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  1. #14721

    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post

    Did you know that There is still the Senate, The President and the People who can overturn that budget?
    In the spirit of logic, what we are talking about is the act of Congress right now. We are not talking about the future, kay hypothetical na tanan if mao na atu topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Just presenting chronological order of events sir.

    This could have come from any other person.. It just so happens that TP was the first one to post it or probably notice this.



    This could have even come from the Inquirer.
    Okay sir, no need to be defensive about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disk88 View Post
    In the spirit of logic, what we are talking about is the act of Congress right now. We are not talking about the future, kay hypothetical na tanan if mao na atu topic.

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    Okay sir, no need to be defensive about it.
    Aw lisod pud kaayo sir i limit nato ang atong discussion to Congress when we have already explored the entire world of law and politics, ni abot na gani kas ROC.. nga wala pata didto.

    Not defensive sir.. Again just merely stating facts of events which really actually happened.

    But to satisfy your question sir.

    The act of Congress alone does not constitute Constructive Abolishment of the CHR.. It is merely an act of a the legislature to do checks and balances to an institution's head it deemed politically biased..

    But then again I have already answered this and violated my last statement not to answer this again..

    Bali ikaduhang MR nani sir.

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    Bitaw sir..

    I think we have come to a point where neither parties agree on a single thing..

    I say this is not constructive abolishment, you'd say this is.

    I say this CHR's constitutional mandate is to the people in general you'd say, it is up to them to choose which area to focus.

    I say this is political in nature you'd say this is judicial.

    I say we base this argument on Constitutional grounds you'd say Rules of Court applies,

    I say Human Rights Victims can go to PAO, you'd say they can't.

    I say Chito Gascon is biased towards LP, you'd say he is not.

    I think this ends here.

    And let the due course takes it turn.
    Last edited by firestarter; 09-20-2017 at 05:40 PM.

  3. #14723
    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Aw lisod pud kaayo sir i limit nato ang atong discussion to Congress when we have already explored the entire world of law and politics, ni abot na gani kas ROC.. nga wala pata didto.

    Not defensive sir.. Again just merely stating facts of events which really actually happened.

    But to satisfy your question sir.

    The act of Congress alone does not constitute Constructive Abolishment of the CHR.. It is merely an act of a the legislature to do checks and balances to an institution's head it deemed politically biased..

    But then again I have already answered this and violated my last statement not to answer this again..

    Bali ikaduhang MR nani sir.

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    Bitaw sir..

    I think we have come to a point where neither parties agree on a single thing..

    I say this is not constructive abolishment, you'd say this is.

    I say this CHR's constitutional mandate is to the people in general you'd say, it is up to them to choose which area to focus.

    I say this is political in nature you'd say this is judicial.

    I say we base this argument on Constitutional grounds you'd say Rules of Court applies,

    I say Human Rights Victims can go to PAO, you'd say they can't.

    I say Chito Gascon is biased towards LP, you'd say he is not.

    I think this ends here.

    And let the due course takes it turn.
    Sa kadaghan nimo g.ingun sir imo unta na gigamit instead to answer a very simple yes or no question and humana unta ang conversation . But i cant force you to do that.

    The fact also remains despite all the legal sources i provided you, at most TP and rappler ra imo ma present. That's also okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disk88 View Post
    Sa kadaghan nimo g.ingun sir imo unta na gigamit instead to answer a very simple yes or no question and humana unta ang conversation . But i cant force you to do that.

    The fact also remains despite all the legal sources i provided you, at most TP and rappler ra imo ma present. That's also okay.
    Again sir..

    It's not TP.. and I beg to differ.. The fact remains that those events happened.

    Did Gascon at one time or another pursued Duterte's alleged human rights violation days after Duterte announced his Presidential bid?

    YES!

    Was Gascon a Political ally of LP at one time or another. YES! he was even the Director General of the Presidential campaign.

    Did Alvarez say that he will go on revising the the CHR's budget once Gascon resigns. YES!

    These are all facts.

    And NO law can disprove this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Again sir..

    It's not TP.. and I beg to differ.. The fact remains that those events happened.

    Did Gascon at one time or another pursued Duterte's alleged human rights violation days after Duterte announced his Presidential bid?

    YES!

    Was Gascon a Political ally of LP at one time or another. YES! he was even the Director General of the Presidential campaign.

    Did Alvarez say that he will go on revising the the CHR's budget once Gascon resigns. YES!

    These are all facts.

    And NO law can disprove this.
    Just a yes or no to my question sir para mahuman ta.. Lisud? You made me answer a yes or no question days ago, and i answered. Dili ba unfair? Hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disk88 View Post
    Just a yes or no to my question sir para mahuman ta.. Lisud? You made me answer a yes or no question days ago, and i answered. Dili ba unfair? Hehe.
    NO sir.


    I think I answered it pretty much already, para dili na mo taas ang argument.

    Basin mo ingon na pud kag why man naka ingon kag no?

    That was to save both of our time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    NO sir.

    I think I answered it pretty much already, para dili na mo taas ang argument.

    Basin mo ingon na pud kag why man naka ingon kag no?

    That was to save both of our time.
    Question was if hatagan nimo ug P1 budget ang DENR, can they perform their mandate ba gihapon.

    You answered a big NO.

    There you go, constructive abolishment. Is that allowed? A big NO.

    Dara raman diay na.

  8. #14728
    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    It is up to you sir .. lain lain man ang tawo.. pero if you want a healthy argument on this.. Just say so.. This is what this forum is all about..
    lain2x ang mga taw.. pero ang gi buhat ni Triliannes nga ni adto sa branch aron i prove nga nag pataka lang ug yaw2x ang current admin about sa mga bank account number kai ni work

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    ka mga brayt sa mga tao diri oy. bisan unsaon og yabo ma pun.an raman gihapon

  10. #14730
    Point has become moot: House restores budget for CHR, 2 other agencies | ABS-CBN News. The only effect it had was make Alvarez look like a bully.

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