MERGED: MARTIAL LAW and related issues

[FK]

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and they should also validate and accept the conversation in the interest of justice, public knowledge and the fate of the nation.

[LytSlpr]

that is the reason why they are asking for GMA's statement. i believe GMA is taking her time to play her cards right. in time she will issue a statement that's for sure because she owes that to the people. if she admits it, then what do you think will happen? she will be impeached or prosecuted? i don't think so, again because it is not in our rule of law. impropriety maybe... that is the most that they can hurl at her but definitely it is not enough for the public to pressure her to resign or the majority to cause an uprising.

for now, luck is still at GMA's side.

[FK]

@LytSlpr ngano dili man siya pwede i impeach? may I ask you does EDSA 2 a rule of law?

[dawn runner]

that is the reason why they are asking for GMA's statement. i believe GMA is taking her time to play her cards right. in time she will issue a statement that's for sure because she owes that to the people. if she admits it, then what do you think will happen? she will be impeached or prosecuted? i don't think so, again because it is not in our rule of law. impropriety maybe... that is the most that they can hurl at her but definitely it is not enough for the public to pressure her to resign or the majority to cause an uprising.

for now, luck is still at GMA's side.

WHAT RULE OF LAW ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHOSE VERY MANDATE IS IN QUESTION. SHE IS MOCKING THE VERY HEART OF OUR DEMOCRACY, THE ELECTIONS, WHERE THE SOVEREIGN WILL OF THE PEOPLE IS EXERCISED.

SHE IS THE PRESIDENT, SHE SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO RESPECT AND UPHOLD THE LAW WITHOUT FEAR OR FERVOR. SHE SHOULD HAVE SET HERSELF AS AN EXAMPLE. YET SHE IS THE ONE WHO SHAMELESSLY VIOLATED THE LAW AND WORSE ITS NOT AN ORDINARY LAW. ITS ABOUT HER BEING ELECTED TO THE PRESIDENCY.
SHE MADE HERSELF TOO LOW IN THE EYES OF OUR PEOPLE. SHE STOOP DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF A CRIMINAL, LIKE VITO CORLEONE. A CHEAT. A THUG. A GANGSTER.

YES, A CRIMINAL, A CHEAT, A THUG AND A GANGSTER WILL PLAY HER CARDS WELL AS WHAT YOU SAID.

SHE DID WHATEVER SHE CAN, EVEN IF HOW FOUL IT CAN BE, JUST TO OCCUPY MALACANANG.

YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO CHEATED HER WAY TO MALACANANG. THIS IS A GROSS VIOLATION OF OUR CONSTITUTION. YOU READ THAT? SHE CHEATED!!!!!!!!!! SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF WE ALLOW HER TO REMAIN THEN I THINK THERE IS NO REASON FOR US TO EXIST AS A SOCIETY RULED BY LAW BECAUSE OUR VERY OWN PRESIDENT DOES NOT SEEM TO KNOW HOW TO OBEY THE LAW. THE NUMBER ONE IMPLEMENTOR OF THE LAW IS THE NUMBER ONE VIOLATOR INSTEAD. WE WILL BECOME A NATION OF LAW BREAKERS.

[dawn runner]

i am aware of that but that does not affect anything. that's why i said chismis.

nevertheless they should have not voted but instead opened the envelope. the senators who voted 'no" exposed their motives. we don't know the exact price but CERTAINLY they were paid otherwise they should have voted "yes" in the interest of justice, public knowledge and the fate of the nation. IT IS SIMPLE PSYCHOLOGY.

malas or shall i say stupid lang gyud si erap. they have something material on him while GMA's tape is still inconclusive.

what could be more stupid than being caught on tape cheating the elections for the PRESIDENT.

[LytSlpr]

@FK: what would be the legal grounds for her impeachment? erap was not impeached, he was ousted. do you think with that voice recording GMA will be ousted? how? the opposition is merely making noise but does not have ENOUGH legal basis to impeach or ENOUGH support to oust GMA.

@dawn runner: with all my points of view and our discourses in this thread i only have 2 words for you, THAT"S POLITICS! [...in the Philippines] It may be pathetic, disappointing, frustrating etc. LIVE WITH IT if not, you will be fighting a hopeless battle otherwise I suggest you WAIT FOR YOUR TURN. Now, if GMA cheated can you personally prove that? because the tape sure didn't. No offense meant sir & I don't mean to be sarcastic but I'm really laughing at your arguements.

As I've said, who's willing to bet on it?

[dawn runner]

NOW I KNOW. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE AN IDEAL. IN THE END, YOU ARE JUST RESIGN THAT "THATS POLITICS!" READ: ITS-GMA-IN-POWER- SO-BE-IT-EVEN-HOW-EVIL-AND ABUSIVE-SHE-IS.

[LytSlpr]

NOW I KNOW. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE AN IDEAL. IN THE END, YOU ARE JUST RESIGN THAT "THATS POLITICS!" READ: ITS-GMA-IN-POWER- SO-BE-IT-EVEN-HOW-EVIL-AND ABUSIVE-SHE-IS.

...PRECISELY! AND NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AT LEAST FOR NOW.

[dawn runner]

WE ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. FOR ONCE, SET ASIDE YOUR ADULATION OF GMA AND JOIN OUR RANKS. UNITED, WE CAN DO SOMETHING. IF YOU LOVE YOUR COUNTRY, YOU SHOULD TRANSCEND POLITICS. GMA IS BETRAYING THE PEOPLE. SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO REPRESENT US.

THIS IS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN FINALLY DO SOMETHING TO END THE CYCLE OF BUNGLED PRESIDENTS. GLORIA IS THE STUMBLING BLOCK OF OUR PROGRESS BECAUSE SHE IS PUTTING THE INTEREST OF HER FAMILY FIRST BEFORE THE COUNTRY. IF YOU LOVE YOUR COUNTRY, FIGHT FOR CHANGE.

[LytSlpr]

sir don't misconstrue me. i am for change but right now there is just no point to it. i am just practical. if GMA will step down, who will step up? needless to mention, our family, company and our organizations went to the streets, fought the right battles and joined the rallies which really have a cause and is worth joining.

my personal, stand right now is "wait & see" & if they don't have anybody "lesser evil" than GMA to put in malacanang, then i would not waste my time & effort of joining any cause. asa they said, it's between the devil [opposition] and the deep blue sea [GMA]. i'll take my chances with the deep blue sea.