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    From Dust to Man: A Scientific Proof
    May 25, 2007 by Bro. Eli

    They alleged that the creation of Adam is an ‘anti-scientific nonsense’, and God did not create Adam from a handful of dust, like the Bible says. To my readers, see how these blatant liars are ‘wrestling’ the words of the Bible. Their allegation and their pre-conceived idea are not written in the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible can you find a verse that Adam was created by God from a handful of dust. What is written is recorded in Genesis 2:7, which says:

    “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”

    While it is true that God created man from the dust of the ground, the phrase “handful of dust” is absent in the verse! It is conceived it the minds of these perverts. Be that as it may, the information in the Bible is scientific! Granting, without accepting, that there is such a thing as a ‘handful of dust’, whose hands will be the measuring hands for the dust that God will use in the formation of Adam? People who cremate the dead have an idea of how much dust will be left of the human body after cremation. I am sure it is not a sack of dust; but very close to a handful — depending on the hands that holds them. And why is it scientific? God made man from the dust; and when his body dies it decomposes and turns again to dust.

    (Genesis 3:19) “In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.”



    What are the scientific proof that man’s body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.



    The ignorance of these ‘imaginary people’ in what the Bible says betrays their alleged intelligence and knowledge in science. Of course, the human body is not made up only of dust, but God mixed the dust to water to produce clay. <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
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    (Job 10:9) “Remember, I beseech thee, that thou hast made me as the clay; and wilt thou bring me into dust again?”

    (Romans 9:20-21) “Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?”

    The mixture is clay, understandably contains more water than dust. Who says that the information in the Bible is scientifically nonsense? They are the one’s that are nonsensical, and not the Bible!

    The exact proportion of the minerals and materials, if maintained, make up a healthy human body (http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/er...21_98Size.html). Excesses in these materials will cause disorders and diseases. Excess of aluminum, for example, and iron, will be toxic for the human body. The proportions of the abundance of the 59 elements on the earths crust, is amazingly represented in its presence in the human body. Who says that the Bible is not scientific? These ‘imaginary and anti-scientific people’!

    from: http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/0...entific-proof/

    Peace!

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    interesting blog... but I just have few questions. With this information given:

    What are the scientific proof that man’s body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.

    What verses or pasages in the Bible that perfectly describes the following:

    OXYGEN = 65%
    CARBON = 18%
    HYDROGEN = 10%

    This means that human is made of 93% flesh... tama ba sir? Where is the remaining 7% of that composition? Now, where does 70% of water (Hydrogen/oxygen combined - what remains are other sources of minerals) fit into the picture? Don't get me wrong sir but this is just one of those ideas that something lacking... but all is well, sir, I'm just being inquisitive. God bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire
    interesting blog... but I just have few questions. With this information given:

    What are the scientific proof that man’s body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.

    What verses or pasages in the Bible that perfectly describes the following:

    OXYGEN = 65%
    CARBON = 18%
    HYDROGEN = 10%

    This means that human is made of 93% flesh... tama ba sir? Where is the remaining 7% of that composition? Now, where does 70% of water (Hydrogen/oxygen combined - what remains are other sources of minerals) fit into the picture? Don't get me wrong sir but this is just one of those ideas that something lacking... but all is well, sir, I'm just being inquisitive. God bless.

    oxygen,hydrogen,carbon is not mentioned in the bible. These are terms coined by human scientists that were not present durng the time of Moses.

    93% flesh? what do you mean by that?

    the other minerals are not mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire
    This means that human is made of 93% flesh... tama ba sir? Where is the remaining 7% of that composition? Now, where does 70% of water (Hydrogen/oxygen combined - what remains are other sources of minerals) fit into the picture? Don't get me wrong sir but this is just one of those ideas that something lacking... but all is well, sir, I'm just being inquisitive. God bless.
    bro I think you're making a mistake here.
    Naa ba diay sa link or post nga 93 percent ang flesh?
    Element ang giingon nga 93 percent bro og karon nangita ka sa 70% ng water( sure ka water or liquid)? Bro kindly review your source kung 70% water ba ang ato lawas. dili kaha 70% liquid/fluid.
    Its a fact that water is liquid but it doesn't follow that liquid will be considered directly as water.
    Where in science subject did you know that 70% water?

    Peace!

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    OT: bang butata... hehehe

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    Idontcare and rcruman:

    Let me be clear before we go out of throwing unrelated issues. Ang rason nako why I came up 93% of composition is that human is 100% flesh... just like Jesus Christ was. It came out short of adding natural minerals that made up us humans. di ba?

    Rcruman, I wasn't sleeping when I wrote it but let me quote you on one of the leading researchers in the field of medicine:

    "Medicine has based its understanding that it is solid matter in the body that regulates all functions of the body. I have explained scientifically at the molecular level that it is water that regulates all functions of the body including functions of solid matter. 75 % of our bodies are composed of water. The brain is 85% water. It is water that energizes and activates the solid matter. If you don’t take enough water, some functions of the body will suffer. Dehydration produces system disturbances. When I use the word water cure, I am referring to curing dehydration with water."

    Fereydoon Batmanghelidj, M.D. Member: CDC "


    Here's another:

    The organism and all of its component parts are made up of atoms and molecules of chemical elements. If we examine these elements and their distribution in our bodies we see the following percentages by body weight:

    Oxygen - 65.000 Sulfur - 0.25000 Iodine - 0.0001
    Carbon - 18.000 Sodium - 0.15000 Fluorine - 0.0001
    Hydrogen - 10.000 Chlorine - 0.15000 Silicon - 0.0001
    Nitrogen - 3.000 Magnesium - 0.05000 Copper - 0.0001
    Calcium - 2.000 Iron - 0.00400 Cobalt - 0.0001
    Phosphorus - 1.100 Zinc - 0.00020 Potassium - 0.350
    Manganese - 0.00013

    My source on these? Collier's Encyclopedia 2003 edition (Human anatomy and compostions). Or you can visit this site http://www.biology-online.org/9/1_ch...omposition.htm for more informations.

    Now, If you add them this comes to 100%. So, I guess this portion of my inquiries are valid. Besides, are we not discussing Bible here...? I think we are in the field of science now. I am not saying I am against the Bible, I am only inquisitive when people try to merge Bible (as a book of faith and salvation) to science. All is well brothers... God bless you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire
    Idontcare and rcruman:

    Let me be clear before we go out of throwing unrelated issues. Ang rason nako why I came up 93% of composition is that human is 100% flesh... just like Jesus Christ was. It came out short of adding natural minerals that made up us humans. di ba?

    Rcruman, I wasn't sleeping when I wrote it but let me quote you on one of the leading researchers in the field of medicine:

    "Medicine has based its understanding that it is solid matter in the body that regulates all functions of the body. I have explained scientifically at the molecular level that it is water that regulates all functions of the body including functions of solid matter. 75 % of our bodies are composed of water. The brain is 85% water. It is water that energizes and activates the solid matter. If you don’t take enough water, some functions of the body will suffer. Dehydration produces system disturbances. When I use the word water cure, I am referring to curing dehydration with water."

    Fereydoon Batmanghelidj, M.D. Member: CDC "


    Here's another:

    The organism and all of its component parts are made up of atoms and molecules of chemical elements. If we examine these elements and their distribution in our bodies we see the following percentages by body weight:

    Oxygen - 65.000 Sulfur - 0.25000 Iodine - 0.0001
    Carbon - 18.000 Sodium - 0.15000 Fluorine - 0.0001
    Hydrogen - 10.000 Chlorine - 0.15000 Silicon - 0.0001
    Nitrogen - 3.000 Magnesium - 0.05000 Copper - 0.0001
    Calcium - 2.000 Iron - 0.00400 Cobalt - 0.0001
    Phosphorus - 1.100 Zinc - 0.00020 Potassium - 0.350
    Manganese - 0.00013

    My source on these? Collier's Encyclopedia 2003 edition (Human anatomy and compostions). Or you can visit this site http://www.biology-online.org/9/1_ch...omposition.htm for more informations.

    Now, If you add them this comes to 100%. So, I guess this portion of my inquiries are valid. Besides, are we not discussing Bible here...? I think we are in the field of science now. I am not saying I am against the Bible, I am only inquisitive when people try to merge Bible (as a book of faith and salvation) to science. All is well brothers... God bless you!
    When you said flesh,what do you mean by it? Are you saying that there is no liquid in our bodies?

    all these datas are correct,so whats your point? are you asking if these stuffs are recorded in the bible? The bible only said that we came from the "dust of the ground" every thing that resembles the human body is made up of materials n minerals found on the surface of the earth.

    Now if those minerals n materials you presented can be found on earth then the bible is correct when it said that MAN came from the dust of the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdontCare
    When you said flesh,what do you mean by it? Are you saying that there is no liquid in our bodies?

    all these datas are correct,so whats your point? are you asking if these stuffs are recorded in the bible? The bible only said that we came from the "dust of the ground" every thing that resembles the human body is made up of materials n minerals found on the surface of the earth.

    Now if those minerals n materials you presented can be found on earth then the bible is correct when it said that MAN came from the dust of the ground.
    The point is, we should not interpret the bible literally. Why? Science now is advanced... we can say it has these and that but the Bible didn't mention any of these minerals... the fact is, our interpretation adds more to it... our advanced sciences describes these minerals not Bible. that's why I asked where can you find verses or passages that specifically describes the mineral composition of human body or man.

    As for your question about flesh, I think it's basic what flesh means. And for the last part of your post, dust could mean a lot of things. It could be metallic dust, house dust, dusts that brings in mites and tiny insects or dusts that strained by air and you'll see with microscopic devices that composes of quartz and oxides. So, yes and no... we may come from dust and no, we shouldn't interpret the Bible literally. All is well, God bless.

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    Another case of faulty "literalization" and faulty association of science to conveniently support a faulty preaching.

    The seemingly "scientific" way of explaining the dust-to-man dogma is of course not surprising. How else would a typical creationist explain it but associate it with a scientific data to make it appear as a valid and solid argument that man was made out of dust.

    For an ordinary Joe, he would easily be enamored by such mixture of "scientific eloquence" such as below:

    What are the scientific proof that man’s body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.

    If you're knowledge of science is limited, like most of us, one can be easily held captive and fall into accepting an elitist doctrine. And I take no exception on the above-quoted excerpt of Eli Soriano's blog which is just among a few good examples of how a widely-accepted scientific data in human Chemistry is taken out of context.

    Obviously, the earth is generally organic -- this is basic Chemistry or Chemistry 101. Don't you know that animals and other lower life forms are also composed of the very same basic elements man is also made of? Primates for example have the same chemical composition as man yet you will read in the Bible that primates were not made out of dust?!!!

    The same goes (chemical make-up) for the elephants, lions, cows and other mammals and such other animals and plants except they were not formed out of dust as you read them in the Bible. I wonder if Eli Soriano can make up another "scientific connection" why man had to be (made out of dust) only to find himself that he was made of the same banana as the animals Hmmmm...

    Further, if you're going to look at it or literally interpret the Bible, it would appear that God is unfair that he made man out of dust yet all other life forms that he created were formed out of a simple fiat like what you read in Gen1:24 "Let the earth bring forth living creatures of every kind: cattle and creeping things and wild animals of the earth of every kind." One can't help but ask why God did not make man in the same fashion as he did to the rest of his other creations.

    Haaay, literalism...<sigh>

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire
    Idontcare and rcruman:

    Let me be clear before we go out of throwing unrelated issues. Ang rason nako why I came up 93% of composition is that human is 100% flesh... just like Jesus Christ was. It came out short of adding natural minerals that made up us humans. di ba?
    bro asa man intawon ka kuha ani nga 100% flesh ang human?
    flesh ba ang dugo bro? flesh ba ang luha? flesh ba ang laway?
    gawas na lang siguro kung wala tay dugo, luha, og laway kay 100% flesh ta.
    Bro ayaw na pun-i imo sayop kay pila ra pag-admit nga nalipat ka. dili nako balik-balikon imo sayop, promise.

    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire
    Rcruman, I wasn't sleeping when I wrote it but let me quote you on one of the leading researchers in the field of medicine:

    "Medicine has based its understanding that it is solid matter in the body that regulates all functions of the body. I have explained scientifically at the molecular level that it is water that regulates all functions of the body including functions of solid matter. 75 % of our bodies are composed of water. The brain is 85% water. It is water that energizes and activates the solid matter. If you don’t take enough water, some functions of the body will suffer. Dehydration produces system disturbances. When I use the word water cure, I am referring to curing dehydration with water."

    Fereydoon Batmanghelidj, M.D. Member: CDC "


    Here's another:

    The organism and all of its component parts are made up of atoms and molecules of chemical elements. If we examine these elements and their distribution in our bodies we see the following percentages by body weight:

    Oxygen - 65.000 Sulfur - 0.25000 Iodine - 0.0001
    Carbon - 18.000 Sodium - 0.15000 Fluorine - 0.0001
    Hydrogen - 10.000 Chlorine - 0.15000 Silicon - 0.0001
    Nitrogen - 3.000 Magnesium - 0.05000 Copper - 0.0001
    Calcium - 2.000 Iron - 0.00400 Cobalt - 0.0001
    Phosphorus - 1.100 Zinc - 0.00020 Potassium - 0.350
    Manganese - 0.00013

    My source on these? Collier's Encyclopedia 2003 edition (Human anatomy and compostions). Or you can visit this site http://www.biology-online.org/9/1_ch...omposition.htm for more informations.

    Now, If you add them this comes to 100%. So, I guess this portion of my inquiries are valid. Besides, are we not discussing Bible here...? I think we are in the field of science now. I am not saying I am against the Bible, I am only inquisitive when people try to merge Bible (as a book of faith and salvation) to science. All is well brothers... God bless you!
    nya 100% flesh ang human? basahag balik imo quote kay "75 % of our bodies are composed of water." nya flesh diay ang water?

    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire
    I am not saying I am against the Bible, I am only inquisitive when people try to merge Bible (as a book of faith and salvation) to science. All is well brothers... God bless you!
    I'm not merging bible to science but science to the bible because Science don't have spirits while bible has spirit and science.

    Peace!

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