All About Trillianes~ He will be convicted.

[pandisal]

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ot. duda lagi gyud ko si SNMP/mosimos gyud nah... hahaha.. makalingaw!
nindot kaau speech.. kinopya ra diay to... lolz

[yokam]

[INFRACTION]

klaro kaau objectives ni trillanes mao na GREEDY mans POWER nyahahaha

[balatucan]

mosimos este balatucan... this is why conversations with you gets boring... you've never changed your style even just a little bit. everytime you run out of bullets, you then copy paste somebody else's work not even mentioning their initials making it appear to be your own.

who would want to engage you in an intelligent and mature conversation when you can't even resist copy pasting other's opinion?

now tell me who's the loser??
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A nation of Sancho Panzas
December 07, 2007 00:41:00
Raul Pangalangan
Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines -- Had Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim and Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV succeeded last Thursday, would we be hearing today from all the naysayers? Indeed, success has many fathers and defeat is an orphan. But to the Monday morning quarterbacks out there, I ask: Would you rather have celebrated a tainted victory?

Sure it would have helped to have some prominent opposition politicians around. But in all candor, wouldn’t you have been more wary to see the likes of House Speaker Jose de Venecia at The Peninsula Manila? Wasn’t it the best endorsement that the new “Peninsulares” were absent and nowhere to be found?

Sure it would have helped to have the “hakot” [bused-in] multitude, the crowd-for-rent bused in for the event just to provide the warm bodies for what the Supreme Court called the “hooting throng,” the better for TV cameras to pan and show the groundswell of public indignation. But shouldn’t we go for quality rather than quantity, and respect the feisty handful at The Peninsula even more for daring to stand up and be counted?

Sure it would have helped to have an orchestra conductor for the whole shebang, a Cardinal Sin-type who can coordinate a steady supply of intrepid souls willing to lay down their lives for a transcendent cause. But don’t we admire EDSA People Power I also because it was largely the spontaneous outpouring of pent-up frustrations with a kleptocratic dictator and his spouse? Shouldn’t we be more circumspect had there been a shadowy committee and its law firm running the show from, say, The Linden Suites in the Ortigas Center like at EDSA People Power II? Wouldn’t an unrehearsed rebel holdout at The Peninsula be more authentic than the orchestrated oath-taking at the EDSA Shrine?

If at all there was anything worrisome about The Peninsula standoff, it wasn’t that they were so few. It was that they could have actually pulled it off without a civilian component, and that if the military reinforcements had not been blocked, bought off, or preempted, we would have had our first coup d’état without the façade of a civilian cover. Marcos staged a coup against Congress in cahoots with his “Rolex 12” generals and, with a little help from a pliant Supreme Court, called it “constitutional authoritarianism.” The two EDSA People Power events were, to use the felicitous but not entirely truthful catchwords, civilian-led but military-backed uprisings.

So now, some Filipinos exclaim in disgust: Oh, Lim and Trillanes thought they could pull it off without our help? But I recall, the last time around, on that memorable day of Feb. 24, 2006, that was exactly what Brigadier General Lim did. With far more civilians involved, the element of surprise was inevitably compromised -- and people then concluded: The plotters should’ve kept the secret to themselves!

Do not feign surprise at this latest attempt to oust Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. It has been long in coming. “They who make peaceful change impossible make violent revolution inevitable,” said John F. Kennedy. I was rushing my high school and college sons through the JFK museum in Boston when, to my surprise, they lingered at video-clips of JFK’s speeches, something my wife and I aren’t used to whenever we corral them into museums. If these words can move my sons, otherwise more attuned to winning medals for the University of the Philippines varsity judo team, going to the gym, biking on hillsides and enjoying their youth in ways I’d rather not know, what will it take to move our nation?

There was some virtue in The Peninsula holdouts’ shortcomings, yet the Filipino masses did not rally to their flag because for the Filipino today, politics has little to do with virtue and all to do with personal survival.

“Filipinos are all so prudent. That is why our country is as it is,” Jose Rizal wrote to Mariano Ponce, as quoted by the Inquirer for its third by-invitation only briefing. Prudence, as the saying goes, is the better part of valor. The Katipunan itself faced such apathy, and resorted to falsely implicating some ilustrados into collaborating with the rebels. We have long forgotten the spirit of the saying “Carpe Diem,” Seize the Day -- Seize “The Pen.”

We crucify the Don Quixotes and sanctify the Sancho Panzas ever craving for the petty dukeships we covet. We deride Quixote’s Dulcinea because she was not real and was a mere figment of his fertile imagination. We mock the dreamers whose dreams we had the power to give -- and then blame them that we didn’t.

We treat revolutions and coup attempts as if we had absolutely nothing to do with them. We externalize political events as something wholly distinct from our private lives and choices. Sad to say, that is so incorrect. If we are truly a democracy, rebellions should win only with our support or be doomed to lose without it. But now we prefer to be mere spectators, a democracy of onlookers who sit on the sidelines waiting for the smoke to clear … and to cheer on the victor. Faced with a historical moment, we hedged our bets, and chose to wager not on the basis of who’s right and who’s wrong, but rather on the basis of whose side has more guns and tanks.

For that very reason, the Arroyo administration must kid itself not and depict its Peninsula triumph as a validation of its reign of greed. The mass of Filipinos chastised Lim and Trillanes not because they tried to oust Arroyo. Filipinos were disappointed because they failed. Filipinos stayed away from the Peninsula not because they loved Arroyo but because they had many fears if the coup won, and even more fears if it failed. It was the skeptical cost-benefit calculus of people too often used and abused in the past. But, as the saying goes, “Beware the fury of the patient man.”

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I copy and pasted the article of Raul Pangalangan in my blog THE MT. BALATUCAN MONITOR (http://balatucan.wordpress.com). Just copy pasted it here.

I am asking you the question who is mosimos but you wont answer. Whats he doing? and why you keep on insisting it.

[balatucan]

Omad, seems to divert the issue. I guess this is his tack because he cannot refute what I am saying in this post!
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"What apples and oranges? We're not talking about crimes, we're talking about being convicted or not.

Its very hard to argue with someone who changes issue in every corner.

Attending the sessions is not special treatment. Special treatment is allowing a prisoner to go malling, to have TV, DVD, aircon like Romeo Jalosjos.

Besides Trillanes is not a convict like Jalosjos. But yet a convict enjoys more privileges than an accused who is still presumed innocent. The difference lies in that Jalosjos made GMA win in his district plus Jalosjos become a member of Kampi. Thats the Rule of Law for GMA."
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[jheartfred]

I would definitley say MAR ROXAS !

And hopefully si Tomas ang running mate niya na if mo daog gani , Cebu is really taken care of at the fullest extent but I doubt . Hadlok si Tomas ug rejection na mapildi unya and Cebu will taken away from him .

for me da most qualified in terms of resources is MANNY VILLAR... for running mate id go for someone from cebu or davao...

[Tha Truth]

We treat revolutions and coup attempts as if we had absolutely nothing to do with them. We externalize political events as something wholly distinct from our private lives and choices. Sad to say, that is so incorrect. If we are truly a democracy, rebellions should win only with our support or be doomed to lose without it. But now we prefer to be mere spectators, a democracy of onlookers who sit on the sidelines waiting for the smoke to clear … and to cheer on the victor. Faced with a historical moment, we hedged our bets, and chose to wager not on the basis of who’s right and who’s wrong, but rather on the basis of whose side has more guns and tanks.

This guy has a good point kung sakto man gani akong pagsabot..

If you're talking about the dudes being keeponTALKintosh revolutionists then you're right. Some of us keep on blunting out on forums "we want a revolution!" but the sad thing is they are just bench sitters cheering on the game BUT talk about how they want to make a change on i-net sites..Like wtf?! Is being a revolutionist a fad now?

And honestly speaking our system is f' d up. Every figure in this country has a selfish motive on its own. Its just a cycle, haven't you guys noticed? We are played as pawns in a chessboard. There is no change coming. There is no revolution so stop blabbering air to a crowd of winds.You know what i mean?
The only thing you have is the awareness of whats really going on and the least you could do is share opinions about it but not to the point that you shove it to other people's throats..Oki?
Carry on boys and girls and play nice...

[jheartfred]

Omad, seems to divert the issue. I guess this is his tack because he cannot refute what I am saying in this post!
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"What apples and oranges? We're not talking about crimes, we're talking about being convicted or not.

Its very hard to argue with someone who changes issue in every corner.

Attending the sessions is not special treatment. Special treatment is allowing a prisoner to go malling, to have TV, DVD, aircon like Romeo Jalosjos.

Besides Trillanes is not a convict like Jalosjos. But yet a convict enjoys more privileges than an accused who is still presumed innocent. The difference lies in that Jalosjos made GMA win in his district plus Jalosjos become a member of Kampi. Thats the Rule of Law for GMA."
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clearly ur not reading the papers lately.. this is not da jalosjos thread.. dont use it here... this is the THRILLA thread... akoy judge ha: irrelevant..period

[jheartfred]

This guy has a good point kung sakto man gani akong pagsabot..

If you're talking about the dudes being keeponTALKintosh revolutionists then you're right. Some of us keep on blunting out on forums "we want a revolution!" but the sad thing is they are just bench sitters cheering on the game BUT talk about how they want to make a change on i-net sites..Like !!!?! Is being a revolutionist a fad now?

And honestly speaking our system is f' d up. Every figure in this country has a selfish motive on its own. Its just a cycle, haven't you guys noticed? We are played as pawns in a chessboard. There is no change coming. There is no revolution so stop blabbering air to a crowd of winds.You know what i mean?
The only thing you have is the awareness of whats really going on and the least you could do is share opinions about it but not to the point that you shove it to other people's throats..Oki?
Carry on boys and girls and play nice...

bro dont use "our system" coz that our system ur saying didnt go out and supported the call of thrilla... yes we want change and admit it or not its happening.. we have a booming economy, the peso is stronger now after 7years... the stock is high and best thing of all employent is going up...

[balatucan]

we have a booming economy, the peso is stronger now after 7years... the stock is high and best thing of all employent is going up...

I disagree that we have a booming economy. The World Bank Data shows

FDI (foreign direct investments)

2000 (Erap) 2005 (Glo)
$2.2 Billion $1.1 Billion


GDP (growth - annual)
2000 (Erap) 2005 (Glo)
6.0 % 5.4 %


OFW remittance
2000 (Erap) 2006 (Glo)
$ 6.2 Billion $ 14.9 Billion

h t t p://devdata.worldbank.org/external/CPProfile.asp?PTYPE=CP&CCODE=PHL

If you observed figures under Gloria for growth decline but the OFW remittances increased significantly. This means in Gloria Arroyo's presidency, more and more people go abroad to find jobs. And this remittances make the economy afloat, a boast that GMA would always harp as her achievement in turning around the economy.