Originally Posted by
bordogoy
That's a good question boss but it's a bit vague. Agree ko anang not risking sa kinabuhi sa atong pulis so if mosukol ang suspect and will end up getting him killed, so be it. But if possible, we should arrest them, give them a trial and if they are found guilty, then prisohon and if death penalty will satisfy the majority, so be it.
I posted a link here 2 days or so ago about PDut nga nagbagulbol sa atong mga pulis tungod kay way klaro. So that means nga i was stating a point nga agree si PDut. Dli ni hambog ha.
One thing man gd sa atong discussion diri or people in majority is way maminaw if you're on the opposite side. Pero karon nga si PDut nay nisulti way ayo ang pulis, agree dayon ang majority. Kay si PDut na lagi ang nisulti. If you can find the link boss, you'll see nga he's not happy sa mga binuhatan sa pulis.
Bitaw dli kaau cya klaru, sorry boss heheheh
pero cge lng mejo kuha na nko imong, point of view....
so bali naay 2 ka justice type as stated below with their differences.
Retributive Justice |
Restorative Justice |
Misbehavior/offenses are committed against authorities and are violations of rules of law or policies |
Misbehavior/offenses are defined as acts against victims and the community, which violate people and community trust. |
Offender is accountable to authorities forthe misbehavior or offense. |
Offender is accountable to the victim andthe community. |
Accountability is equated with suffering.If offenders are made to suffer enough(i.e. expulsion or suspension) they have been held accountable. |
Accountability is defined as taking responsibility for behaviors and repairing the harm resulting from those behaviors.Success is measured by how much reparation was achieved. |
Victims are not the primary focus of the process. |
Victims and community are directly involved and play a key role in response to misbehavior/offenses. |
Offenders are defined by them is behavior/offense. Victim is defined by material and psychological loss. |
Offenders are defined by their capacity to take responsibility for their actions and change behavior. Victims are defined by losses and capacity to participate in the process for recovering losses and healing. |
Misbehavior/offenses are the result of individual choice with individual responsibility. |
Misbehavior/offenses have both individual and social dimensions and are the result of individual choice and the conditions that lead to the behavior. |
pag ka elect ni PRD as pres, iyang ganahan e follow nationwide ang retributive type, k mao na iyang g follow sa davao (and found it effective) , where as ang atong law is more on restorative type.....
krn ang mga tao sa pinas k used to the restorative justice, nya si PRD nahan ug retributive type...
mao ni ang nahitabo nga nag clash ang mga mindset sa pinas....sa mga nka sabot sa retributive k die hard support sa war on drugs, sa mga wala ka sabot sa retributive type (unknowingly they are pro-restorative) mo insist nga saup or bad ang g buhat ni PRD, violence is not the solution, etc....
ug mao ni nga g exploit sa yellow...g exploit sa yellow ang mga citizens nga lack ug information, pun.an daun ug mga press publications saying PRD style is bad, EJK blah-blah-blah!
when i voted for PRD, nka sabot nko sa iyang ganahan nga justice type, ug mao nga bisag unsa panang protesta2x, EJK, i labay ni PRD dli ko mo punit ana, k nahan man ko sa retributive justice....by the way SG is a retributive type
ang nahitabo sa mga press/media k wrong messaging......k instead of portraying that the pusher killed is this and that, ang adik gi EJK, etc.... ila untang g buhat k g pasabot sa mga tao nga PRD wants to change our justice system to retributive type.....cge nag lecture si PRD about ani sa iyang mga speeches pero way mga publication sa media ni gawas about ani mao ni ang nka bahog tik2x sa media part sa pinas hahahah