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  1. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Lisora ana imo ask bro oi .....

    Allah - the Moon God

    The Archeology of The Middle East

    The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre- Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre- Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

    sorry bro just asking!
    thanks anyway! :mrgreen:

  2. #82

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    i mentioned these words before....

    What can I say? Many priests, pastors and church 'leaders' are the biggest hypocrites you will ever encounter and consequently some of the most morally repugnant people out there.

    They are the Pharisees and Sadducees of our age - twisting and perverting spiritual teachings to serve their own purposes. If a jesus christ-like person appeared today and exposed them for what they are, these "priests" and "pastors" will certainly be the first ones to call for such a person's destruction much like how the jewish church leaders of christ's time conspired to have him arrested and crucified by the romans.

    What did Jesus call the church authority figures of his time? Oh yeah... a generation of vipers and a brood of poisonous snakes... the pattern just repeats itself today.





  3. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by anti-christ
    i mentioned these words before....

    What can I say? Many priests, pastors and church 'leaders' are the biggest hypocrites you will ever encounter and consequently some of the most morally repugnant people out there.

    They are the Pharisees and Sadducees of our age - twisting and perverting spiritual teachings to serve their own purposes. If a jesus christ-like person appeared today and exposed them for what they are, these "priests" and "pastors" will certainly be the first ones to call for such a person's destruction much like how the jewish church leaders of christ's time conspired to have him arrested and crucified by the romans.

    What did Jesus call the church authority figures of his time? Oh yeah... a generation of vipers and a brood of poisonous snakes... the pattern just repeats itself today.





    do you have names? documents stating records of immoral spiritual leaders?
    Or is this just your imagination working? Or is this just you stereotyping and generalising ?

    you know what its better if you can show us records/documents, why? because you are maligning the dignity of other innocent spiritual leaders.

  4. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by anti-christ
    i mentioned these words before....

    What can I say? Many priests, pastors and church 'leaders' are the biggest hypocrites you will ever encounter and consequently some of the most morally repugnant people out there.

    They are the Pharisees and Sadducees of our age - twisting and perverting spiritual teachings to serve their own purposes. If a jesus christ-like person appeared today and exposed them for what they are, these "priests" and "pastors" will certainly be the first ones to call for such a person's destruction much like how the jewish church leaders of christ's time conspired to have him arrested and crucified by the romans.

    What did Jesus call the church authority figures of his time? Oh yeah... a generation of vipers and a brood of poisonous snakes... the pattern just repeats itself today.




    Correct. but to say all of them is hypocrites is hypocracy at its worst, don't you think so? naa man siguro mapili ana nila, saman pud nato dri tanan, naa may people with admirable character.


    @amingb

    Al'lah is the Moon god? i thought he is the sun god of the muslim, that's why when the muslims pray they face the sun.

  5. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by anti-christ
    i mentioned these words before....

    What can I say? Many priests, pastors and church 'leaders' are the biggest hypocrites you will ever encounter and consequently some of the most morally repugnant people out there.

    They are the Pharisees and Sadducees of our age - twisting and perverting spiritual teachings to serve their own purposes. If a jesus christ-like person appeared today and exposed them for what they are, these "priests" and "pastors" will certainly be the first ones to call for such a person's destruction much like how the jewish church leaders of christ's time conspired to have him arrested and crucified by the romans.

    What did Jesus call the church authority figures of his time? Oh yeah... a generation of vipers and a brood of poisonous snakes... the pattern just repeats itself today.




    hehehe your right!!...

    but "many" is not equall to "all"

    hehehe

  6. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ho_chia

    @amingb

    Al'lah is the Moon god? i thought he is the sun god of the muslim, that's why when the muslims pray they face the sun.
    hahahahaha! nice one bro! :mrgreen:

  7. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdontCare

    do you have names? documents stating records of immoral spiritual leaders?
    Or is this just your imagination working? Or is this just you stereotyping and generalising ?

    you know what its better if you can show us records/documents, why? because you are maligning the dignity of other innocent spiritual leaders.
    and
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ho_chia
    Correct. but to say all of them is hypocrites is hypocracy at its worst, don't you think so? naa man siguro mapili ana nila, saman pud nato dri tanan, naa may people with admirable character.


    @amingb

    Al'lah is the Moon god? i thought he is the sun god of the muslim, that's why when the muslims pray they face the sun.
    READ my post carefully...

    where in the world did I mention ALL spiritual leaders

    hahay...did I hit a nerve or something?



  8. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by anti-christ
    and
    READ my post carefully...

    where in the world did I mention ALL spiritual leaders

    hahay...did I hit a nerve or something?


    not at all, no nerve hit sir It was hypothetical if we say "all" so kung dili way problema na. Ako ra pud g- qualify nga dili tanan, the same in any organization.

  9. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ho_chia
    not at all, no nerve hit sir It was hypothetical if we say "all" so kung dili way problema na. Ako ra pud g- qualify nga dili tanan, the same in any organization.
    hypothetical....nice excuse, lets review what you posted....shall we??

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ho_chia
    Correct. but to say all of them is hypocrites is hypocracy at its worst, don't you think so? naa man siguro mapili ana nila, saman pud nato dri tanan, naa may people with admirable character.
    hmmm, but to say all of them....i never said ALL of them. putting words in my mouth, eh??
    **saying ALL isnt hypothetical...thats exclusivity...absolutism.

  10. #90

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    God gave us a choice whether to give or not. It is up to us. Unfortunately Man man wants more.. it is man that gives you quotas... percentages... and these greedy forceful collections.. tsk tsk tsk...

    a man earning 100,000 pesos per month will be giving 10,000 per month to "your" church? hahahaha thats more than what 500 ordinary catholics give in their whole lifetime.. no wonder target ani na mga church ka ang mga rich extra lang ang poor kay walay ika amot hehehehe

    Dato man lagi gihapon ang Catholic Church you ask? Well whatever richness it attained at the present moment gikan na sa people who are willing to give not to the people na gi tulis sa simbahan!

    10% of your hard earned money is pure Highway robbery!

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