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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Here I thought you were objective, just because I called you pro yellow you were offended? That wasn't ad hominem for all I care bro.
    Can't get offended if it ain't true right?

    Thinking Pinoy: What did Chito Gascon do?

    Try it here... maybe you'll get some point of my inferences but again I'm politically biased .. but if you can't bet them join them right?

    I'll fast forward your reading but it will make much sense if you read through from start to end. But anyway..

    " On June 28 2015, LP said it hopes to Duterte will back Mar after Duterte shelved his own presidential bid.

    On 07 December 2015, Duterte declined all VP offers and declared his candidacy via a technicality.

    on 11 December 2015, five days after Duterte filed his candidacy, the CHR announced that it will, for the third time, probe Duterte's alleged rights abuses, with Gascon on the lead.

    On 13 December 2015, Aquino and LP-led Malacanang publicly backed CHR's probe.

    Again you might not accept this as proof, but it is to my mind as being politically biased a piece of crap on the side of CHR..
    What? You think I was offended by that? Not at all. The fact the you resorted to that is very telling is all. Also, the fact that you link to TP is also very telling of who you are as a person.

    Now, that is not a hard fact. That is not evidence pointing toward bias at all. And ang interpretation nimo ana could be very different from how I see it. That is why niingun ko na we have to agree to disagree. For all we know, it was initiated to stop a known mayor who loves putting justice into his own hands from achieving more power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Sumpayan nato bro.

    And I quote " It's August 2016, three months have passed since then, and we are faced with yet another investigation. Judging from Gascon's insistence on the International Criminal Court angle despite lack of evidence, the CHR has pretty much pre-judged Duterte.
    Pre-judged? I dont think their judgement of him was without basis bro. If wala ka kadungog anang DDS and summary executions sa Davao even before elections kay I will say youre joking. What's wrong with investigating him? Hotspot for summary executions man jud ang Davao diba? Proud gani kaayo siya ana na fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disk88 View Post
    What? You think I was offended by that? Not at all. The fact the you resorted to that is very telling is all. Also, the fact that you link to TP is also very telling of who you are as a person.

    Now, that is not a hard fact. That is not evidence pointing toward bias at all. And ang interpretation nimo ana could be very different from how I see it. That is why niingun ko na we have to agree to disagree. For all we know, it was initiated to stop a known mayor who loves putting justice into his own hands from achieving more power.

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    Pre-judged? I dont think their judgement of him was without basis bro. If wala ka kadungog anang DDS and summary executions sa Davao even before elections kay I will say youre joking. What's wrong with investigating him? Hotspot for summary executions man jud ang Davao diba? Proud gani kaayo siya ana na fact.
    Ohh ohhh.. we are going there again..

    Maybe we need to stop here bro.. before we go somewhere else..

    Let's focus on Gascon for your points sakes.. but if you wanna divert to another discussion I'm still open to that..

    But then again, I would say that Gascon would have to go because of political bias.

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    Now with regards to DDS.. How far does your evidence go? Let's discuss it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Ohh ohhh.. we are going there again..

    Maybe we need to stop here bro.. before we go somewhere else..

    Let's focus on Gascon for your points sakes.. but if you wanna divert to another discussion I'm still open to that..

    But then again, I would say that Gascon would have to go because of political bias.

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    Now with regards to DDS.. How far does your evidence go? Let's discuss it..
    If naa kuy proof anang DDS, dugay na ko ni report to CHR. But like CHR, wala pud ko. What I have is probable cause to believe. And naa sa'y probable cause to believe ang CHR, tungod sa threats ni Duterte a long time ago just like in the Richard King case. Now probable cause and direct evidence are two very different things. But probable cause allows you to initiate investigation na. And CHR did. What's wrong with that. Mandate na nila diba? Ang reason why peaceful kuno ang Davao is because of their mayor's iron fist. And he has always been very vocal about killing everyone who stops him (not his exact words). That is probable cause for investigation na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disk88 View Post
    What? You think I was offended by that? Not at all. The fact the you resorted to that is very telling is all. Also, the fact that you link to TP is also very telling of who you are as a person.

    Now, that is not a hard fact. That is not evidence pointing toward bias at all. And ang interpretation nimo ana could be very different from how I see it. That is why niingun ko na we have to agree to disagree. For all we know, it was initiated to stop a known mayor who loves putting justice into his own hands from achieving more power.

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    Pre-judged? I dont think their judgement of him was without basis bro. If wala ka kadungog anang DDS and summary executions sa Davao even before elections kay I will say youre joking. What's wrong with investigating him? Hotspot for summary executions man jud ang Davao diba? Proud gani kaayo siya ana na fact.
    I'll throw away my political bias for a moment here, for the sake of objectivity and without any bias..

    Do you agree with the dates stated below as quoted? and Do you agree as to the veracity of the information stated below as quoted?

    That:

    On 11 December 2015, five days after Duterte filed his candidacy, the CHR announced that it will, for the third time, probe Duterte's alleged rights abuses, with Gascon on the lead.

    On 13 December 2015, Aquino and LP-led Malacanang publicly backed CHR's probe.

    On August 2016, three months have passed since then, and we are faced with yet another investigation. Judging from Gascon's insistence on the International Criminal Court angle despite lack of evidence
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    Quote Originally Posted by disk88 View Post
    If naa kuy proof anang DDS, dugay na ko ni report to CHR. But like CHR, wala pud ko. What I have is probable cause to believe. And naa sa'y probable cause to believe ang CHR, tungod sa threats ni Duterte a long time ago just like in the Richard King case. Now probable cause and direct evidence are two very different things. But probable cause allows you to initiate investigation na. And CHR did. What's wrong with that. Mandate na nila diba? Ang reason why peaceful kuno ang Davao is because of their mayor's iron fist. And he has always been very vocal about killing everyone who stops him (not his exact words). That is probable cause for investigation na.
    Without evidence we can't go forward to filing a case.. That's reality..

  5. #14605
    I hope mare-elect si Duterte next presidential election. murag kulang ra and 6yrs dah. If a Duterte runs again for presidency I will definitely campaign for them. Musamot kalabad ning mga utok sa mga Yellow. Unsa jud kayhay nabikil aning mga trolls ngare, makatawa nalng tag basa aning ilang mga arguments. Murag kang Penoy cgeg putak walay sulod.

  6. #14606
    Quote Originally Posted by jgore View Post
    I hope mare-elect si Duterte next presidential election. murag kulang ra and 6yrs dah. If a Duterte runs again for presidency I will definitely campaign for them. Musamot kalabad ning mga utok sa mga Yellow. Unsa jud kayhay nabikil aning mga trolls ngare, makatawa nalng tag basa aning ilang mga arguments. Murag kang Penoy cgeg putak walay sulod.
    based sa current constitution, dili pwede mo apply usab c duterte as president

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    I'll throw away my political bias for a moment here, for the sake of objectivity and without any bias..

    Do you agree with the dates stated below as quoted? and Do you agree as to the veracity of the information stated below as quoted?

    That:



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    Without evidence we can't go forward to filing a case.. That's reality..
    Well, even if I agree with the dates you mentioned, will it really matter? If you dont put color to the issue at hand, it doesnt really provide much probative value. You know why? Kay circumstantial rana tanan gimention nimo. Updated ka sa gipangyawit ni Trillanes? Same quality of argument sa iya ang imong gipangpresent. Walay hard evidence to draw a conclusion. Circumstantial tanan. Now if wala kay hard evidence, circumstantial ra, but still you continue to see him as a tainted yellow, then safe to say na biased jud ka. Even if mu ingon ka "ill throw my bias for a moment"

    Without evidence we cant file a case, but that is the point of investigations diba? To find evidence?

  8. #14608
    Para sa namong mga ignorante sa balaod og sa imo na sweto...naa man gud na sa ilang mandate/function nya tubagon ta nmo paris principle...naa jud na number 1 sa ila function ...nya anah ka way budget.....bisan kasikas lng na nag pakabana ang CHR..sa mga dagko hitabo wala jud? Sa last administration asa maning CHR kato mga gi pang massacre na mga farmers asa ang CHR? Katong nangadaot ang relief goods na para unta sa yolanda victims naay ni imbestiga CHR?

  9. #14609
    Quote Originally Posted by disk88 View Post
    http://198.23.173.74/chr/wp-content/...PORT-FINAL.pdf

    Dara sir para ma informed ka. Or google lang kung dili nimo ma open: commission on human rights 2015 annual
    Ambot lng gyud if mka himo pa sila ug accomplishment report sa 2016 and 2017 ky focus man kaau sila sa politics run..aaaand dli ma ingon nga accomplishment to sila..haha

    Look at the numbers on rights complained ni this report..

    Civil 1,087
    Political 2
    Economic 28
    Social 187
    Cultural 2

    Daghan man unta silay ma buhat pa other than opposed the administration as per this results.

    CHR is very much needed but it's not functioning well now in the new government due to political biased and shit.

  10. #14610
    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    based sa current constitution, dili pwede mo apply usab c duterte as president
    si mar roxas napud president..... GLHF

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