Born Again churches here in Cebu

[luci_morningstar]

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the people around will know it first kung naa bay nausab since you became born again or accepted Jesus

you can assess yourself man sad if naa bay significant good changes sa imong kinabuhi since that moment or nagpaka-aron ingnon ka, or you have other motives etc

and lastly, God knows your heart if you truly follows him or not.

So Ang Ginoo ra jud diay nakahibalo if malangit ka or dili.

Jeremiah 17:9-10
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? “I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.”

1 Samuel 16:7
But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”


So based on that, I dont think Man has the capability of determining if Malangit naba siya or dili while Buhi pa.

[luci_morningstar]

read John 8:11

"She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."

The Context of the Verse if you read the whole chapter is all about a Woman who was condemned of Adultery, Jesus Said go and Sin no More. Meaning Dont commit adultery, the verse did not mean the woman will Not commit any SIN in the Future. in the other bible version, it says - "Go now and leave your life of sin.", "Go, and from now on do not sin anymore."

Ug sa bisaya pa, Lakaw ug ayaw na pagpakasala or ayaw na ug Buhat ug sala, Its a commandment Not a revelation.

So sin is unavoidable? again that is not correct.
read 1 Corinthians 10:13

That verse talk about Temptations, not sin. Man can commit Sin without being tempted.

If you live 1 year on earth, do you think MAN cannot commit any SIN for that period?

I dont think so.

Romans 3: 23
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Mao nay Proof nga tanan tawo nakasala ug makasala.

yes I have but read carefully "after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins."
There is a difference before and after receiving the knowledge of the truth. Are you accusing me of committing sin after I have receive the knowledge of the truth? Isn't that bit of judgemental?

So Ani nlang, naka receive naka sa knowledge sa truth from God?

if yes, naka commit naka ug sin after?

[rics zalved]

So Ang Ginoo ra jud diay nakahibalo if malangit ka or dili.

Jeremiah 17:9-10
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? “I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.”

1 Samuel 16:7
But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”


So based on that, I dont think Man has the capability of determining if Malangit naba siya or dili while Buhi pa.

mahibaw-an man nimo jud samtang buhi pa ka if you assess yourself kung heartily ba nimo gidawat si Jesus kay it will result man sad into a intimate relationship with God nga you walk with Him na and you let God lead you and change you nga moresult sad ug fruits especially repentance

d man na malikayan nga even though giaccept na nimo siya di na ka makasala, human as we are, makahimo man ta pero the good thing is gipasaylo na ta everytime makasala ta, and if you are truly a disciple, not a hypocrite fake one, di nimo na abusohon, morepent gyud ka kay those who are truly "born-again" are the ones who will persevere to the end.

being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. (Philippians 1:6)

and to make it more clear sad, kadtong giingon nga not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the kingdom, these are also the people nga wala morely solely to Jesus as their Savior kay gusto nila sagulan ang ilang salvation like good works, religion, etc... and also sila sad ni ang mga false prophet and their followers who used Jesus for their own profit.

salvation through accepting Jesus by faith is two sides of a coin, apil jud ana ang commitment and repentance kay kung accept2x lang is not the saving faith... if you are really a committed follower of Jesus, it is your true faith that compels you to be changed and disciplined by God and to do his will and to used by Him for the expansion of His kingdom.

[Kenshiro]

The Context of the Verse if you read the whole chapter is all about a Woman who was condemned of Adultery, Jesus Said go and Sin no More. Meaning Dont commit adultery, the verse did not mean the woman will Not commit any SIN in the Future. in the other bible version, it says - "Go now and leave your life of sin.", "Go, and from now on do not sin anymore."

"Sin no more" Jesus is commanding her to commit no more adultery so does that mean she can steal but not adultery? Of course not it says sin no more. It doesnt mean that she cannot not commit sin in the future but it certainly is avoidable.

So Ani nlang, naka receive naka sa knowledge sa truth from God?
if yes, naka commit naka ug sin after?

We are not discussing about if we have commited sin or not but if it is avoidable or not.
I agree with you Bro on your standpoint that the sins of the past is unavoidable since its already been done.
But You are on dangerous grounds if you meddle of the sins of the past and your good works in the past if you look at other people. This is not to be your standpoint judgement is reserverd for Christ.

All I can tell you is that I have fallen short of the Glory of God but we also have the command to avoid sin and sin no more. Yes I have sinned it would be presumption to say I have not.
But future sin is certainly avoidable.
All of us have sinned fall short but that doesn't mean we don't have the power to overcome sin and to live perfect lives as what Jesus commanded "Be ye Perfect".
Notice Jesus commanded us, so this is our future dealings and not the past.

Looking foreward sin is certainly avoidable. -1 Corinthians 10:13
To live sanctified lives is certainly possible as Jesus commands Matthew 5:48
but not by our power but through Christ "I can do all things through Christ" Philippians 4:13

"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:"
Acts 17:30

God commands us to repent and not heed to excuses that sin is unavoidable.

I hope you grow further in you walk with christ bro if you church hinders your zeal for biblical truth then best to get away from these churches. God still has the pure church the pure woman in Revelation in these last days.

[Rodrigo Busa]

Ayaw mo pag away. Chill lang naa pa mas dagko nga butang nga dapat ninyo bantayan.

[luff101]

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