MERGED: MARTIAL LAW and related issues

[darkwing]

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if you guys want GMA out, be prepared for Kabayan to assume presidency, is that what you want? unless the opposition can present a viable alternative, I doubt people will boot her out, people are just making fun of her haha

[FK]

@FK: what would be the legal grounds for her impeachment? erap was not impeached, he was ousted. do you think with that voice recording GMA will be ousted? how? the opposition is merely making noise but does not have ENOUGH legal basis to impeach or ENOUGH support to oust GMA.

cheating/violating laws during elections... If inyo rason nga dili pwede dawaton ang tape kay gi-wiretapped... was ousting a president through mass civil disobedience written in the constitution or any law books?

talking to a commissioner during a election proceedings is against the law... and again what's her business talking to a commissioner during elections. In one of the conversation Barber did asked Garci regarding cheating. Garci's business is vote padding, is GMA his customer?

[Bigfoot Oracle]

rule #8

Don't use needless or excessive usage of Line-breaks, ALL-CAPS, nested quotes "quoting of quotes" (max is 3), GIANT fonts, swearing or derogatory terms.

no shouting please.

[potterboy]

WHAT RULE OF LAW ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHOSE VERY MANDATE IS IN QUESTION. SHE IS MOCKING THE VERY HEART OF OUR DEMOCRACY, THE ELECTIONS, WHERE THE SOVEREIGN WILL OF THE PEOPLE IS EXERCISED.

SHE IS THE PRESIDENT, SHE SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO RESPECT AND UPHOLD THE LAW WITHOUT FEAR OR FERVOR. SHE SHOULD HAVE SET HERSELF AS AN EXAMPLE. YET SHE IS THE ONE WHO SHAMELESSLY VIOLATED THE LAW AND WORSE ITS NOT AN ORDINARY LAW. ITS ABOUT HER BEING ELECTED TO THE PRESIDENCY.
SHE MADE HERSELF TOO LOW IN THE EYES OF OUR PEOPLE. SHE STOOP DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF A CRIMINAL, LIKE VITO CORLEONE. A CHEAT. A THUG. A GANGSTER.

YES, A CRIMINAL, A CHEAT, A THUG AND A GANGSTER WILL PLAY HER CARDS WELL AS WHAT YOU SAID.

SHE DID WHATEVER SHE CAN, EVEN IF HOW FOUL IT CAN BE, JUST TO OCCUPY MALACANANG.

YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO CHEATED HER WAY TO MALACANANG. THIS IS A GROSS VIOLATION OF OUR CONSTITUTION. YOU READ THAT? SHE CHEATED!!!!!!!!!! SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF WE ALLOW HER TO REMAIN THEN I THINK THERE IS NO REASON FOR US TO EXIST AS A SOCIETY RULED BY LAW BECAUSE OUR VERY OWN PRESIDENT DOES NOT SEEM TO KNOW HOW TO OBEY THE LAW. THE NUMBER ONE IMPLEMENTOR OF THE LAW IS THE NUMBER ONE VIOLATOR INSTEAD. WE WILL BECOME A NATION OF LAW BREAKERS.

NOW I KNOW. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE AN IDEAL. IN THE END, YOU ARE JUST RESIGN THAT "THATS POLITICS!" READ: ITS-GMA-IN-POWER- SO-BE-IT-EVEN-HOW-EVIL-AND ABUSIVE-SHE-IS.

WE ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. FOR ONCE, SET ASIDE YOUR ADULATION OF GMA AND JOIN OUR RANKS. UNITED, WE CAN DO SOMETHING. IF YOU LOVE YOUR COUNTRY, YOU SHOULD TRANSCEND POLITICS. GMA IS BETRAYING THE PEOPLE. SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO REPRESENT US.

THIS IS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN FINALLY DO SOMETHING TO END THE CYCLE OF BUNGLED PRESIDENTS. GLORIA IS THE STUMBLING BLOCK OF OUR PROGRESS BECAUSE SHE IS PUTTING THE INTEREST OF HER FAMILY FIRST BEFORE THE COUNTRY. IF YOU LOVE YOUR COUNTRY, FIGHT FOR CHANGE.

*X sets mode +b dawn runner@dawn runner.istorya.net/forums
*dawn runner has been kicked by dayokmaker from #istorya (Banned: Caps lock abuse)



ummm... all ur posts are clear. u want ERAP to have the palace again. please say no...

[LytSlpr]

@FK: what would be the legal grounds for her impeachment? erap was not impeached, he was ousted. do you think with that voice recording GMA will be ousted? how? the opposition is merely making noise but does not have ENOUGH legal basis to impeach or ENOUGH support to oust GMA.

cheating/violating laws during elections... If inyo rason nga dili pwede dawaton ang tape kay gi-wiretapped... was ousting a president through mass civil disobedience written in the constitution or any law books?

talking to a commissioner during a election proceedings is against the law... and again what's her business talking to a commissioner during elections. In one of the conversation Barber did asked Garci regarding cheating. Garci's business is vote padding, is GMA his customer?

nope but it worked ousting erap. that's why it's called a revolution and a revolution can only work if it is supported by ALL. as i've said the recent scandal is not enough for people to oust her through people power or for the constitution to prosecute her.

if talking to a commissioner is against the law, then have GMA prosecuted but I bet that she will not be impeached for that because AFAIK that is not in the provision of our constitution and a re-count for a President is far flung.

that's as realistic as it can get!

another point, as i've read sunstar today, june 17, an article in the business section says, "Businessmen throw support behind Gloria." Note that the businessmen did not give any condition whatsoever. The same is true in Manila and Davao. it made me think, where does the huge chunk or the masa work? or where do they run for charity? That only proves further that IF the business and religious sector will not join the protests then GMA can NEVER be ousted.

[GlassMoon]

dawn runner: Watch your CAPS please.

[FK]

@LytSlpr:

Section 2. The President, the Vice-President, the Members of the Supreme Court, the Members of the Constitutional Commissions, and the Ombudsman may be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, culpable violation of the Constitution, treason, bribery, graft and corruption, other high crimes, or betrayal of public trust. All other public officers and employees may be removed from office as provided by law, but not by impeachment.

she might have violated those words in bold.

what's your point in stating that the business community gives support to GMA, pasabot ba nga pasagdan na lang nato kay gisupportahan siya sa businessmen? The businessmen are not the only people in this country. We are seeking for the truth.

Again what's her business talking to a commissioner. Is she a customer of Garci?

O.T. i don't think EDSA 2 was really the voice of the majority... how many people have lined the streets... those are the people who don't like a drop-out president. Now they are blaming the opposition of destabilization, they all started it.

[arnoldsa]

Whoever will succeed GMA -- either in the next Presidential elections or by whatever means! -- will still suffer the same fate of being accused as a puppet, corrupt, or as another Ferdinand Marcos in the making... hahay when will all of these end... when will we ever be able to get our acts together...

[LytSlpr]

@FK: sir, if you want to go after GMA by all means do so... i did not say that we will just let her get away but for now we can practically and technically do nothing. your cause may be laudable but without enough basis it will remain just that. get the point?

[marquee]

ayaw sige tuyok2X FK. as much as you'd like GMA to be ousted, you don't have enough legal grounds for that. you still don't have full support from the people, businessmen and the religious sector. paghulat ra gud naa man due process if ever she's guilty or not. if you like GMA to be impeached, who do you like to take her seat? Noli? or ERAP ba?hehe pls God know... your talking about ERAP man gud. ganahan jud diay ka niya. imong nahibaw-an nga drop-out lang siya mao gipa-oust siya sa mga tawo... please... wake up...