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  1. #31

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    Amoa simbahan Open Books puede ka tan-aw sa General Ledger naay Report Monthly sa mga expenses

    Mobayad pa jud ug Tax kay Register mana sa SEC pero optional rana.

    Mo pay ta ug tax aron maka Help ta sa economy ... mo pay ta tax kay kanang church naa biya na income .. dili na dapat exempted ...

    Kinahanglan jud na offerings para ma buhi ang congregation ug wala kuarta unsaon man pag lihok ... kanang tights wala na sakto to kang RCruman ...

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed
    naa sad sa amo bro daghan au priest na pubre try ad2 ug parish na lau sa civilization... dba kita ka unsa kapait ila kinabuhi... ultimo ila sultana tinapakan ug tahi...
    Paita sa ...

    Saon ning kuarta sa Roman Catholic ang income sa simbahan adto man lagpot sa Vatican ... gamay nalang mahabilin ... Ang Vatican maoy pinakadato sa tibook kalibotan ... unya ang ultimo sutana sa pari tinapakan

    Duda man ta kinsay nawong ug kuarta aning mga simabahan karon ....

  3. #33

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    WHERE THE VATICAN WEALTH IS STORED


    A clutch of paragraphs from THE VATICAN BILLIONS by Avro Manhattan:

    "The Vatican has large investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States it has large investments with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, and others. The Vatican has billions of shares in the most powerful international corporations such as Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A., etc. At a conservative estimate, these amount to more than 500 million dollars in the U.S.A. alone.

    "In a statement published in connection with a bond prospectus, the Boston archdiocese listed its assets at Six Hundred and Thirty-five Million ($635,891,004), which is 9.9 times its liabilities. This leaves a net worth of Five Hundred and Seventy-one million dollars ($571,704,953). It is not difficult to discover the truly astonishing wealth of the church, once we add the riches of the twenty-eight archdioceses and 122 dioceses of the U.S.A., some of which are even wealthier than that of Boston.

    "Some idea of the real estate and other forms of wealth controlled by the Catholic church may be gathered by the remark of a member of the New York Catholic Conference, namely 'that his church probably ranks second only to the United States Government in total annual purchase.' Another statement, made by a nationally syndicated Catholic priest, perhaps is even more telling. 'The Catholic Church,' he said, 'must be the biggest corporation in the United States. We have a branch office in every neighborhood. Our assets and real estate holdings must exceed those of Standard Oil, A.T.&T., and U.S. Steel combined. And our roster of dues-paying members must be second only to the tax rolls of the United States Government.'


    "The Catholic church, once all her assets have been put together, is the most formidable stockbroker in the world. The Vatican, independently of each successive pope, has been increasingly orientated towards the U.S. The Wall Street Journal said that the Vatican's financial deals in the U.S. alone were so big that very often it sold or bought gold in lots of a million or more dollars at one time.

    "The Vatican's treasure of solid gold has been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to several billion dollars. A large bulk of this is stored in gold ingots with the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, while banks in England and Switzerland hold the rest. But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country. When to that is added all the real estate, property, stocks and shares abroad, then the staggering accumulation of the wealth of the Catholic church becomes so formidable as to defy any rational assessment.

    "The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. The pope, as the visible ruler of this immense amassment of wealth, is consequently the richest individual of the twentieth century. No one can realistically assess how much he is worth in terms of billions of dollars."

    It's all JUST MERGERS & ACQUISITIONS....


    UNSA MANI PUERTING DAGHANA KUARTA SA VATICAN ASA MANANG KUARTAHA KARON GI TABANG BANA SA MGA GIPANG GUTOM SA MGA MASAKITON .......




  4. #34

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    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...833509,00.html


    KLARO NA KAAU KINSA ANG SIMBAHAN NGA NEGOSYANTE .................

  5. #35

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    ANG VATICAN CGE UG DAWAT DAGHAN KUARTA MO HATAG GINAGMAY ... SUBRA PAS TIGHTS NA ILAHA ...

    MGA CATHOLICO NGA MGA POBRE WALAY KALIBOTAN GI ILAD LANG CLA ANANG VATICAN ....

  6. #36

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    BANTOG RA MAG ILOG KINSA ANG POPE PUERTING DAGHAN DIAY KUARTA .....

  7. #37

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    Jesus, the founder of Christianity, was the poorest of the poor. Roman Catholicism, which claims to be His church, is the richest of the rich, the wealthiest institution on earth.


  8. #38

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    "What would Christ do if He could see? What would He, who rode on a donkey, think about the luxurious car, with the ornate throne as a seat? What would He say, if He saw the portfolio of the Vatican (stock-market) shares? What would He do if He saw all the treasures of the Vatican, treasures which could be used to alleviate ignorance by improving education? What would be His reaction to the comfortable lives of the members of the Curia? If Christ suddenly appeared in the middle of St. Peter's Square and said: "Leave your riches and follow me," I wonder how many would. I'd like to know what would happen to Him if He knocked on the Vatican door saying: "You speak in my name. You invoke me. I have come to tell you that you are misinterpreting my teachings." But I know exactly what would happen. The authorities would instantly call the Roman police, in accordance with the Lateran Agreements of 1929, and accuse Him of being anti-establishment, and of disturbing the peace. He would not be judged as before, however, but sent to a mental ward and classified as a maniac impersonator of Jesus Christ.'- Monsignor Semprione


  9. #39

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    Christ told the rich man to give his riches to the "poor", which was the disciples' collective purse or "kitty" and to follow Him; His teaching and example.

    What do the popes do? They take money from the poor and give it to the rich; hoarding it in the Vatican's vaults (creating mass poverty) - the OPPOSITE of what Christ said His followers must do.

    IF the popes work for Christ, why do they do the OPPOSITE of what they were commanded to do?

  10. #40

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    Come on Pope of Rome. Do the honourable thing - open up the vaults and give all the riches back to the poor, that they were taken from, and teach other rich people, by YOUR example, to do the same and then RESIGN; learn to sing "The New Song" and keep The Covenant, as you are commanded by Christ. Thereby ending crime brought about by deprivation and desperation; bringing peace and prosperity to the world, instead of to the few.

    You and I both know that you dare NOT do it because they would KILL you. Go on! Do it; IF you have ANY faith!

    Christ says, and it is written, "Be not afraid - of those who can kill only your body. Fear only those who can kill both body (human) and soul (Being) on the Last-Day, when you are found unworthy." (Matt. 10 v 2. Why don't YOU take your OWN advice? "Be not afraid!" You tell everybody else to do it. "Be not afraid!"

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