All About Current Admin of Duterte

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I would actually think na if makit.an ang tattoo ni Paolo, i-link daun ug lain na syndicate or himu.an ug lain story.

Weee! Di nga?

Very specific kaayo ang gi-exposed nga mga alpha numeric code anang mga tatto-a. Usa lang ka letra o number ana ang dili mo-match, mapamatud-an na nga bakak ang gisulting Bikoy ug wala nay motuo sa mosunod pa nilang mga akusasyon kun naa pa man mosunod.

Pero hadlok gyud og maayo si Polong nga mopakita sa iyang tattoo. Ang kang Bong Go, gi-erase una sa wala pa ipakita iyang likod.

So, hunong na sa pag-ilusyon.

Kay bisan pa unsaon og ligwat, the only sensible explanation is hadlok sila makit-an tungod kay exact match man sa specific description sa mga tattoo nga gi-exposed.

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I seriously do not know as I have not seen precise guidelines. Ikaw, kibaw ka sa objective process involved sa listing?

Same to you maam, nag wonder rako nganong ma butang ilang name didto. Ako name wala man. Imoha naa didto kaha?

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Quote Originally Posted by obelisk View Post
So, instead of magsige ug prove na sayop ang accuser, mas maau na ang accuser mu hatag ug proof.

Isn't this the mechanics of the drug list? You are put in the list, then it's either you surrender or you try to clear your name?

I was actually referring to this question.

I was wondering why people in the first place were included in the list? ... That makes me wonder why my name wasn't in the list.

And also asking if naa ba sa list imong name?

Threadcrap? To me that's a perfectly valid question? Don't you think so maam?

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Like I said, to my knowledge I do not know of any specific guidelines in the making of the list. How would it make any difference if naa ko sa list or not, knowing na I do not know the specific guidelines? It would not really answer the question noh?

There is actually what they call BADAC, I know somebody who works in the government who is currently in active duty.
As I've heard from him personally, it will usually start from word by mouth, and people who are drug dependents are encouraged to clear their names. Because of such program, family members, friends, relatives who care about their loved ones who are into it, were/are the ones who reports to the authorities. This list will actually grow when that drug-dependent will usually say.

"Nganong ako raman?, kana diay si " ....".

As the list grows, people actually voluntarily surrenders will actually surrender is a misnomer, as what the authorities call it as "they are being encouraged or invited".

After such, they are enrolled into a drug-rehab program.

I have personally known somebody who are into the program and quit all together doing drugs, karon naulian ang lawas. Nihamis, niguapo- bati man tug nawong sa una kay lagu, adik2x kayg dagway.

The program is not for everyone as others will probably be back to the habit.

He told me that there are really others who despite him knowing never admit and will not be listed.

He told me, naa nana nila.

Actually the program has good intentions, if applied correctly. Daghan ko nahibalo-an sa among probinsya nga limpyo na. Some of them I personally know kay kababata nako.

But to answer the question in a direct manner. As what I've heard, the list actually starts from an announcement or call, or whatever you call it. Friends, relatives, loved ones, and even the addict himself will present himself to the authorities to get listed.

This is where the list starts to pile up.

After that, this is where tokhang begins, wherein the police visits the house, of the drug-d, and urge the drug-d to quit the vice.

That word now, has been clouded with too much controversies however.

Quoted below are some of guidelines from other regions.

Mamamayang Ayaw sa Anomalya, Mamamayang Ayaw sa Iligal na Droga (MASA-MASID)

MASA MASID is a community-based initiative to engage volunteers in the fight against criminality, corruption, and illegal drugs.

PURPOSE
To heighten community involvement by mobilizing the support of local stakeholders, volunteers, civic organizations, faith-based organizations, and the private sectors in the fight against illegal drugs.
Specifically, the Program aims to:

Intensify the advocacy and education campaign in the community;
Mobilize the community in gathering information by installing a reporting mechanism on the illegal activities in the locality;
Mobilize support group and encourage sharing of available resources to hasten the implementation of the Community-Based Rehabilitation Program; and
Create an enabling environment to encourage collaboration among the community partners to effectively implement the Community-Based Rehabilitation Program.
IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES

Demand Reduction through Advocacy and Education Campaigns
Supply Reduction through Information Gathering and Reporting
Community-Based Rehabilitation Program
Holistic intervention for recovering drug patient with focus on the healing of the body and soul
Covers psychological, neurological, spiritual and social dimensions
Focuses not only on the healing of the patients but also car
e for their families and the whole community
Will be facilitated by the Community Rehabilitation Network Program duration is 48 days depending the condition of the patient.
The Community-Based Rehabilitation Program has three (3) components namely:

Patients’ Care
Family Care
Community Care
ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES

Provincial Government
Ensure that the Anti-Drug Abuse Councils are organized and operational in the province, component cities, municipalities and barangays;
Provide support for the organization and mobilization of the MASA MASID Team and the Community Rehabilitation Network;
Provide support for the establishment of the Community-Based Rehabilitation Program;
Provide support to the treated/drug free individual by endorsing him/her for job opportunity; and
Monitor the implementation of the Program.
City/Municipal Government
Ensure that the Anti-Drug Abuse Councils are organized and operational in the city/municipality and component barangays;
Provide support for the organization and mobilization of the MASA MASID Team and the Community Rehabilitation Network;
Consolidate the location of the surrenderers;
Provide support for the establishment of the Community-Based Rehabilitation Program;
Organize activities with the participation of the drug patients and other members of the community such as sports, Zumba, tree planting, and livelihood activities for them to inter-act with other members of the community to minimize stigma towards individual undergoing rehabilitation;
Provide support to the treated/drug free individual by endorsing him/her for job opportunity; and
Monitor the implementation of the Program.
DILG Provincial Field Offices
Advocate the MASA MASID Program to the local government units;
Coordinate with and provide technical assistance to DILG Field Officers at the City/Municipal level in the implementation of the Program;
Orient the Expanded UBAS C/M TWG on the Program; and
Oversee the implementation of the Program in the component cities, municipalities and barangays and ensure its successful implementation.

EXECUTIVE ORDER No. 46-2017 Mamamayang Ayaw sa Anomalya, Mamamayang Ayaw sa Iligal na Droga | Oton Iloilo

DILG strengthens MASA MASID, BADAC
Published on October 30, 2017
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San Jose, Antique Oct. 30 (PIA) - The Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG) recently conducted the provincial orientation on the Mamamayang Ayaw sa Anomalya, Mamamayang Ayaw sa Iligal na Droga or the MASA-MASID program and Strengthening of the Barangay Anti-Drug Abuse Council (BADAC) at the CAP Building, San Jose, Antique.

DILG VI Regional Director Atty. Anthony C. Nuyda said that the MASA-MASID will be cascaded to the barangays before the year ends.

“Sama sama po tayo dito. Sana po maging matagumpay ang ating kampanya” said Nuyda as he urged the representatives of DILG, PNP, DSWD, DOH, other national government agencies, faith-based organizations, local government units, the barangays and the community facilitators to make this program successful.

Likewise, PSSupt. Leo Irwin Agpangan, Provincial Director Antique PNP said that the war against drugs should be a joint effort of national government agencies and the communities.

He urged other NGAs to focus on drug eradication, have an effective action plan and further intensify the campaign against illegal drugs.

The activity aims to reinforce the commitment of public officials and the different sectors of the society in the fight against drugs, corruption, criminality and violent extremism said Provincial Director Victorio Pagapulan of DILG.

The MASA-MASID program was launched in September 2016 aimed at preventing corruption, illegal drugs and criminality in barangays but there is still a need to reorient the key implementers since the revised guidelines were only released last August 2017.

All LGUs in the Province of Antique have already organized and created the MASA MASID TWG and MASA MASID Teams (MMT), said Information Officer Judy Mae Magdato.

However, there were significant changes as the project is being implemented. The Community-Based Rehabilitation Program is no longer part of the program’s strategy which is now under the DOH as mandated by Dangerous Drugs Board Resolution No. 3, according to DILG R6 LGMED Chief Dino Ponsaran.

In attendance during the activity were Municipal Mayors, Chiefs of Police, MSWDOs, Municipal Health Officers, faith based organization representatives, Liga ng mga Barangay presidents, MADAC representatives (CSO/NGO), Municipal Local Government Operations Officers (MLGOOs) and MASA-MASID community facilitators. (DILG/JCM/PIA6Antique).

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Thank you for this. This shows na wala jud diay objective basis. Based ra sa hearsay. Why isn't the admin "encouraging" Polong to clear his name though pursuant to this procedure though? Labi na he is running again.

Badac is actually for Barangays.

I wouldn't know much about Polong, I think it is all over the news that he was cleared of any drug charges.

Quick Google would say it though.

If others choose to believe otherwise then it will be another case filed against him, or maybe another Senate Inquiry, but I think the Senate inquiry involving him prove futile.

The son of Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte was cleared on Wednesday of any involvement with a shipment of methamphetamine which was smuggled into the country, the Office of the Ombudsman of the Philippines said.

Paolo Duterte, 43, had been named as one of the middle-men in the receipt of a shipment of 604 kilograms (1331 pounds) of methamphetamine hydrochloride from China, worth around $125 million.

"The complaints against former Davao City Vice Mayor Paolo Duterte and Attorney Manases Carpio were dismissed for lack of basis," the Office of the Ombudsman said in a statement.

Attorney Carpio is married to the president's daughter, Sara Duterte.

The shipment entered the country with the alleged complicity of the customs service and was subsequently seized by the police.

The incident garnered a lot of media attention in the country, where authorities have cracked down on the illegal narcotics trade since Rodrigo Duterte came to power in June 2016.

Thousands have been killed in police raids and extra-judicial operations against alleged drug dealers and users.

The investigation into the potential involvement of two of the president's relatives was based on statements by two customs officials and Senator Antonio Trillanes, one of Duterte's fiercest critics.

After a preliminary investigation, a Senate Committee concluded in August last year that there was no evidence to implicate Paolo Duterte in the drug-trafficking operation. The ombudsman's ruling on Wednesday fully clears him of any wrongdoing.

Having pledged to cripple the country's rampant illegal drug trade during his successful election campaign, upon taking office in June 2017, the Philippine leader promised that he would resign if it was proved that any member of his family was linked to the drug trade.

Filipino authorities say that over 7,000 people have died in the so-called "war on drugs", while international rights groups such as Human Rights Watch estimate that over 12,000 have been killed.

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Thank you for this. This shows na wala jud diay objective basis. Based ra sa hearsay. Why isn't the admin "encouraging" Polong to clear his name though pursuant to this procedure though? Labi na he is running again.

Is Polong a drug dependent? I might ask?

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A lot of those in the list had no cases filed, yet they were still included in the list. A lot of those in the list were not proven to be drug dependents, yet they were still included in the list. My point is, court decisions here cannot really be relied on. It doesnt mean they are innocent, just that there is not enough evidence to convict.

The stand of the Palace when it comes to drug cases is guilt until proven innocent. Why are they now inconsistent when it comes to Polong, especially since he is running for public office? But when it comes to their opponents, all-out-war jud?

When you say "list", which list are we talking about here?

Also, I would like to make a correction. I don't think there is a case filed against polong. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Because preliminary investigation is not even a case. There is one when you are when you are being arraigned.

I would have to disagree with "guilt until proven innocent" though, there was never an instance that I can recall the government said that you are guilty unless proven innocent. If you could direct me into one that would be much of interest to me.

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The drug list. My point is, the standards they hold in making the list should be applicable to everyone, including Polong. Like you said, they use even hearsay when determining who should be in the list. The "suspect" is then encouraged to clear his name. Sayop ako term na "case", but my point still stands. The decision made by the Ombudsman shouldnt really apply here because the dismissal of complaint by the Ombudsman didn't say that Polong was innocent, just that there was not enough evidence to sustain the case.


https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...ved-candidates

Oh... so you were talking about the "Narco List", please note that with regards to the list that I was talking about was for the barangay level only.

With regards to the "Narco List", I am pretty sure they have some form of evidence closely held by PDEA itself.
Unfortunately, I can't add more factual basis to it.

With regards to the Ombudsman on polong. A case would only move forward if there was enough evidence.
That is why we have the "presumption of innocence". There was lack of evidence, then he is presumed innocent.

This is the same with Senator De Lima, up until now although she is in custody, she remains innocent. However, because there was enough evidence against her, that qualifies that she be held in custody thus, she is in custody.

If you were accused of stealing something, and upon preliminary investigation found to be false. You will be released for lack of evidence too.

By the way, it is only the judge who determines your guilt. Even the judge would say, it is the law which determines your guilt or innocence, but that is beside the point.

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The drug list. My point is, the standards they hold in making the list should be applicable to everyone, including Polong. Like you said, they use even hearsay when determining who should be in the list. The "suspect" is then encouraged to clear his name. Sayop ako term na "case", but my point still stands. The decision made by the Ombudsman shouldnt really apply here because the dismissal of complaint by the Ombudsman didn't say that Polong was innocent, just that there was not enough evidence to sustain the case.


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Also, with regards to "assumed guilty unless innocent" the article you were referring to applies "only" to the people who run/ran for public office.

Let me qualify it too, that when I say "apply" it is within Panelo's and the Presidents thinking only. I would somehow agree with this because our courts have actually ruled on this previously, although I think that case was about "freedom of speech".

I believe this is so because court cases would somehow insinuate that upon running for public office, your entire person becomes a public figure and doing so would somehow "waive" your right to privacy, and your life becomes a subject discussions and scrutiny, that involves every aspect of your life. Even to the point of your family.

Moreso if you are the President of the Philippines.

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Im pretty sure PDEA uses the barangay list as a basis for the narco list though.

My issue is not on the guilt or innocence of Polong. It is in the inconsistency by which the Palace implements its stand. They arbitrarily accuse people of being involved with drugs, and are completely silent when it comes to their allies.

The Palace says guilt before proven innocent when it comes to public officials. But they are not investigating Polong, who is running for a public position. Polong has not been proven innocent yet by any court. Using their standards, he is guilty.

To sum it up, he is given special treatment. No change from the Aquino administration when it comes to palakasan.

With regards to the "Narco List". I simply couldn't say much. But I don't think Drug lords like, the Parojinogs, Espinosas, Protectors like De Lima, Mike Rama, the Peter Lim, Herbert Colangco, Peter Co, the generals like Marcelo Garbo Jr., Joel Pagdilao, Edgardo Tinio, Bernardo Diaz, and Vic Loot.

I doubt this intel came from that barangay level list.

Aside from polong which allies are you talking about?

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Since you agree with them, and since Polong is running for Congress, you also agree that by the standards of the President, Polong is currently guilty?

I would subscribe to the idea of people assumed to have "waived" their right to privacy, thus their lives becomes a public figure subject to scrutiny. But would not agree to "presumption of guilt unless proven innocent" mantra.

Panelo as a lawyer I believe would never also prescribe to such.

Please read how Panelo said it. It is only the author who said it and not Panelo though.

Take a careful look at the article. The presumption of innocence was mangled together with libel.

Seriously, I would like to hear it directly from him through hearing the actual interview, at least didto dire diretso gikan sa iyang baba.

MANILA, Philippines — As far as President Rodrigo Duterte is concerned, those running for elected positions had waived their right to be presumed innocent, presidential spokesperson Salvador Panelo said.


Panelo, who is also Duterte's chief legal counsel, said that the Palace understands the principle of the presumption of innocence, but he believes the public’s “right to know” about alleged drug-linked candidates takes precedence.

“We'd like to tell them that the Constitution gives people right to know matters of public concern, especially those that concern their lives and welfare,” Panelo said.

“Now we have placed the drug problem as a national security [threat]. We are on the precipice of destruction if we cannot stop this drug industry,” he added.

Amid concerns that names may be erroneously placed on the list, Panelo said on Monday’s press conference that they have legal recourse and may sue if names on the list feel like they are being “libeled.”

But during Tuesday’s press conference he said that even proving libel would be “difficult.”

“We believe presumption of innocence does not apply,” Panelo said. “Even if they file for libel, it would be difficult. Because libel has malicious intent, this doesn’t have it [malicious intent],” Panelo said.


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