Mao lage akong gi ingon nga paabot lang gud nga ang inyoha na pud Presidente ang makalingkod diha kay ang inyoha na pud pama-agi ang gamiton..Originally Posted by Panasonic
Napul.an namo ug paminaw gud kay wala mo'y logical argument na matubag.
Palaban ta sa US - naa tay MDT. Not one word from the US side ang ni indicate na dili ni nila i.respetar. Ngano di man pwede magpalaban nila? Longest ally na nato.
Magrally against china - ambot asa ka gikan ani
Mag file ug case against China - of course, dili ka gusto ani? Naay mo trespass sa imo property, di ka mopasaka ug kaso? Patay jud imo gusto direcho?
Vietnam, Indonesia walay gubat - Naa diay? Link please, if any.
Ang problema anang mag sige mo'g basa anang mga propaganda gud kay mahimo ug black or white inyo thinking. It's either war, or no war ra kutob inyo thinking. Do you have any proof that China is willing to go to war for this? Or kato ra gi-ingon na Duterte na gihunghung daw sa iyang bestfriend na si Xi? Just asking para makakita sad ko how your brain works
Gi-tuyok na gani ato nasod sa ila survey ship https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...lippine-waters pero inyo tan-aw gihapon nila is friendly? 80NM ra iya distance from our coast, ug bisag ang DFA wala'y data ani. Grabeha gud ninyo ka naive.
Just wait lang gud.. Dili na gyud diay mo kahuwat?
Palaban ta sa US - Naa lage tay MDT ... Unya unsaon mana nato nga wala pamay gubat? Magpaabot sa tag atakon nata usa ang US mo come to our defense. Ok ra?
Magrally against China - Dili ba mao mana permi ang inyong buhaton? Aw dili ba diay?
Magfile ug case against China - Unsa paman imong i file nga naa naman ang Arbitral ruling .... Ug naay mo tresspass sa imong property mo kiha diay dayon ka? Dili diay pwede istoryahan lang usa?
Patay jud diretso? -- Asa man padung ang conflict brad? You would rather risk war than talk it over?
Which would you rather do...
Talk about it like any civilize person or palaban dayon kas imong big brother kay naa kay kaaway? and risk escalation to greater conflict?
If you would know daghan na baya kaayo nagkagubot tungod sa pagsulod/pag apil2x sa US into internal conflict. Ganahan ka i list down ang countries where there were armed conflicts because nag apil2x ang US? If you would know and heard from digong all over again, makabungol na gud, nga magbalik2x na siyag istorya.
Nga ang uban tawo sama nimo dili gyud makagets. Nga DILI siya ganahan ug gubat. There is the greater risk of armed conflict kung imong i aggravate ang situation, kahuman mag palaban pa gyud kas imong big brother. Dili gyud ka kasabot ana? ... I open kuno nang imong mind without considering your bias against the person of Duterte.
I open lang ba, nga basin kanang iyang mga gipang sulti nga magkagubat gyud ta basta ato nang i aggravate ang situation sa WPS.
Aw tuod no technical person man ka, lahi man ang imong definition sa war, sa battle ug sa armed conflict.
I search daw ang Sino-Vietnamese war.
So ang imong gusto sundon nato ang Indonesia nga ilang gipabuto ang mga fishing vessels nga mga chinese? Parehas ani:
So ganahan ka mo take ug Armed action against the Chinese fishing vessels? Gusto ka tigas2x ta?
Ayaw kalimot bradier nga if and when that happens, you will never know ug unsa ang action buhaton sa China.
China could even say, nga kadtong usa ka ship nga gipabuto sa Philippines is a military vessel, and an act of aggression against the state of China.
Gamita palihug ang utok.
I think the OLD man in Malacanang is doing his best to not resort to ANY armed conflict, bisan pistola o bisan libentador pana.
While kamong mga sueto gusto gyud nga i aggravate everytime ang situation.
Kusog kaayo mo mosulti nga black and white, when all the while kamoy nadala sa istorya ug unsa lay isulti sa media.
Gamita pud panagsa ang utok brad.
Dili lage mag gubat, kinsa may nag ingon nimo ana nga dili mag gubat? Tungod kay ingon si Carpio?
Carpio doesn't have all the information to make a sound decision, while Duterte is at the forefront of all that is happening in our country.
Sige brad, kay gusto man gyud ka i aggravate ang situation, like pabuto2x ug mga chinese vessels... Pwede ra kaayo ka mo apply sa army labon kusog ilang recruitment karon.
Or even file a case kung gusto ka kay ikaw may na sueto sa tanan.
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08-09-2019, 12:53 PM #18002
Makatawa ko anang imong gi sulti nga gi tuyok na ang atong nasud sa ilang survey ship.
Wala gani ka mag huna2x nga ang Pilipinas, naa nay US Air Bases.
Ang usa ka world power gi survey ang atong country, while the other world power dugay rang nagbutang ug Air Bases sa atong mismong country.
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Wala ba diay ka kabalo nga naay gitawag ug freedom of navigation? Hayyysss... ayaw lage sigeg padala anang mga propaganda kay ma black and white ang imong paminsar.
Dia ra o..
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/08/w...er-manila.html
As Duterte Drifts Toward China, a U.S. Carrier Makes a Point in Manila
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08-11-2019, 03:50 PM #18003C.I.A.
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ok ra tagaan regalo mga pulis para di na sila mangidnap ug mamaligyag drags...
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08-14-2019, 10:50 AM #18004Junior Member
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Just my opinion. Originally Posted by marius
duterte is the most STRAIGHT president - the BEST president our country has ever had ............
a lawyer for how many years - but he doesn't know the law
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"If you are able to solve a crime and the family would like to be generous to you or would nurture a feeling of gratitude for what you accomplish, then by all means, accept it. Wala akong ano," he added.
but then here's the law that is against that ---
Republic Act 6713 or the Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards for Public Officials and Employees states that "public officials and employees shall not solicit or accept, directly or indirectly, any gift, gratuity, favor, entertainment, loan or anything of monetary value from any person in the course of their official duties or in connection with any operation being regulated by, or any transaction which may be affected by the functions of their office."
the BEST of all the BEST -- in terms of stupidity
a person with no integrity ......
Since na solve naman ang crime so that is outside the "in the course of their official duties."
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08-14-2019, 02:50 PM #18005Boss, medyo sa pagbasa palang nako daan ani, lahi ra ang imong pagsabot sa atong balaud. Originally Posted by marius
duterte is the most STRAIGHT president - the BEST president our country has ever had ............
a lawyer for how many years - but he doesn't know the law
excerpt --
"If you are able to solve a crime and the family would like to be generous to you or would nurture a feeling of gratitude for what you accomplish, then by all means, accept it. Wala akong ano," he added.
but then here's the law that is against that ---
Republic Act 6713 or the Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards for Public Officials and Employees states that "public officials and employees shall not solicit or accept, directly or indirectly, any gift, gratuity, favor, entertainment, loan or anything of monetary value from any person in the course of their official duties or in connection with any operation being regulated by, or any transaction which may be affected by the functions of their office."
the BEST of all the BEST -- in terms of stupidity
a person with no integrity ......
Lahi ang Criminal Law, Lahi pud ang Law on ethics, there is a reason nganong gi separate ang duha.
A police could solve a crime, and the family could be thankful sa police or sa detective for solving the crime, to show gratitude the family may give the police or detective gifts or a gift. Daghan nagabuhat ana, and it doesn't mean it is criminal. Probably unethical, but we don't know.
Did you happen to know of a police or detective nga na filan ug kaso because he accepted some sort of a "pasalamat" from the family for solving a crime?
The police could say nga dili siya mo dawat kay part of the job niya, but then again, the family could opt to give him some food to eat or something para pahalipay.
Pero i qualify pud nato kay basin excessive na pud ang gihatag sa family nga maka affect na sa functions sa ilang office.
To qualify more 100,000 pesos could be excessive, but to others basin chicken feed ra sa ilaha.
But then again, these are matters of the law, that we may leave the courts to settle. Maong naay lawyers to talk about it.
The laws you have quoted are not apples to apples, they are different divisions sa balaud. Maong careful lang ta mag diametrically oppose sa duha.
Then again, mas maayo let's leave it to the lawyers.
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08-14-2019, 03:14 PM #18006 Originally Posted by Panasonic
Just wait lang gud.. Dili na gyud diay mo kahuwat? Dili, kay the longer we wait, the more territory is taken from us.
-------- Ahhh so bali ganahan na gyud diay mo mo take over the Presidency? Kinsa man si Binay imong ibutang diha? OMG
Palaban ta sa US - Naa lage tay MDT ... Unya unsaon mana nato nga wala pamay gubat? Magpaabot sa tag atakon nata usa ang US mo come to our defense. Ok ra? Exactly! Maghuwat ta ug atake, if any. As long as wala, we defend what is ours.
When you say "We defend what is ours"
------- Unsa may specific actions imong gusto i take sa government karon nga wala pa nilang buhata??
Magrally against China - Dili ba mao mana permi ang inyong buhaton? Aw dili ba diay? Hmmm dili. Mao ni imo pirmi gibuhat kato time ni Abnoy? I see.
-------- Inyoha manang action diba?
Magfile ug case against China - Unsa paman imong i file nga naa naman ang Arbitral ruling .... Ug naay mo tresspass sa imong property mo kiha diay dayon ka? Dili diay pwede istoryahan lang usa? 3 years nata nagsturya. Bag-o lanng gi0news nga 80NMs away from us naay military ug survey ships. Sturya rata kutob? Basa kuno ug news, kung unsa to ang gi-file sa DFA bag-o lang. And then answer me kung unsa pa ang pwede i-file.
-------- Unsa man imong gusto buhaton anang nagtrespass
--------- Unsay specific action imong gusto i take sa government karon nga wala pa nilang buhata ??
Patay jud diretso? -- Asa man padung ang conflict brad? You would rather risk war than talk it over? Sa conflict kay dili necessary patay diretso. Daghan stages of conflict. Daghan na'g conflicts sa kalibutan in which minimal ang deaths, if any.
Which would you rather do...
SOOOO... You still want blood gyud diay?? Minimal deaths lang --- You don't want to talk it over you want gyud diay deaths as long as it is minimal? -- medyo obvious na gamay imong padungan.
Talk about it like any civilize person or palaban dayon kas imong big brother kay naa kay kaaway? and risk escalation to greater conflict? Kinsa man ni-ingon palaban ta IMMEDIATELY? We act for ourselves first. When push comes to shove, invoke ta sa kung unsa man pwede ma-invoke. Dili ta pwede passive.
------- So again the basic question ... What specific action imong gusto buhaton sa government karon nga wala pa nilang buhata??
If you would know daghan na baya kaayo nagkagubot tungod sa pagsulod/pag apil2x sa US into internal conflict. Ganahan ka i list down ang countries where there were armed conflicts because nag apil2x ang US? If you would know and heard from digong all over again, makabungol na gud, nga magbalik2x na siyag istorya. And which of those involve the same subject matter? Case-in-point, US provides arms to Vietnam for defense purposes. Naa ba'y Vietnam-China war karon? Padulong na ba sila'g war?
Only Vietnam ra?? How about the Oil Rich countries sa middle east?
All the while pila kabuok ang nagkapinusilay
------ Next question, what specific Action gusto nimo buhaton sa government nga wala pa nila buhata?
Ako gi-individually tackle imo points. Even if you ignore most of them, I just want your answer regarding this: Where is your proof that China will declare war against us if we fight back? By proof, I mean other than the war-mongering statements of our President.
------- You have answered your own question. And as what Panelo would say Mr. Theko, The President has information that he alone has access to. Mao bitaw ingon ko nga hulat lang ta nga ang inyong Presidente na pud ang makalingkod para ug unsay ilang action mao na pud ang amo i batikos.
------- Fact is, I myself would think China will not declare war, it is not in their best interest to declare such. But then again there is still that possibility of an armed conflict between countries, labi na tingale kung ang inyong Presidente pa ang nakalingkod.
------- Are you saying the President is War-Mongering? Do you have ANY evidence to refute such?
Or, you can say na you blindly follow Duterte and faithfully believe his remarks. Kana, mas mo-make sense na for me ngano ing-ani imo stand.
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08-14-2019, 03:34 PM #18007Nindot tong mga video sa una ni Mocha Uson kay sexy kaayo. Originally Posted by Panasonic
Bali your method here is i down ang akong credibility by associating me with Mocha Uson? Ingon ana na gyud diay ka bogo si Mocha Uson sa? lol Poison Poison..
Kinsa pud imoha kang Jover Laurio? hahahaha...
Brad sultihan nalang taka daan ha, murag gibalik2x naman ni nako pero murag dili man ka makasabot kay abogado lagi ka (tingale) ...
The only time I watch Mocha Uson other than kadtong iyang mga sayaw2x sa una (ahem), was when mag interview siya sa "Hintungdan" which means sa first-hand information.
Like iyang gi interview si Tugade regarding kalamboan sa Transportation department, gi interview si Bong Go, regarding atong inyong issue2x adtong barko..
Tell me dili bana sensible information makuha nimo diha?
It is as if you are judging people by their choices from which they get their information lage, typical feeling elite?
Ayaw kalain brad ha, dili tanan elite bright, daghan ko kaila ana.
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It is not who he is that defines him as the good leader, but it is what he does.
The real sensible question now is .... What will he do in this situation.
Oopps wait, naa naman diay siyang planong buhatonPresident Rodrigo Duterte on Thursday said he will finally raise Manila’s 2016 arbitral victory, which invalidated Beijing’s sweeping maritime claims, when he visits China later this month.
With a report from Reuters
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08-14-2019, 03:40 PM #18008Nakabantay lang ko nimo kalit brod ba, ni 360 lage ka. Originally Posted by marius
sadly this is what's happening in our country right now. it has become a fanaticism towards duterte. that no matter what he says, even though it's blatantly or lawfully wrong his fans will always believe him and make whatever excuses to make those statements of duterte correct. Originally Posted by slakker
Bandwagon ra diay tong imo sa una.
So una maka gets paka ug unsa ang "pun" karon kay serious na kay ka.
Bali tanan moves sa tiguwang karon sayop na?
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Anyway... hopefully magets nimo ug kanus-a nag binuangan sa uban diri, ug when pud gi serious.
Because I seriously think ang kanang imong gi quote before is binuang, or basin ako ray naghuna2x diri.
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08-14-2019, 03:43 PM #18009Define daw elements sa Bribery brad. Originally Posted by Panasonic
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08-14-2019, 04:03 PM #18010With regards to "Do you have ANY evidence to refute such?" Originally Posted by Panasonic
-------- Ahhh so bali ganahan na gyud diay mo mo take over the Presidency? Kinsa man si Binay imong ibutang diha? OMG
Have you heard of the fallacy called a slippery slope? This is what it is. No one ever mentioned of a change in Presidency. What is being call for is a change in strategy. OMG wa ka kibaw sa difference sa duha?
When you say "We defend what is ours"
------- Unsa may specific actions imong gusto i take sa government karon nga wala pa nilang buhata??
Consistent filing of protests. Raising up the point sa UN consistently as well as in ASEAN conferences. China hates bad reputation. Sending out ramming boats to help our fishermen. Kaya na nato tanan kung dili lang defeatist ato attitude.
Magrally against China
-------- Inyoha manang action diba?
Uhm dili. Pero ikaw man ang swito ani, so maybe mao ni imo binuhatan saona?
-------- Unsa man imong gusto buhaton anang nagtrespass
Ask the person to leave. If not, file a case in court. Push for implementation of the court order. If he doesnt follow, make the stay as uncomfortable for the trespasser as possible. See my suggestions sa above. Ikaw, dili ni mao imo buhaton? Gusto ka hatagan lang ug kape and cookies imo "bisita?"
SOOOO... You still want blood gyud diay?? Minimal deaths lang --- You don't want to talk it over you want gyud diay deaths as long as it is minimal? -- medyo obvious na gamay imong padungan.
As much as possible, no bloodshed. But if we have to defend our territory, we will do all we can. Function na sa ato AFP. Defend our country to the death. Don't you agree?
------- So again the basic question ... What specific action imong gusto buhaton sa government karon nga wala pa nilang buhata??
Already answered.
Only Vietnam ra?? How about the Oil Rich countries sa middle east?
All the while pila kabuok ang nagkapinusilay
Uhmm.. Similarly situated ta sa middle east? Similar ang issues? Naa to silay defense treaties? Unhan nalang tika sa answer. Compared to Vietnam, NO.
------ Next question, what specific Action gusto nimo buhaton sa government nga wala pa nila buhata?
You've asked this three times. Nahutdan naka'g questions?
------- You have answered your own question. And as what Panelo would say Mr. Theko, The President has information that he alone has access to. Mao bitaw ingon ko nga hulat lang ta nga ang inyong Presidente na pud ang makalingkod para ug unsay ilang action mao na pud ang amo i batikos.
What was the answer again? He is MY president as well. Wala paka ka-get over sa election and it clearly shows. Everything Duterte decides on affects me in some way or another. Fanatic jud ka sir..
------- Fact is, I myself would think China will not declare war, it is not in their best interest to declare such. But then again there is still that possibility of an armed conflict between countries, labi na tingale kung ang inyong Presidente pa ang nakalingkod.
You dont think China will declare war. Enough said
------- Are you saying the President is War-Mongering? Do you have ANY evidence to refute such?
Yes! I am saying that. Why would I refute what I just said. The President is war-mongering.
Since dili man ka motanaw ug mga speeches sa Presidente, there was one instance that he said, while talking to President Xi, he brought out the idea of the Philippines extracting Oil and Gas in the WPS (or something along those lines), and Xi mentioned not to do it, because something will happen. Xi is only President and he cannot control China.
These are statements that you can only hear from speeches and not readily and carefully examined by media.
The fact that these are simple questions to ask during speeches, the media just doesn't seem to question them, makes me wonder.
Maong I asked you, Do you have any Evidence to refute such statements that War or armed conflict may NOT ensue once we force China away from WPS?
Obviously your methods are a fallacy in themselves.
You are against the government and with the government. Which makes you more of a critic than an Opposition.
Unfortunately, daghan nag naka fill-in ana nga position. So, you can always wait for your turn.
The president's methods are his own, his independent foreign policies are his own.
Pag Presidente usa before tumanon ang imong gusto.
Until then... If what you mean nga ang iyang strategy is a defeatist strategy, so be it.
By the way, kinsay na coin anang word nga "defeatist" .... Hmmmmm.. I'm sensing yellowwwwwww...
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Bradier, I was only talking about Survey ships, as what was indicated on the news as it initial reported. There was no mention of warships yet at that time. Originally Posted by Panasonic
@firestarter
Focused kaayo ka ni Mocha that your brain stopped working
My question was: Do military ships have freedom of navigation within another country's territory?
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I'm not sure, Mocha. Can't be bother to search Try 3019, 6713, or the RPC.
But then again, kuwang ra guro kag tanaw ug sexy nga babayi maong dili na mo work imong logic.
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With the foregoing statement sa President do you think the elements of bribery were fulfilled? Originally Posted by Panasonic
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