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  • Marcos

    16 51.61%
  • Erap

    8 25.81%
  • GMA

    7 22.58%
  • Ramos

    0 0%
  • Cory

    0 0%
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  1. #111

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    it woul be better for you to confirm first if there are 60% younger than 30 who are interviewed.

    Without it, we are engaging in speculations. all the more reason why Pulse Asia's survey is mere speculations. if they showed the breakdown of what the pool was comprised of, specifically age-brackets then I would think of it not any better than istorya's poll.

    given that both of us don't know the breakdown of the 1,200 surveyed as far as age is concerned and knowing that AGE is a very important aspect in this particular survey, then why believe in this survey in the first place?

    knowing that there's something missing, an important one at that, you'd still fall for it hook, line and sinker.
    Shut Up! Let your GAME do the talking!

  2. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by omad
    all the more reason why Pulse Asia's survey is mere speculations. if they showed the breakdown of what the pool was comprised of, specifically age-brackets then I would think of it not any better than istorya's poll.

    given that both of us don't know the breakdown of the 1,200 surveyed as far as age is concerned and knowing that AGE is a very important aspect in this particular survey, then why believe in this survey in the first place?

    knowing that there's something missing, an important one at that, you'd still fall for it hook, line and sinker.
    I believe the Pulse Asia survey methodology hav taken care of that problem of age bracketing. They are already experst in the business. I believe in the regularity of the survey. If you have doubts on it and you want to question, the burden is now on your part to prove it. The accuser should prove not the accused.

    The same cannot be said of here in istorya. Not a few unabashedly admit that they were not even born yet when EDSA 1 occured or if they ever be, they are too young to comprehend whats going on? So there is now a proof that the results of the ongoing poll saying Marcos is the most corrupt leader is according to individuals who are still toddlers during the Marcos regime.

    I can speak for myself. I am a martial law baby and I grew up in the martial law years which I think a lot of people cannot claim.

  3. #113

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    @balatucan:

    don't u see? that Pulse Asia survey was commissioned by Sonny Osmeña as intended for opposition use.
    it was not intended for public consumption in the first place.

    why? they have to use those kind of surveys for their own political strategies & propaganda come May 2010...same could be with the admin.

    and of course, we cant blame Osmeña for giving in to ABS-CBN to release the survey to the public...it's his prerogative. he could have his own reasons as a member of opposition.

    samot pa jud nga ABS CBN ang gitagaan nga somewhat perceived rba na cla nga anti-GMA.

    dat is y we cant blame some people to question the credibility of that survey...

    i know that survey groups like Pulse Asia follow statistical procedures by the book (and hey, Arroyo sells! this is still business) ...the more reason the executive, legislature, and the judiciary to exert more efforts on corruption issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omad
    how do you define corrupt? so we would be on the same page before we continue this discussion.
    If its not about how much money these people have stolen from the people, maybe they define it as who has done really really bad things.. example Marcos declaring martial law and depriving a lot of people of their freedoms and staying in power for years and years, therefore i consider Marcos is #1 on corruption. : )

  5. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by balatucan
    Newsbreak estimates the amounts involved in the alleged major corruption cases under the Arroyo administration. (In US dollars; based on a US$1=42 pesos exchange rate)

    IMPSA deal $ 2 million
    Diosdado Macapagal Blvd. 14 million
    Piatco 20 million
    Jose Pidal account 7.6 million
    US properties 7.1 million
    Fertilizer scam 17.3 million
    North Rail project 50 million
    NBN-ZTE deal 32.9 million
    Jueteng collections 10 million
    Palace cash handouts 3.8 million
    TOTAL $ 164.7 million
    Thanks for using alleged hehe.

  6. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by cebu-future
    Thanks for using alleged hehe.
    SAKTO GYUD BRO. Fond kau ning mga critics of overlooking the "alleged" word. murag wa kasabot sa meaning ana ba. if alleged, so not proven pa...
    ang kadaut, sabton na sa uban nga tinuod na...negative perception dayon ang labas. LOLZ

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    Default Re: Who's the most corrupt Philippine President ever SURVEY!

    Quote Originally Posted by cebu-future
    Thanks for using alleged hehe.
    Nobody can pin down Gloria as of now.She holds justice by taking allies from Congress thats why all the accusations against her were just scrap.but after her term is over,I know all thse allegations will be supported with evidence.Weather,weather lang yan.

  8. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy
    SAKTO GYUD BRO. Fond kau ning mga critics of overlooking the "alleged" word. murag wa kasabot sa meaning ana ba. if alleged, so not proven pa...
    ang kadaut, sabton na sa uban nga tinuod na...negative perception dayon ang labas. LOLZ
    Yes, its alleged. But the government were not answering these issues squarely. Most of the time they employ cover ups.

    Invited to attend to Senate hearings, they wont attend like Ched Chairman Romulo Neri who admitted he was stop from attending Senate hearings on orders of no less than Gloria Arroyo. . Some suddenly disappear like Garcillano, Joc joc Bolante and Lintang Bedol.

  9. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by godsaint
    Nobody can pin down Gloria as of now.She holds justice by taking allies from Congress thats why all the accusations against her were just scrap.but after her term is over,I know all thse allegations will be supported with evidence.Weather,weather lang yan.
    mere assumptions...period.

  10. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by cebu-future
    Thanks for using alleged hehe.
    Amen.

    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy
    mere assumptions...period.
    Another amen!

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