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    Quote Originally Posted by moz_k2 View Post
    I don't those guns are using NATO rounds.
    I hope the Philippine Arsenal is can manufacture the ammo for those guns.
    If not, adto China palit ug bala.
    there are 2 version the one that other one uses 5.56 (daw) the use by security guard agency are norinco

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    Got your point bro. I'm just concerned sa atong status ron. I'm pretty sure nga in the future, we will owe China a lot and what if moabot na ang point nga daghan na kaayo taga utang kabubut.on then they will ask for something in return nga dli nato kayang buhi.an? Say land or whatever.
    ngano sa china raman ta mag guol kung na ta utang ka bubuton?
    tungon sa mga news about china labi na gikan sa western media?

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    ngano sa china raman ta mag guol kung na ta utang ka bubuton?
    tungon sa mga news about china labi na gikan sa western media?
    dili kaha kay ang china ray nangawat sa atong yuta sa west philippine sea?

    maski wala pay ni report ana nga maski taga asang media murag astang batang walay bo-ot kahibaw man siguro ana noh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    Got your point bro. I'm just concerned sa atong status ron. I'm pretty sure nga in the future, we will owe China a lot and what if moabot na ang point nga daghan na kaayo taga utang kabubut.on then they will ask for something in return nga dli nato kayang buhi.an? Say land or whatever.

    Have you ever had that feeling nga dli ka ganahan mopahuwam sa imong butang but just because dako na kaayo kag utang kabubut.on sa nanghuwam then imo nalang ipahuwam? Murag inana nga case boss ba.

    I'm not saying that it will go to war but we should be more vigilant with their motives. PDut talks straight and saludo kaayo ko ana nga kabuot but wa ta kabalo ug unsay naa sa huna2 sa China. I got same feeling with you nga wala ni bad intentions ang China towards us. But WHAT IF naa?
    You've got a point bro regarding China as the Philippines' creditor, that's the same concern shared with the US, as China is holding close to 10% of their national debt. The only thing lang gyud is that digong already made this point right at the start, that he will veer towards China as part of his foreign policy, and besides it is only China that has shown interest in investing in him.

    I guess he got tired of all the BS after years of looking up to the US, actually kung naka sunod ka niya, he has his reason why he opted to go to China, as the US has let him down, time and time again.

    There is the concern with Mindanaoans viewing the Americans and even Christians as invaders,
    There is it with the US not interested in financing our public infrastructures, it's not just now, but for how many years, they didn't build anything for the betterment of the Philippines. I think mas maayo pa ang Japan kay naa ni silay JICA.
    There was his experience with CIA doing operations in Davao, and didn't even issue an apology or informed him as part of operational intergovernmental courtesy.
    At one time during the West Philippine Sea conflict, he directly ask a US official asking, Are you with us?
    The guy didn't even give a substantive answer as to the US stand.
    So, on and so forth.
    And besides, it was actually digong who said that he is a Socialist, which is middle center in the political spectrum which opposes the US highly Capitalist way of doing things.

    I think all these had him veering towards China and Russia. It's not that he permits China in taking over Philippines territory, It's just he will gain more from China than siding towards the US.

    May it be say.

    Economics, Politics, Human Rights, Historical inequities, Military advances, geographical location, the Philippines will benefit more veering to China than the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    ngano sa china raman ta mag guol kung na ta utang ka bubuton?
    tungon sa mga news about china labi na gikan sa western media?
    Nah. That's not my point bro. I think you know what i'm trying to say

    We don't need western media or any media. Just open your eyes. I got nothing against China but I can really smell something fishy and I hope PDut is aware of what he is doing. He's way to straight and way too nice which is a great thing pero we have to think deeper kay basin moabot ang time nga motake advantage ang China tungod kay dako kaayo sila ug natabang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    You've got a point bro regarding China as the Philippines' creditor, that's the same concern shared with the US, as China is holding close to 10% of their national debt. The only thing lang gyud is that digong already made this point right at the start, that he will veer towards China as part of his foreign policy, and besides it is only China that has shown interest in investing in him.

    I guess he got tired of all the BS after years of looking up to the US, actually kung naka sunod ka niya, he has his reason why he opted to go to China, as the US has let him down, time and time again.

    There is the concern with Mindanaoans viewing the Americans and even Christians as invaders,
    There is it with the US not interested in financing our public infrastructures, it's not just now, but for how many years, they didn't build anything for the betterment of the Philippines. I think mas maayo pa ang Japan kay naa ni silay JICA.
    There was his experience with CIA doing operations in Davao, and didn't even issue an apology or informed him as part of operational intergovernmental courtesy.
    At one time during the West Philippine Sea conflict, he directly ask a US official asking, Are you with us?
    The guy didn't even give a substantive answer as to the US stand.
    So, on and so forth.
    And besides, it was actually digong who said that he is a Socialist, which is middle center in the political spectrum which opposes the US highly Capitalist way of doing things.

    I think all these had him veering towards China and Russia. It's not that he permits China in taking over Philippines territory, It's just he will gain more from China than siding towards the US.

    May it be say.

    Economics, Politics, Human Rights, Historical inequities, Military advances, geographical location, the Philippines will benefit more veering to China than the US.
    Sure bro. And we are doing quite well now with China's help. But i'm talking about the future. Invading wise, you think China is better than US? I mean US didn't really take any of lands (as far as I know). But I can smell that China will do that in not a long time from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    Sure bro. And we are doing quite well now with China's help. But i'm talking about the future. Invading wise, you think China is better than US? I mean US didn't really take any of lands (as far as I know). But I can smell that China will do that in not a long time from now.
    If you are saying we are doing better these days because of china, you need to check your facts. China is "helping" sure. They are helping on the right while taking our islands on the left that's a fact. But to say we are doing better because of china? That can't be farther from the truth.

    Check the history of our country's performance starting from the latest financial crisis. You know? Back in the day when "china" is what it is, a thief not yet the "hero" our president and his blind followers perceive it to be. Check where our country was back then. Apila pa tong time nga yolanda unya ang mga insik maoy kinalasan nitabang nato kay "naowow" nalang sa mga donation sa international community. Check asa atong nasud atong panahona compared sa region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMing View Post
    If you are saying we are doing better these days because of china, you need to check your facts. China is "helping" sure. They are helping on the right while taking our islands on the left that's a fact. But to say we are doing better because of china? That can't be farther from the truth.

    Check the history of our country's performance starting from the latest financial crisis. You know? Back in the day when "china" is what it is, a thief not yet the "hero" our president and his blind followers perceive it to be. Check where our country was back then. Apila pa tong time nga yolanda unya ang mga insik maoy kinalasan nitabang nato kay "naowow" nalang sa mga donation sa international community. Check asa atong nasud atong panahona compared sa region.
    Got your point bro. And I think we just said the same thing lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    kita diri kay mga oplok raman gyud ta tanan. puro ra ni intelligent guess or hypothesis ra ni atong storya diri. sila raman gyud ni presRod ug iyang mga kauban ang nakabalo sa tanan, audience ra ta ani, sila ang main actors ............


    pero mao man gud ni ang fact ..... si presRod, niputol gyud cya sa ties sa america and niduol cya sa russia ug china and both china and russia reached out to us. i'm sure a guy such as duterte will have a very good reason to why he did this ...

    @MeMing .............. boss, i'm not defending china, but as for that so called very delayed help coming from china, well, i can truly understand that, coz china during those times ( under abnoy admin ) still hasn't forgotten that Failed Bus-Hostage incident in which a lot of their countrymen has died ...... AND ... the actions of the pinoys after that incident that they took photos in front of the Bus with smiling faces .....
    Good point boss. Pero taw rasad si PDut. He can still be fooled or be played. But you're right, audience ra ta. Hahaha

    Let's hope for the best nalang

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    Nah. That's not my point bro. I think you know what i'm trying to say

    We don't need western media or any media. Just open your eyes. I got nothing against China but I can really smell something fishy and I hope PDut is aware of what he is doing. He's way to straight and way too nice which is a great thing pero we have to think deeper kay basin moabot ang time nga motake advantage ang China tungod kay dako kaayo sila ug natabang.
    di ba mao man pud na ginabuhat sa US ug EU?
    mas worst pa gali sa uban western powers kai kung dili ka ma uyonan either invasion or civil war

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