Gays and Lesbians in Churches

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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All person are wether pari ka o dili are all subjected to being GAY for I consider it a DISEASE , no offense to all of our istorya members who are homo's because it can strike anywhere . Of course if ang pari mahibaw-an na bayot.... natural kick-out siya sa congregation pero usahay di man masakpan kay tago kaau ang pagka bayot but till then as long as proven siya na bayot ... di gyud ko uyon na parokyano nako siya .... though kung ako lang cguro ang sakristan .... makabalo gyud ko kung bayot siya or dili thru my GAYDAR ... nyahahahahhaa !!!

[tolstoi]

whats wrong with gays and lesbians in the church?..mas maayo hinuon munindot ang kumbinto kay mapuno sa decorations

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Nyahahahahaha tolstoi ..... lisod na abi pa lang ngumpisal ang sakristan sud sa confessional box pero di diay to ... nyahahahhahaha

[potterboy]

updated list:

PRO

luvmebabhe!
tarsus
kremlin
wiwiwab
clarkhent
chitgoks
Nonon
tolstoi

CON

brod SPRINGFIELD_XD_40
giver_bert
luthienne
mannyamador
FK
dacs
dudoyjoie
Von!-x
P-Chan
roselyn
robearthFX
Empress_Of_Drac
jerx d great(?)
Burby_dull


GAYDAR huh?

more please....

[Empress_Of_Drac]

@dacs

This tradition has also been faithfully maintained by the Oriental Churches.

-...ok...so that's only a tradition and an assumption that that's what really God wants...and it's not that they are stereotyping males from females, gays or lesbians...ok.. i got your point...but still for people not like you(DACS-who seem to have a very deep understanding and loyalty to the church)...male dominion in the church still... is a patriarchal system...an old tradition...which is not applicable nowadays...or lemme say..not practical...8's very obvious that in the time of christ, males were the more dominant animels...so that may explain why he chooses males for his disciples.....but 8's different nowadays...females are more empowered already...they hold positions in high offices..etc..i do understand now that the church doesn't descriminate females...but aren't they very close-minded?...?....by just assumin' that thats what God wants?...do they really know what God is thinkin'..do they really know that what our bros and sis gays and lesbians are doin' are immoral acts?that's y am askin' u to give me a very short definition of morality....but it seems that ur reply is STFW!!...sorry to say am askin' for ur own definition....pax

imitated Christ in choosing only men; and her living teaching authority which has consistently held that the exclusion of women from the priesthood is in accordance with God's plan for his Church.

-for me...God's plan for his church is to be of good service..to His people....not to choose genders or ***...as basis if you can serve or not...old traditions or traditions sometimes is not a good foundation for faith or belief...what if...a holocaust would occur...that would annihilate all male specy on this planet?...what will happen to the church?......there are nuns..ryt..but still...can't female be priest?...for me yes...if and only if our church is not that closeminded...

which these groups are trying to change to fit their agenda.

..--so..wots their agenda then?...for me, lesbians and gays are like females in old times...all the things they do are considered immoral acts...just like females before...the bad thing is...filipino lesbians and gays are just less fortunate becoz they are filipinos...filipinos... who are bounded wd this some freakin' traditions and cultures...their agenda is for the public to accept them...to respect their ryts...they just want their sides to be heard...and...it's not easy to be on their shoes...livin' in this country wd people sooo righteous...so...perfectionists...that for bein' so..they forget to see their own flaws and mistakes...a very sad thing to say...but that's the common thing that happens nowadays...lesbians and gays are bein' stereotyped...that's y they couldn't act normally becoz they are already measured even before they tend to their actions...how could they take positions in church...when the church itself....eventhough doesn't descriminate them...has it's questionable issue in this gender thingy.....*sigh*...the world is really unfair...and it's not God's doin'...it's the people or maybe the circumstances to be blamed...nonetheless...what a topic is..when there is no arguments...so pax to all istoryans...we rowwwwcckkkkssss!!!

If I want to kill someone and I want to be true to myself, would it be okay?

-...that's absolutely NOT okey...what i really mean when was talkin' 'bout bein' true to oneself is when u r able to express what you feel RESPONSIBLY...that..u hurt no one in doin' so...u step no ryts or dignity in doin' so....it's a matter of conception and interpretation..really...lesbians and gays who express themselves by havin' affairs is bein' true to themselves...as long as they hurt nobody....and they don't violate any laws on this land...then i can tell them to go on....normally...it's normal..and it's human instinct to search for a mate who would give love to him in return...so what's wrong wd that?...as long as they are singles...and willing and able....hehehehe...but a very sad thing is...our culture...religion..and traditions..wont permit it..coz in this country morality is bein' connected to the standards of such thingys....*sigh again*...nevertheless...pls let's be more realistic...this is the real world...teachings from books/bibles, religions, etc...is important ryt....but..hey...there are more lessons to be learned outside....and i can humbly say that am still a neophyte to this sort of things...am still in a cocoon..really.....pax

ot::what i really mean is...am still suckin' mah thumbs...no more milk..it's economy crisis...lipoSOOCCKKZZ!

You got a lot of reading to do, girl

-..yeah indeed, mr. dax...i still have a very long..long..way to go...and know what...i wanted that i can start mah reading ryt..so that it wont be so much difficult for me to retrace when i found out that what's am readin' is the opposite of what am searchin'....

ot::what i really mean is...sorry... but got a limited time for readin'...mah eyesight can't sustain heavy readin'...and pls...don't call me girl again...think am mature enough...am 20...hehehe..but...still am a little childish though...hehehehe....

If one part suffers, the whole body suffers with it - including Christ who is the head of the Catholic Church. The Church prays for and together with the repentant priest.

-...that's y am a devoted catholic...eventhough i dislike some teachings in our church...i always consider mah self a freshman student...under it's care and guidance...guidance..ryt...and... i was born catholic...i will die catholic...that's how loyal i am to this religion....but mah loyalty is not blind...and when time comes...when i still have the oppurtunity...i'll still raise up what i think...without disrepecting them.....that...lesbians and gays...can hold positions in church...but as for now...i have no choice but to say NO..becoz...i dont want to argue..when i knew that still... mah argument would not make the subject be realized and put into actions....am a little bit exhausted here *sigh*...think cant understand what am talkin' anymore...hehehehe...

He(the gay priest or somethin') is not humiliated publicly;

-..pabor...but the media did it...the media overdo it...that's y some people who lack knowledge about the subject matter immediately judge d catholic religion to be a slut to its own teachings....whattahsadthingtoknow...*sigh*


ot::overall::what i really mean is...daghan na ba au kog na ot? basin deleton ni sa mods..hahay..kakafoi raba type ug hunahuna anang akong gipangyawit sa taas..hehehe..pagkaimmoral...and hoist, are u dax panganiban? pax LiposSOOOCCCKKZZ!!!

[Empress_Of_Drac]

@FK

naa bay unggoy nga bayot or tomboy?

-...you're arguein'... but at the same time u don't know what you're argument is all about...naa bay unggoy nga bayot or tomboy?....hmmmnnn...think...this issue s only for human bein's lyk us(not about monkeys and chimpanzeesss)...but..oppsss...shud i have to assume that ur not one of us?(hehehehe..just kiddin' aside..toink)......

ot::what i really mean is...do monkeys and chimpanzeess have religions? do they have moral values?....another ot:naa bay unggoy nga bayot or tomboy?....STFW...dude!!hehehe(learned that here...eheheheh..)

ambot kong mag-ana ng mga bayot, asa nila ipasok, kong asa na nila ipasok, parte ba kaha na sa reproductive system.

ot::--...u mean ***...nah..8's not part of the reproductive system...don't you know it?...ur askin' somethin' out of topic...hehehe

[Empress_Of_Drac]

@SPRINGFIELD_XD_40

All person are wether pari ka o dili are all subjected to being GAY for I consider it a DISEASE

-...huh? a disease? so...wots the medical term of such disease?(Bayotosis and Tomboyosis?..hehehehe) who discovered it?...ehem..i know now...daddyy Garfield!....heheheheeh..pagkaimmoral...NAH, it's NOT a disease...for me...it's a Feelin'...yeah...an emotional condition that is stable and very agressive....a mental condition that triggers a helluva different lifestyle....It's not a disease because it doesn't malfunctioned the immune system of a human bein'.....that's y am favor for gays/lesbians to hold positions n church coz i believe that they have a helluva lot of things to offer....but as what i have said above...there's no use for me to say YES...because i know that.... still... mah argument is not winnable(sorry...cant find any words...hehehe)...pax

ot::what i really mean is...love you daddy Garfield...hehehe..toink..Sockkk d Lifo!!!

[Empress_Of_Drac]

@tolstoi

whats wrong with gays and lesbians in the church?..mas maayo hinuon munindot ang kumbinto kay mapuno sa decorations

--whahahahahahaha..pabor..like u dude...heheehhe..pagkaimmoral....dili nalang diay ta ani maghire ug priest nga bayot or tomboy...maghire nalang tag decorator nga bayot aron monindot ang decorations...wahahahahahaha...pagkatoytoy....Hail Hitler!!!!hehehehehe..LifoSOCCKKKZZ!!!!

ot::what i really mean is....bitaw sa...aron makadaginot ang parokya...hehehehehe....but for me lisod jud au mahitabo ng mahimong pari or madre ang tomboy or bayot...dli man gani mahimo ang straight nga babaye...for the catholic church nga mahimong priest...mga tomboy ug bayot pa ba...nga kahibalo na ta...unsa ka notorious ang pagtan aw sa mga tawo nila...*sigh* kalibangon ko...hehehe

ot:a jud::ang akong ot kay dli jud matawag na ot...kani ra nga ot...hehehehe..LifoSOOCKKKSSS!!!

[Empress_Of_Drac]

@mannyamador

Adherence and fidelity to the teachings of a faith-based organization SHOULD be a basis for rejecting or accepting a person as a leader of said faith-based organization. In the case of homosexuality, practicing such homosexual acts IS against the teachings of certain faith-based organization such as the Catholoc Church. Therefore, it makes perfect sense not to allow such persons who practice homosexual acts to be priests or nuns or Church leaders.

...-Well said! I salute you dude!!!U Rowwwcccckkkkk!!!!

[Empress_Of_Drac]

@Nonon

case close....

...nah...this is not a case...this is an issue...and can be reopen anytime we wanted to...hehehehe

ot: wot i really mean is...are u a detective..or are u a fan of nancy drew? or hardy boys?..or do u watch fbi files and new detectives in discovery?...hehehehe...well just searchin' for mah cofanatic...hehehe..yooh!