be specific.

[o_bama]

definetly di gyd ko proud ni Winston Garcia being a cebuano I hate him and the Garcia's in general...I could say that the Osmenas are better than them...