Free will: Absolute or Not? Should all the blame be upon humanity?

[Tattva]

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actually is there is no limit sir.. We can do what we want to do. But we can only exercise our absolute freewill in this life only...

Yes i already mentioned that but i also said that as we exercise our freewill there are limits so in that SENSE because our freewill is bound to follow the rules then its not absolute.

[SPIKE_CSA]

Such as?

anything girl..you can do what you want to do..

[SPIKE_CSA]

Yes i already mentioned that but i also said that as we exercise our freewill there are limits so in that SENSE because our freewill is bound to follow the rules then its not absolute.

again sir, there is no limit.. in fact if a person wants to go to hell then God cannot do about it.. Why? because it is the man's freewill. He likes to go to hell..

Diba? naa bay mahimo ang Ginoo ug ang tao ganahan jud moadto ug hell? by doing bad things of course wala.. that is why it is absolute..

[amingb]

Yes Freewill is Absolute but there is an exemption .. if u chooise youre own will not Gods will then Hell is the destination ...

For God since He is Perfect there is no Freewill .. sinning is Against Hes will.

[SPIKE_CSA]

Yes Freewill is Absolute but there is an exemption .. if u chooise youre own will not Gods will then Hell is the destination ...

For God since He is Perfect there is no Freewill .. sinning is Against Hes will.

ani ni siya brod ay:

we know nga naay duha ka destination ang tao.. HEAVEN AND HELL.

we know if we do bad things adto ta sa hell

we know also if we do bad things adto ta sa heaven..

NOW ITS UR CHOICE. asa man ka?

naa bay mahimo ang ginoo ug ganahan gyud diay ka moadto sa hell? answer is WALA GYUD.

ug ganahan sad ko moadto ug heaven, aw its ur choice sad..

unya, ug naay tao maadto sa hell kinsa man iyang e blame? diba siya rasad kay siya man ang nagpili sa iyang gibuhat?


mao na gitawag ug absolute freewill gyud. its ur choice.

[The_Undertaker]

nice one!!!

I second that....

[SPIKE_CSA]

its like choosing between two roads..

if you want to go left then its your choice...

if you want to right then its youor choice...

nakahibaw nagud ta daan unsay padulngan nato.. diba?

[Sinyalan]

Yes Freewill is Absolute but there is an exemption .. if u chooise youre own will not Gods will then Hell is the destination ...

For God since He is Perfect there is no Freewill .. sinning is Against Hes will.

It's not freewill then... naa man kahay exemptions.

[amingb]

It's not freewill then... naa man kahay exemptions.

In Every Rule there is an Expemption ....

[Tattva]

again sir, there is no limit.. in fact if a person wants to go to hell then God cannot do about it.. Why? because it is the man's freewill. He likes to go to hell..

Diba? naa bay mahimo ang Ginoo ug ang tao ganahan jud moadto ug hell? by doing bad things of course wala.. that is why it is absolute..

Yes yes and yes i already said that for the nth time/s. Its absolute because you can do anything but there are times that this freewill is bound by some limits.

let me illustrate my point, a person wants to go to someplace by plane but some weird event took place that he was unable to go on board, later on, the plane crashed because of an engine malfunction. Some people would say that this is divine providence, so ok, lets assumed that it is, so that means that a certain force created the WEIRD circumstance that made the man missed the plane. Gusto siya mosakay sa plane pero tungod sa event nga beyond his control wala siya ka board, Isnt this a great example of non-absolute freewill in that sense? for me it is.