On Tithes and Offerings...

[rcruman]

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@rcruman
- Jesus faced his accusers and did not run away... Peter faced death... Pope PaulII faced his assasin and forgave him.. si soriano asa man? hahahahahahaha lupad kay "S" gud as in "Captain Soriano Man" brader ni Superman+ CaptainAmerica hehe mulupad unya iya shield kay iya mga followers hehehehe nagpatabon hahahaha.... JOKE PEACE

sure ka ani bro nga wala nidagan si Christ sa dihang dakpon siya? (pero sa panahon na gyud nagpadakop na siya).
Peter faced death? I think you should read the bible more than listening to tsismis, Peter denied Christ thrice because he feared death. (wala ka kahibalo ani?)
About Pope Paul II its assassin not arrest, get the relevance of your example?
Bro Soriano is not hiding, our lawyer were into his case and will come back if ordered by the court.
Its a false accuse towards him, see all the complainant its now at the camp of INC (coincidence o something fishy?).
Manalo and INC can't face bro ELY in a debate and all they can do is to put cases on him to scare him but it makes them more obvious, there using this government.

Ako sa tambag sa imoha basaha balik ang bible aron makahibalo ka nga sa dihang dili pa panahon ni Christ kay nagtago siya og si Pedro nilimod katulo kay hadlok patyon or iapil. Nya kang Pope Paul II kay assassination to dili to arrest og wala siya kahibalo nga pusilon siya atong adlawa or orasa.

Ang gilikayan ni Bro Eli kay ang gubot nga mahitabo kung dakpon siya kay naay maamong or naay dili musugot nga dakpon siya so delikado magkagubot. SO paabot lang kung mo-order ang supreme court kay muanhi siya.
Og wala siya nagtago, he is broadcasting in the PODcast and via satellite everyday.
ang magtago kay dili magpakita, gets mo.

PEace!

[rcruman]

Don't have to rcruman, your church will not survive if no one will give money. That's the interest I'm talking about. Spare me the innocence.

who says that we don't need money?
We need money but we give according to the dectates of hearts.
Even Christ commanded to give, but its according to the purpose.
Then its for you to find out the expenses of the church.
The enter of money must be visible and the expense must be visible.
Let us see who among the Churches here in the world has more expenses than the donation/contribution of the member.
Magkwentahay lang ta sa gastuson bro mahilom na imo pagduda.

Can you give the amount of expenses in broadcasting live worldwide weekly?
Can you give the amount of expenses in sustaining hospitals, orphanage, schools and medicine?
Can you give the amount of expenses in distributing CD's to brethren just to reach them more?
Can you give the amount of expenses in broadcasting in RADIO?
Can you give the amount of expenses in broadcasting nationwide in many stations?

now do the numbers because you're working in the bank.
All of our contributions has receipt and it will be counted with many representatives for transparency.

If you still insist then, Ginoo nalang ang mag-igo sa imoha.

PEace!

[Mr.Ho_chia]

igorot pata ron kung walay gobyerno...

now let us see.. If God told me to do something like "Do this In remembrance of Me" Buhat dayon ko... pero kanang tithes na murag binu-ang... ayayaya basin nag feed nata sa demonyo unya ana unya God ato huna2x lisod kaayo na I do not support Demons... not even in the name of God...

Igorot and all the rest of the ethnic group naa pud na clang their own form of government and taxation is as well part of any goernment, bayad lan ghapon ka, mabuhinan lang ghapon imong kita, waly swerte sobra pa sa tithing. hehe.

mao na ginatawag nga a kingdom divided by itself will fall. Unta bag-o ta moapil ana nga organization, masimbahan, ma gobieyrno, ma ngo pana, we should know what that org stands for, unsa ilang kinaiya, pamalakad, unsay ginatudlo ug tanang detalye kung mahimo, maka provide bani sila sa ako growth, o na ngilad rani cla?

if after cheking it means a whole world for us to join by all means, support your org, your government, your church, your NGO........ kung dili ka support ana kay wa ka nituo, pangita lain o dba pagbuhat imo.

kay sa kaning kalibutan walay pugsanay, each of us has the right to decide for ourselves, but who are we to point our finger and start accusing people of wrong doings kung kita mismo dli pud ta cgurado sa atong self.

[bluefairy]

Don't have to rcruman, your church will not survive if no one will give money. That's the interest I'm talking about. Spare me the innocence.

I don't think any Church or organization would survive without money.

[dartzed]

Don't have to rcruman, your church will not survive if no one will give money. That's the interest I'm talking about. Spare me the innocence.

kinsa man sad maaung laki na makasurvive na walay kwarta esp. krn panahona?.. usa pah ang church kana kwarta na ila madawat dili man guro na para sa church ra natural naa gud living na naa sa church alangan d na nimo pakan.on, tagaan ug clothes ug unsa pah..

"Give me all the tithes and i'll be rich and famous... " nakasulti lang ka ani ky daghan cla members na concern sa ila church ug willing jud mudonate for the good of their religion...

ay sus sad nimo oi its common sense...

[amingb]

nagpa-ila lang gyud ka sa imong pagkaignorante dong. I will nopt even validate this question with an answer haaaaaayy.... think before you post[br]Posted on: December 03, 2007, 09:09:49 PM_________________________________________________
walay divorce ang pinas the last time I checked the law. Ayaw padala sa iyang pagka ignorante.[br]Posted on: December 03, 2007, 09:11:25 PM_________________________________________________
Which congregation? hahahahahaha wala man gani ka nagpahibalo... tago gyud... ambot ngano.. hahahahaha ako I am proud to say that I am a Catholic...


so you are giving in the hope of reaping? wow! ako hatag kay hatag dili na murag negosyo na naa capital then interest... tsk tsk tsk

will answer all other questions and statements later kay medjo busy pako...

Bawal ang magpasakit ug sulti diri Istorya2x lang ...... ayaw pag hinambugero/hamgbugera

Kanang Divorce or Annulment parihas rana storyaha nagbulag ang mag asawa .... wala divorce law sa pinas pero naa annul ... mao rana storyaha ...

[amingb]

Born again? Daghan man born again bro... kamo to ang symbol kay egg unya naa chick sa kilid? Kay born again kuno? which born again bro... daghan sad pastor bro dili lang sad born again... almost all protestants pastor na... come on.. pa ila sad ba...

I am not boastful bro and I am not mocking you. Sayop diay ako gi sulti?. mao lang gyud na tinu-od.. kung naay ma reap bonus nana og dili sad na nato balibaran but kung wala I wont even notice. For me gift enough na ang gift of life.. para nakasulay sad ta unsa nang nabuhi... reward enough nana bro although filled with problems ta, dili nato negosyohon ang Lord.

As for madani ko sa inyo religion wala ko nagthink ana so dont put words in my mouth. Bisan asa paka na congregation or whatever naa gyud na either of these (protestants)...

sola scriptura,
sola fide,
problems with communion,
problems with idolatry daw,
problems with child baptism,
problems with celebration of the holy mass,
problems with priests being called father,
problems with confession,
problems with the pope,
problems with deutro canonicals,
problems with tradition,
problems with priests not given the priviledge of marriage and ironically problem with some priests getting married,
problems with Mary "Whore of Babylon" daw (ingna si Christ ana ha inig kita nimo niya kamo na storya ana)
problems with why sunday is the day of mass when supposedly daw saturday...
naa gyud pastor na murag know it all kuno kaayo and dili gyud masayop daw unya kung mo research ka pwerte diay sayopa
some dili gani mu tu-o na cross ang gi gamit pag crucify ni Christ pole ra daw (7th Day Adventist and dili ni hearsay... I studied in one of their schools abroad)
problems with Catholics being called Christians
problems with Peter being the Rock
problems with Peter being the 1st Pope
problems with Saints
problems with everything entirely!....

Did I miss anything?

Ayaw ko ingna wala ko kasabot ninyo kay kasabot ko (gikan ko diha and wala ko nagpalaboy2x diha nag kat-on ko). Mao na ni voice out ko diri kay nakasabot ko ninyo.

Naa pay nagsulti diri na nag Protestant daw siya kay gipabasa daw siya og Bible sa usa ka protestant mao na ni hawa siya sa Catholic!
Kinsa man nag ingon dili pwede mu basa ang Catholic og Bible? Ngano nihawa man siya na wala paman gani siya nakat-on sa iya Old Catholic Religion iya na dayon gi brand as Evil and Daotan kay naa lang tao ni sulti ana? Gi pasinganlan dayon ang religion sa iya pagka ignoy og pagkatapolan mu basa og Bible...

Catholics dont spoon feed you and take all your hard earned money away after. No pressures ni amoa... It is up to you to pressure yourself and learn the Catholic ways...

Mura ako mana imoha pasabot ... Kabalo ka unsay Born Again ... Can You Explain Please ..

Sakit lagi ma manulti mura personal please ayaw lang ana .... Istorya2x lang ta ...

[makusama]

asa dapit ang personal bro? kanang ni ingon ko na tapolan ka mu basa og Bible katong Katoliko paka? You said it yourself... ni basa raka og Bible kato naa protestant ni sulti nimo.. diba? namakak ko bro? Wala diay nimo gi brand as Evil bro ang Katoliko? Igjnorance is the lack of knowledge diba bro? Kung wala paka kabasa sa Bible diba ignorante paka diba? Kung wala ka nibasa pasabot gi tapol ka og basa so tapolan ka ato na time diba?


Asa sayop nako bro?

Unsa may labot ana sa imong pagkaborn again? mao ni gi pang ending nako oh...

Catholics dont spoon feed you and take all your hard earned money away after. No pressures ni amoa... It is up to you to pressure yourself and learn the Catholic ways...

asa diha ang personalan bro? I even listed down all the problems and questions that protestants have with us Catholics to show you that I am aware of your claims and rebellion and its reasons... kalma lang bro murag ikaw man ang nagpersonal sa imo self

[diem]

[color=navy]Locking this thread temporarily to clean it up of its OFF-TOPIC posts.

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[pijavier]

Mga Istoryans, I have a question/survey.

Do you give your tithes and offering sa church? Why or why not?

Definition: Tithes - 10% of all income, Offering - anything beyond the tithe