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Is the narco list also black propaganda? There is no objective set of guidelines when placing someone in that list. Most of it is hearsay. Anonymous kadaghanan sources sa narco list by the way.

I will cite the Narco List provided by the president last May which was provided by PDEA and other government authorities involved. If majority of the Narco list the president provided is false then he and the govt authorities are held liable.

The Narco List on the video was published using an anonymous account and from an anonymous source. Published a few months before election aimed at the president and his family (including a 14 year old). Dili gihapon na ma consider Black Propaganda?

[boss_digong]

I still don't see unsay relation sa duha.

Abi nako ako ang hipokrito. "Justified man gani ninyo nga mapatay tong dili mo-menos sa 54 ka menor de edad". Kanus.a ko nag ingon na justified to? Dba "sham" to tawag nimo nako?

Back-read na lang para ma-refresh sa imong memory kun kapila ninyo gi-emphasize nga mga collateral damage ra ning napatay sa tokhang, ang importante, matud pa ninyo, ang over-all effect sa war-on-drugs.

Unya karong si Kitty na ang na-link sa drug syndicate, kalimot namo sa inyong pirming gibungat nga 'collateral damage' ug tiyabaw na dayon mo nga dili apilon ang mga menor de edad?

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So, this video coming out right before the elections

Weee!

Unya kanang narco list ni Digong nus-a man na gi-release?

Duterte releases drug list ahead of 2019 elections
https://www.rappler.com/nation/polit...2019-elections

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Do you even know who exactly were the sources of the list? So easy to say PDEA. But who exactly is the source? So near the elections at that.

Based sa article released, it was provided by PDEA and confirmed by other gov't agencies. So, saying na "no set guidelines when placing someone on the list" and "hearsay" is not entirely true. However, these agencies are held liable if false ang claims. Black Propaganda only identifies a source. It does not need to be true. And this "totoong narco list" was created to discredit the president and his children. Same sa katong Leni Leaks sauna. Both are black propaganda.
@boss_digong

Wala gihapon ko ka kita sa relation sa relation ana sa pag include sa usa ka 14 year old for a black propaganda.

Please ko ug quote na ning ingon ko na justified ang pagkamatay sa tanan 54 na menor de edad. Unless maka provide ka ana, then basin naa nay gamayng value imung argument.

[boss_digong]

The Narco List on the video was published using an anonymous account and from an anonymous source.

Unya nakabalo ka kinsa'y source anang narco list ni Digong?

Nganong kinahanglan pa man nilang magtago sa PDEA?

Kundili na sila anonymous, ilista daw diri ang ilang mga pangalan.

[boss_digong]

Abi nako ako ang hipokrito. "Justified man gani ninyo nga mapatay tong dili mo-menos sa 54 ka menor de edad". Kanus.a ko nag ingon na justified to?

Please ko ug quote na ning ingon ko na justified ang pagkamatay sa tanan 54 na menor de edad. Unless maka provide ka ana, then basin naa nay gamayng value imung argument.

Kapoy na utingkay sa thread nga dunay liboan ka posts, bradier. Ani na lang, straight from the horse's mouth:

Duterte says children killed in Philippines drug war are 'collateral damage'

Rodrigo Duterte, the president of the Philippines, has referred to innocent people and children as “collateral damage” in his war on drugs because police use automatic weapons when confronting criminals.

Asked in an interview with al-Jazeera about minors caught up in the violence, Duterte said that police can kill hundreds of civilians without criminal liability.

He gave a hypothetical example of an officer using an M16 rifle when dealing with a “gangster” who wields a pistol. “When they meet, they exchange fire. With the policeman and the M16, it’s one burst, brrr, and [he] hits 1,000 people there and they die.

“When you bomb a village you intend to kill the militants but you kill the children there ... Why do you say it is collateral damage to the west and to us it is murder?”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lateral-damage

Unsa na, bradier?

Willing imong idol mopatay og mga bata ug innocent people para lang mapu-o ang droga sa Pilipinas, unya kun iyang anak na ang ma-link sa drug syndicate, KUSOG mong motiyabaw nga dili ANGAY apilon ang mga menor de edad samang Kitty?

Bwahahahahahaha!

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@Panasonic

By your explanation, doctors who prescribe medicine with no prior experience on using them are using "hearsay". Because, they do not have personal knowledge/experience using the medicine. What's the point of having doctors or PDEA then? If they need to have personal experience to be able to trust their list? With that said, if ning tuo mo sa Totoong narco List, then you should trust Duterte's list since he would have personal knowledge.

For both you and @boss_digong, you can always go to the gov't agencies for the objective guidelines and their source of the list. If the Narco List is considered black propaganda because it simply cannot provide you the guidelines and source of the list for legitimate reasons, then the Totoong Narco List is worse than a black propaganda because its published anonymously.
@boss_digong you cited his statement. Still does not prove that I considered it justified. Thus, your statement has no value yet again.

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@boss_digong you cited his statement. Still does not prove that I considered it justified.

Supporter man kaha kang DUTERTE pero kun maglisud na ka'g depensa sa iyang aksyon o gisulti, manghunaw dayon ka?

Abi nako'g si Pilato sa bible lang mi-exist, naa pud diay siya in real life.

Usa ra gyud atong ma-conclude anang imong post: BALIMBING.

Ug kanang imong pagpanghunaw sa statement ni Duterte DOES NOT change the fact nga ang mismong presidenti ang miangkon nga pwede ra makapatay ug mga bata ug menor de edad ang mga pulis sa iyang war-on-drugs without any criminal liability.

Yet, dihang ang iyang anak na'y nalink sa dakong drug syndicate, suko kaayo siya ug kamong mga DDS nganong naapil si Kitty nga usa ka under-aged.

WHAT A BUNCH OF HIPOKRITOS!

Bwahahahahaha!

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Layo naa kaayo kag naabtan boss. With doctors, no accusations are being thrown. Who cares if hearsay sila? They might not have personal knowledge about it but what they study is science, and science adheres to hard truths, following established guidelines in determining the effectiveness of a treatment. There is very little room for subjectivity.

With the narco-list, for the most part, if not all, kay subjective. Chismis. A very faulty comparison jud.

There is no point in going to the government agencies because they cannot provide the information, for there is none. There were no published IRRs, no law, nothing to support their claims. You cant even name one source! Since black propaganda ang narco list, ngano masuko man si Duterte if black propaganda is used against him and his family? Double standards.

Dili na layo. Your statement kay hearsay kay wala silay personal knowledge. Similar to doctors, government agencies are trained to gather information. How can you say na chismis lng if you, yourself, do not know how they gather intel?

Again, you believe na people who have personal knowledge can be determined as valid. And, the "Totoong Narco List" states that Duterte is included. Then, you would believe that the Narco list that Duterte provided should be valid as well. Since it would show that he has personal knowledge.
@boss_digong

Again, please state me saying na justified? If not, then argument closed and goes to show na ikaw ang hipokrito.

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To sum it up

Doctors: Follow a set of established objective guidelines. Using established science. Using a source that is not anonymous.
PDEA and Duterte regarding the Narcolist: No objective guidelines. Anonymous source.

How are they similar again? True, both don't have personal knowledge. But the first has established guidelines while the other doesn't. When you break down the testimony of the doctor, you can easily trace back the source. You can't do that with the Narco-list. You cant even show me the guidelines, you cant show me the source. You tell me to go to PDEA, but you and I don't even know who to approach.

I never said I believed "Totoong Narco List." I never said that they had personal knowledge. Can you point out when I said that? My point here is this, to make it simple for you: When Duterte uses black propaganda against his enemies, he should not be upset when his enemies use it against him. By being upset, Duterte is showing that he is a hypocrite.

Where is your basis na walay objective guidelines? Do you have factual proof na wala? How do you know na wala silay objective guidelines to verify if that person should be added to the list? And, why do you think they keep their sources anonymous? What do you think will happen if they announce who their sources are? Why do you think PDEA exists? PDEA has similar tasks to CIA albeit PDEA focuses on drugs. So, CIA is hearsay sad gihapon? If you say dili sila hearsay, what is your basis na dili sila hearsay? Who is CIA's sources?

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@boss_digong

Again, please state me saying na justified? If not, then argument closed and goes to show na ikaw ang hipokrito.

Bwahahahaha!

Ako na nuon nahimong hipokrito?

Di ba die-hard Duterte supporter man ka?

Di ba si Duterte man ang miingon nga WALAY criminal liability (in other words, justified) ang mga pulis kun makapatay og mga bata sa war-on-drugs?

Unya, kay nag-tuo man diay ka nga DILI JUSTIFIED nga apilon ang mga 'under-aged' sa gyera kontra droga.

SO HIPOKRITO GYUD KA. Maski unsaon pa nimo'g ligwat2x.

KAY LAHI ANG IMONG GITUOHAN SA IMONG GI-SUPORTAHAN.