Working and Living in Norway

[pepponeskie]

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Well, bisag asa krn sa Oil and Gas same ang situation, even dria sa lugar na akoa gitrabahuan cgeg layoff. Might as well take this chance kung mao ra ghapon.

Thanks for the concern pero ang company/client mismo maoy nag refer sa akoa CV ngadto sa agency, then the agency contacted me. Agency is a well known name, nag supply pud cla og mga personnel not only in Norway but internationally.

I'm not planning to bring my family immediately, bali "test the waters" lang usa ko, to know the situation over there.

Let me guess...Aibel?

Mao sad na style sa mga dagku nga company, like NOV, Subsea 7, etc...ky e thru agency nila ang employee. Ang rason ana kay sayun ra e terminate sa tawo. Kay dri kung permanent employee ka, kuti kaau mag terminate nimo. Naa pay uban nga ma kaso gyud sa korte. Og dri, seniority really matters.

Downside if your working on those agency, is dili sila pa alkansi sa pay cut. Medyo lubagon nila aron makakwarta sila. Pero that's business lang jud.

I was supposed to be hired by NOV on 2014. But thru agency pod. Same sa gi describe nimo. Pero wa ko ni dayun kay I received an offer as permanent sa isa ka drilling company. And for 7 yrs I survived the waves of layoffs, until it caught me. I was the youngest kay ang g sundan nko nga na layoff pod is 17yrs. After that, I received several offers ra pod gikan sa mga referrals og networks nga ex-colleagues. Pero ang ako g accept nga offer from a start up company...it is important not to burn the bridges and build good relationship sa mga colleagues.

Ok ra man og mo go ka ana nga offer. Pero as I've said, andam2x lng and consider the worst condition nga e layoff ka or Endo. Note nga dili pa ka ma covered sa support sa layoff gikan sa gobyerno kung wala pa kay 1yr.

Kung ma layoff ka, unya plano nimo mangapply ug laing trabaho, the hard fact here is most of the jobs are thru referrals or networks. And the current situation karon, mag lisod ug sulod ang foreigner kung dili maka norsk. "Some" employers kay mo ignore sa imong CV basta dili norwegian ang pangan.

Mo site ko ug example sa akong mga kaila sa Stavanger pod. O&G pod...ang isa ka kaila nko agency pod, after a year gikuha nya iyang family. Samtang nag work pa cya sa agency, among gibtambagan nga mangita ug permanent nga employment pero he ignored. Sadly, ni abot jud ang point nga ga lisod jud cya. Pero maau kay karon naka survive.

Another kaila nako agency gikan, unya g absorbed sa iyang g trabahuan. Unya usa pa nya nakuha iya pamilya. Pero after 6yrs na layoff cya. Fortunately, naka work ra pod cya thru networks of ex-colleagues....pero kini cya wala ra nag lisod unlike sa usa.

In other words, mas maau gyud ug naa kay firm offer as permanent position. But, you could also have project or contractual offers para maka suway pod ka diri...it's all up to you.

[pierced]

Let me guess...Aibel?

Mao sad na style sa mga dagku nga company, like NOV, Subsea 7, etc...ky e thru agency nila ang employee. Ang rason ana kay sayun ra e terminate sa tawo. Kay dri kung permanent employee ka, kuti kaau mag terminate nimo. Naa pay uban nga ma kaso gyud sa korte. Og dri, seniority really matters.

Downside if your working on those agency, is dili sila pa alkansi sa pay cut. Medyo lubagon nila aron makakwarta sila. Pero that's business lang jud.

I was supposed to be hired by NOV on 2014. But thru agency pod. Same sa gi describe nimo. Pero wa ko ni dayun kay I received an offer as permanent sa isa ka drilling company. And for 7 yrs I survived the waves of layoffs, until it caught me. I was the youngest kay ang g sundan nko nga na layoff pod is 17yrs. After that, I received several offers ra pod gikan sa mga referrals og networks nga ex-colleagues. Pero ang ako g accept nga offer from a start up company...it is important not to burn the bridges and build good relationship sa mga colleagues.

Ok ra man og mo go ka ana nga offer. Pero as I've said, andam2x lng and consider the worst condition nga e layoff ka or Endo. Note nga dili pa ka ma covered sa support sa layoff gikan sa gobyerno kung wala pa kay 1yr.

Kung ma layoff ka, unya plano nimo mangapply ug laing trabaho, the hard fact here is most of the jobs are thru referrals or networks. And the current situation karon, mag lisod ug sulod ang foreigner kung dili maka norsk. "Some" employers kay mo ignore sa imong CV basta dili norwegian ang pangan.

Mo site ko ug example sa akong mga kaila sa Stavanger pod. O&G pod...ang isa ka kaila nko agency pod, after a year gikuha nya iyang family. Samtang nag work pa cya sa agency, among gibtambagan nga mangita ug permanent nga employment pero he ignored. Sadly, ni abot jud ang point nga ga lisod jud cya. Pero maau kay karon naka survive.

Another kaila nako agency gikan, unya g absorbed sa iyang g trabahuan. Unya usa pa nya nakuha iya pamilya. Pero after 6yrs na layoff cya. Fortunately, naka work ra pod cya thru networks of ex-colleagues....pero kini cya wala ra nag lisod unlike sa usa.

In other words, mas maau gyud ug naa kay firm offer as permanent position. But, you could also have project or contractual offers para maka suway pod ka diri...it's all up to you.

Kmsta Bai? Mao ni akng gnhan kau nmo.. Matinabangon ug idea + maau mo advice w/ regard to Norge..

[pepponeskie]

Kmsta Bai? Mao ni akng gnhan kau nmo.. Matinabangon ug idea + maau mo advice w/ regard to Norge..

ok ra bai. surviving gihapon maski aning pandemya.

ikaw musta dinha? nag outbreak baya to inyoha dapit.

[Vegard]

Let me guess...Aibel?

Mao sad na style sa mga dagku nga company, like NOV, Subsea 7, etc...ky e thru agency nila ang employee. Ang rason ana kay sayun ra e terminate sa tawo. Kay dri kung permanent employee ka, kuti kaau mag terminate nimo. Naa pay uban nga ma kaso gyud sa korte. Og dri, seniority really matters.

Downside if your working on those agency, is dili sila pa alkansi sa pay cut. Medyo lubagon nila aron makakwarta sila. Pero that's business lang jud.

I was supposed to be hired by NOV on 2014. But thru agency pod. Same sa gi describe nimo. Pero wa ko ni dayun kay I received an offer as permanent sa isa ka drilling company. And for 7 yrs I survived the waves of layoffs, until it caught me. I was the youngest kay ang g sundan nko nga na layoff pod is 17yrs. After that, I received several offers ra pod gikan sa mga referrals og networks nga ex-colleagues. Pero ang ako g accept nga offer from a start up company...it is important not to burn the bridges and build good relationship sa mga colleagues.

Ok ra man og mo go ka ana nga offer. Pero as I've said, andam2x lng and consider the worst condition nga e layoff ka or Endo. Note nga dili pa ka ma covered sa support sa layoff gikan sa gobyerno kung wala pa kay 1yr.

Kung ma layoff ka, unya plano nimo mangapply ug laing trabaho, the hard fact here is most of the jobs are thru referrals or networks. And the current situation karon, mag lisod ug sulod ang foreigner kung dili maka norsk. "Some" employers kay mo ignore sa imong CV basta dili norwegian ang pangan.

Mo site ko ug example sa akong mga kaila sa Stavanger pod. O&G pod...ang isa ka kaila nko agency pod, after a year gikuha nya iyang family. Samtang nag work pa cya sa agency, among gibtambagan nga mangita ug permanent nga employment pero he ignored. Sadly, ni abot jud ang point nga ga lisod jud cya. Pero maau kay karon naka survive.

Another kaila nako agency gikan, unya g absorbed sa iyang g trabahuan. Unya usa pa nya nakuha iya pamilya. Pero after 6yrs na layoff cya. Fortunately, naka work ra pod cya thru networks of ex-colleagues....pero kini cya wala ra nag lisod unlike sa usa.

In other words, mas maau gyud ug naa kay firm offer as permanent position. But, you could also have project or contractual offers para maka suway pod ka diri...it's all up to you.

No, not Aibel. Sorry but I prefer not to say it, pacensya na. Kahibaw ko sa situation sa O&G karon and I've been to similar consultant contracts in the past which I am very familiar.

As for the pay, the employer is providing a salary which is above the national average in Norway. How did I know? I did my research and I have contacts/friends who are working currently in Norway. I will be working as a Senior Professional once I get there.

I appreciate your advice pero I've done my research well before I posted in this forum and your observation is correct. I firmly believe na kinahanglan ka mo take og risk aron ma-successful. So far sa 14 years nako na career sa Oil & Gas (more than 6 companies from 5 different countries under my experience) wla pa ko kasulay na lay-off or na endo and I'm confident in my abilities. Anyway, if magkadi-unsa, I can always come back from one of my past companies as I've built good relationship with the leads and managers. All I need is a chance to set foot in this country and prove my worth.

By the way, the company that I'll be working with has services in renewable/green energy (not only O&G).

Anyway, I appreciate your advice, hopefully we can meet-up once I get there soon. Salamat! =)

[pepponeskie]

No, not Aibel. Sorry but I prefer not to say it, pacensya na. Kahibaw ko sa situation sa O&G karon and I've been to similar consultant contracts in the past which I am very familiar.

As for the pay, the employer is providing a salary which is above the national average in Norway. How did I know? I did my research and I have contacts/friends who are working currently in Norway. I will be working as a Senior Professional once I get there.

I appreciate your advice pero I've done my research well before I posted in this forum and your observation is correct. I firmly believe na kinahanglan ka mo take og risk aron ma-successful. So far sa 14 years nako na career sa Oil & Gas (more than 6 companies from 5 different countries under my experience) wla pa ko kasulay na lay-off or na endo and I'm confident in my abilities. Anyway, if magkadi-unsa, I can always come back from one of my past companies as I've built good relationship with the leads and managers. All I need is a chance to set foot in this country and prove my worth.

By the way, the company that I'll be working with has services in renewable/green energy (not only O&G).

Anyway, I appreciate your advice, hopefully we can meet-up once I get there soon. Salamat! =)

Its Aker then. Hehehehe.

Good luck. All the best.

Good ky labaw ka sa national average. But, as for engineers, NITO salary ang basehan. As for now its 720ish ang average.

[Vegard]

Its Aker then. Hehehehe.

Good luck. All the best.

Good ky labaw ka sa national average. But, as for engineers, NITO salary ang basehan. As for now its 720ish ang average.

Good morning bai! Hehehe, hapit najud nmo masakpan, akoa gi-check ang NITO and indeed accurate cya na assessment, naay diperensya pero gamay ra, hehehe.

[pepponeskie]

Good morning bai! Hehehe, hapit najud nmo masakpan, akoa gi-check ang NITO and indeed accurate cya na assessment, naay diperensya pero gamay ra, hehehe.

if Aker, daghang pinoy dinha. kasagaran akong mga ka batch mate nga Civil Eng. naa dinha sa Aker.



Just to add on the layoff info. naay mga criteria sila nga gina sunod jud based sa balaod sa pagpanarbaho:

1st - seniority
2nd - competence
- skills/experience
- education
3rd - social standing
4th - age

Seniority always labaw jud na sa competence. Nya sa competence, naay sub-category ana nga skills og education. Kasagaran sad sa Norwegian nga engineer naay masteral degree. samtang kasagaran pod nato nga pinoy, Bachelor degree...nya social standing kana if naa kay mga dagku nga loan, ikaw ra ang naay income, pila imong anak, etc..nya last ang age.

So when I was laid off, the CEO personally talked to me nga tungod sa seniority ang ground. Mao nga ako ang pinaka less seniority sa mga 23 nga na layoff. And the CEO even promised nga pabalikon ko nya when everything will recover. And that's why I got several job offers thru referrals/network ky I didn't know nga gi refer ko sa CEO og sa ubang colleagues. My job was not that easy, I was one of the two persons who "ran the show" on every drilling projects we had and worked both on and offshore. But still, naa pa man mas senior nako nga maka take over sa akong place.

Sa mga companies, ang una jud nga ma layoff kana mga hired as consultants or not permanent employees.

Diri Norway, ang isa ka employee daku kaau ug right or naay tingog. Unlike in other countries like Saudi, US, Singapore, Pinas, etc. nga sayun ra kaau e terminate. Even ang mga union naay power nga maka stop work para mag negotiate nga mag increase ug sweldo. And have the right not to work hantod dili ma settle ang negotiations. And when you are not at work tungod ana, pwede ka maka claim sa gobyerno ug suporta.

Mas nindot jud ug naa ka sa new department or start up companies kay ikaw ang maka una og naa kay hold sa seniority.

Anyway, go for it. matod pa ni Manny Villar sa dihang gipangutana cya ngano na successful cya..."Kung nasa dulo ka na, e todo mo na."

[pierced]

ok ra bai. surviving gihapon maski aning pandemya.

ikaw musta dinha? nag outbreak baya to inyoha dapit.

Oks dri dpta bai.. Hehehe pwera buyag doing our best to climb the ladder. Saka nah gmy hehehe from TL to Production Planner nah hehehehe nndt pd ang logistics krn ky essential kaau dri sa Norge.. Heheheh

Yep, cge mn close open dri Oslo/Viken area heehhee

Gnha lng nka vaccine ko 1st shot hehehe prho nmi rmats hehehe akng wife ug sister complete shots nah cla.. Kmo dha? Sugod namo?

[pepponeskie]

Oks dri dpta bai.. Hehehe pwera buyag doing our best to climb the ladder. Saka nah gmy hehehe from TL to Production Planner nah hehehehe nndt pd ang logistics krn ky essential kaau dri sa Norge.. Heheheh

Yep, cge mn close open dri Oslo/Viken area heehhee

Gnha lng nka vaccine ko 1st shot hehehe prho nmi rmats hehehe akng wife ug sister complete shots nah cla.. Kmo dha? Sugod namo?

Congrats bai! Mao ni akong ganahan sa ubang kompanya kay tao jud tanaw sa imoha ba, dili numero.

Essential jud kaau, labe na karon nga puros online na. Maski gani pagkaon, online na. Ganahan gani ko mo suway anang delivery sa city area kana mag bike ba, mga summer ky init...dala exercise pod.

Cge btaw lockdown. Didto ko Tønsberg pag march kay naa ko gi testing, mga semana ko didto. Tyming kaau pag uli nako, mao pod pag lockdown nila.

Wala pa mi na bakunahan bai, ilang ingun kay after easter man daw....pero wala pa man mi skedule. Ilaha man hinoon unahon ang mga nag Russ...g ahak.hahahhaha.

[pierced]

Congrats bai! Mao ni akong ganahan sa ubang kompanya kay tao jud tanaw sa imoha ba, dili numero.

Essential jud kaau, labe na karon nga puros online na. Maski gani pagkaon, online na. Ganahan gani ko mo suway anang delivery sa city area kana mag bike ba, mga summer ky init...dala exercise pod.

Cge btaw lockdown. Didto ko Tønsberg pag march kay naa ko gi testing, mga semana ko didto. Tyming kaau pag uli nako, mao pod pag lockdown nila.

Wala pa mi na bakunahan bai, ilang ingun kay after easter man daw....pero wala pa man mi skedule. Ilaha man hinoon unahon ang mga nag Russ...g ahak.hahahhaha.

Hehehe hnuon pd, mismo jd amng company pwrti ka essential hehe dku nga player sa LOB..

mostly or tnan hospital/healthy equipments sa country amng company ang ng supply, add dha ang coffee ug harina naa sd sa amng company.. Nya kna nga mga departments, 2 ana akng ang ga plano sa in ug out sa daily production ana hehehe mka lipay pd huna2on bai nga kta mga pinoy naa pd lain nga ika pa kta sa foreign country.. 2 mi kbuok krn nga ni saka ntwn hehehe k2ng ng tbang nko pa sulod sauna saka sd cya.. OM nah krn hehehehe mka lipay huna2on oi ehehhee

Dd2 mi Tønsberg last month pd bai.. Ni try ani ai.. heheeehe