Who caused MORE damage to the country, ERAP OR GMA? Why?

[Bolshoi]

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Bolshoi, if you bribe or steal money from the government amounting P 50 million or more, that's plunder. Corruption if it is less than P 50 million.

From Republic Act No. 7080

Sec. 2. Definition of the Crime of Plunder; Penalties. - Any public officer who, by himself or in connivance with members of his family, relatives by affinity or consanguinity, business associates, subordinates or other persons, amasses, accumulates or acquires ill-gotten wealth through a combination or series of overt criminal acts as described in Section 1 (d) [Poster's note: Section 1 (d) refers to the definition of "Ill-gotten wealth"] hereof in the aggregate amount or total value of at least Fifty million pesos (P50,000,000.00) shall be guilty of the crime of plunder and shall be punished by reclusion perpetua to death. Any person who participated with the said public officer in the commission of an offense contributing to the crime of plunder shall likewise be punished for such offense. In the imposition of penalties, the degree of participation and the attendance of mitigating and extenuating circumstances, as provided by the Revised Penal Code, shall be considered by the court. The court shall declare any and all ill-gotten wealth and their interests and other incomes and assets including the properties and shares of stocks derived from the deposit or investment thereof forfeited in favor of the State.

Wind Shear- sorry bout the figure but buttom line is, am still believe that Erap has done more damage in our country than PGMA. Kung baga sa workload pa, carry over mistake.

[Moshi Moshi]

How to hide multi million money. Just lose them in the accounting. Flipping.

http://www.tribune.net.ph/headlines/20050716.hed04.html

The Commission on Audit (CoA) yesterday revealed that the National Housing Authority (NHA) has diverted more than P370 million from the Northrail and Southrail Relocation Projects (NSRP) funds to other ongoing programs apparently with the blessing of Malacañang.

Based on the recent report of the CoA prepared by Director IV Dibagulun Gandamra, P282.12 million of the fund was diverted to the Smokey Mountain Development Project. The reported diversion of funds later caught the attention of Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago, which she exposed last year.

The NSRP funds were specifically earmarked for the relocation and construction of houses for residents who will be displaced by the twin rail projects. The NHA was apparently given the go signal to rechannel the funds to eight other projects by no less than the Department of Budget and Management (DBM).

The report also revealed NHA's action had the blessing of the Palace as shown by two letters from the DBM authorizing the rechanneling of the funds.

A letter dated May 4, 2004 signed by newly-resigned DBM Secretary Emilia Boncodin showed the department “interposes no objection” to the use of NHA's available cash balances for its various priority housing/resettlement projects, including the Southrail Relocation Project.

The other letter, dated Oct. 19, 2004 signed by Undersecretary Relampegos, gave the NHA the green light to use the Northrail funds.

In fact, there was an earlier letter also from Boncodin dated July 13, 2001 telling NHA that “the CY 2002 budget allocation may be adjusted/realigned...as deemed appropriate based on the review conducted by management in accordance with corporation's priorities and operating concerns,” the CoA report also stated.

The state auditing firm also said NHA's handling of the Northrail and Southrail funds was questionable and may later create confusion as to where the money went since the accounting was done jointly despite the fact that the two projects were distinct and separate from each other.

[clarkhkent]

para nako dili lang ni sila maoy dapat pasanginlan.....ang sakto jud magsugod ta sa pinaka root para ma trace nato tanan....but u only ask between the two.....i think mas grabe si erap....kay after ni Ramos ni maayu man gamay ang atong economy pero pagsulod ni erap labi na sa tunga tunga sa panahon sa iyang administration murag nisamot jud ta kalubong.....and dili sad ta kabasol ni arroyo coz dili lalim ning magsunod sa mga hugaw.....or problema sa uban.....busa support lang jud ta niya!

just my 2 cents....

[P-Chan]

hmm... i think gloria did more damage here...

[bad donkey!]

kung imu pangutanon ang pro erap ingun sila si Gloria! kung pangutanon nimu ang pro Gloria ingun sila si Erap.. Kung ako imung pangutanon. SILA TANAN!!!MGA CONGRESMAN! MGA SENATOR! MGA POLITICIAN! VICE PRESIDENT! RESIDENT! gikapoy na mo ani! pesting yawa na silang tanan!!

[Wind Shear]

Wind Shear- sorry bout the figure but buttom line is, am still believe that Erap has done more damage in our country than PGMA. Kung baga sa workload pa, carry over mistake.

It's okay. At least nasayod na ka.

Speaking of bottom line, it's good opinion though.

[nopeace]

hmm... i think gloria did more damage here...

hmm... i think erap did more damage here...

[abby]

kung imu pangutanon ang pro erap ingun sila si Gloria! kung pangutanon nimu ang pro Gloria ingun sila si Erap.. Kung ako imung pangutanon. SILA TANAN!!!MGA CONGRESMAN! MGA SENATOR! MGA POLITICIAN! VICE PRESIDENT! RESIDENT! gikapoy na mo ani! pesting yawa na silang tanan!!

hahaha!!unsa'y residentkalma lang bai...bitaw...kapoy man sad nang mga nagsige ug rally..and those people from the opposition..it's good to criticize and question things but if you do it for selfish reasons..to gain power..dili na sad na maayo...
SO FOR ME, THE RALLYISTS AND PROTESTERS DID MORE DAMAGE.

[arnoldsa]

ERAP did made a damage that we can still feel up to today...

Had Joe De Venecia won.......it would have been different
Had Raul Roco won..........it would again had been different
Had Rene de Villa won..........it would be different
Same goes had Richard Gordon or Lito Osmena won....

but certainly they would not suffer Erap's fate caused by his stupidity..

[tempest]

ERAPs ouster did made a damage that we can still feel up to today...

Had Joe De Venecia won.......it would have been pakikisama at real deals
Had Raul Roco won..........it would have been an high tempered Presidency
Had Rene de Villa won..........it would been FVR style Presidency again
Same goes had Richard Gordon or Lito Osmena won.... (" the dictator and messianic complex presidency all talk full of hot air. . .)

but certainly they would not suffer Erap's fate because the elite will not plan for their ouster since day one.