Old Jeepneys phase-out

[firestarter]

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naa lng koy comment gamay bahin sa truck driver. dli sakto nga truck driver cla kay mas wala clay alam sa exam sa LTO.
mas kamao pana cla bahin ana kay cge mana clag drive. bali experience nana cla kaau.

mas maau unta humble lng ta dli lng nato e down ang isig ka tao. kay abing lago cla tanawn. nya dli mana nila sala kng ma hagbong ta. kita may nag answer sa atong exam.

OnT: para sa akoa ok ra bisag 100 years na ang jeep basta naka pasar sa standards. mas concern pako sa batasan sa driver bisag kaikog na lng unta sa isig ka tao. kanang dli mag pa taka ug hunong nya maka cause daun ug traffick.

You have a point, but unfortunately bro dili man ikaw nag exam didto you will never know. Try lang didto brod para makasabot ka sa pamaagi sa LTO didto sa Talisay try ug agi ug seminar and take sa exam didto, di ba layo ra kaayo ang exam sa ilang gipanulti. Pero digong naman ron basin na usab.

While it's true that you can't judge a book by it's cover, but, sometimes the clothes make the man.

Unfortunately ang kadtong ni take sa exam nga kuyog nako 30 years na pud to nga ga drive sa Cebu, ang usa nako ka kauban licensyado nga enhinyero.

Pero mao lage dili man ka makasabot kay dili man ikaw ang naa didto mismo ni take sa exam ug naka experience ug unsay kabuang didto sa LTO, hence, diri nalang kutob ning istoryaha.

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OnT:

Bisan unsaon nato more than 50 years naning jeepney. I think it's about time we apply modern methods and modern technology.

Change has come, there is bound to be resistance.

[brownie]

You have a point, but unfortunately bro dili man ikaw nag exam didto you will never know. Try lang didto brod para makasabot ka sa pamaagi sa LTO didto sa Talisay try ug agi ug seminar and take sa exam didto, di ba layo ra kaayo ang exam sa ilang gipanulti. Pero digong naman ron basin na usab.

While it's true that you can't judge a book by it's cover, but, sometimes the clothes make the man.

Unfortunately ang kadtong ni take sa exam nga kuyog nako 30 years na pud to nga ga drive sa Cebu, ang usa nako ka kauban licensyado nga enhinyero.

Pero mao lage dili man ka makasabot kay dili man ikaw ang naa didto mismo ni take sa exam ug naka experience ug unsay kabuang didto sa LTO, hence, diri nalang kutob ning istoryaha.

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OnT:

Bisan unsaon nato more than 50 years naning jeepney. I think it's about time we apply modern methods and modern technology.

Change has come, there is bound to be resistance.

Breaking news: Water is still darn wet on the other side. (with intended pun)

[cobraKing]

phase out na kay taya na kaau unya mka mansa sa tshrt or sa uniform..

[firestarter]

Breaking news: Water is still darn wet on the other side. (with intended pun)

Water bag broke? .. Unsay problema nimo bradier? Kay pwede kaayo na didto nimo i reklamo sa LTO, ug kang mayor tom. Take it up with them.

If your trying to take it personal with me... this is not the right forum.. If your still sour that I don't have a "trophy car" as what you mistakenly judged, don't me. If your still bitter that I'm not a government employee or has a relative working in one. Don't me twice.

If your still badgering me to take on with you and your line of thought. don't me thrice. If you are looking for someone to dump your desperation with this government or personal predicament, don't me the fourth time. I'm not your mother, not your girlfriend wife and absolutely not someone you can bully. Don't me for the last time.

It's obvious you are wanting to pick a fight or an argument here, unfortunately I don't dig your drift bradier, as don't dwell on your line of ominous evangelical thoughts.

Don't take it personally kay honestly wala gyud ko kasabot nganong sigeg kag putak diha nga di ko ka relate. Garraabbii ra kaayo ang imong aieerrrports para makuha ang akong attention... and it's kind of flattering in fact.

Maong don't me bradier, don't me..

OnT:


Anybody knew when this jeepney modernization will take effect or even get started. I've reckon this was initiated in the national by Sec Tugade.

[firestarter]

Possible effects and dissents coming from all sectors.

1. Ang kadtong 1 ra ang iyang unit nga jeepney, dili na siya ka operate kay dili na tagaan ug franchise sa LTFRB.
2. Ang affected ani ang Jeepney, Busses and Vans
3. Ang kadtong 15 years up nga mga jeepney which I think majority of them if not all are, ma phase-out or ma retire na.
4. Ang cost sa new jeepney which is eco-friendly, is about 900k to 1.3Million -- kani gyud permi si no. 1 ang affected ani. Kay if i minimum nimo ug 20 units para maka kuha ug franchise, 1 operator or si no. 1 dapat mo loan ug at least 20million pesos para lang maka operate or maka kuhag franchise.

5. This will be somewhat oppressive para ni no. 1, kay this is a loss of income to him.


Intention:

6, in 2015, LTFRB made the plan to intro this policies to limit transport vehicle's age
7. Prevent pollution, reliable and safe for commuting public
8. Affected are jeepneys, buses and vans
9. Implementation of the plan will "make (probably)" the system more coherent, thus less traffic??
10. Upon getting the go signal from the upper and lower house "House Bill 4434" , digong will revoke all existing franchises, thus implementation of the plan (no.1 )
11. Government plans the new routes, not based on suggestions of operators - basically routes are controlled by the governemnt
12. No more single unit operators - minimum ug 20 units to get a franchise, revamp to 40 in 2019.
13. Standardization of driver's salaries, with employment benefits - (I think this is the same with other first world countries) - no more boundary system as what we have now.
14. Salaried drivers will get trainings
15. Replacement jeepneys Electric Motors and Euro 4 - compliant 30kW AC engines. - green eco-friendly and more efficient,
16. Seating capacity will be 26 persons, side entrance, GPS navigation, automated fare collection system
17. Jeepney costs around 900k to 1.3M.


Diri ko naglibog dapit.

In a report by Top Gear Philippines, these modern versions of jeepneys will cost somewhere between P1.2 million and P1.6 million. Meanwhile, the Manila Times estimated the cost to be around P900,000 to P1.3 million. To take out old jeepneys and help drivers have a capital to buy the new ones, Lizada said the DOTr will shoulder the costs of taking them off the road.

Bali ang DOTr will only shoulder the cost of taking the old jeepneys off the road? Basically, silay bahala sa dumping site?
Kaso murag dili mo shoulder ang DOTr or government para sa new jeepneys, basically, padung gyud ni mobalik didto sa mga kwartahan nga operator.. ginansya gihapon ang mga dagkong operator ani.

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The dreary side of this is that if ikaw si single operator in no.1, murag mangita nalang gyud ka ug lain panginabuhi or, you can apply as a salaried driver.

Well, there has to be a common ground ani..

It's a question of, the common good... The common good of the commuting public, versus, the loss of income for the single unit operators or less than 20 unit unit operatos.

Worse comes to worst, it is always the common good which will prevail.

Hence, padung gyud gihapon ni ka phase-out ang 15 year-old jeepneys, vans and busses.

For all we know, basin affected pud puhon ang general public ani by banning old cars. But that's just a thought.

Several transport groups recently staged a nationwide transport strike that caused minor inconvenience to the commuting public. The boycott—organized by jeepney coalitions such as PISTON, Stop and Go Coalition, and No to Jeepney Phase-out Coalition—was held in different parts of the country.

According to one of the leaders of the said group, the rally was aimed at the government’s jeepney modernization program, which they believe is a phase-out scheme for the humble king of Pinoy road.


The Department of Transportation’s (DOTr) program to overhaul the iconic Filipino public transporter has been in the pipeline for quite some time already. While some transport groups are welcome to the changes brought by the modernization program, a few others insist that the old ways must remain unchanged by the times.

Why is this modernization such a big issue, and what are the things you need to know about the planned movement to make the jeepney more attuned to modern times?

What does “jeepney modernization” really mean?

In 2015, the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) unveiled its plan to introduce policies that will impose a strict limit on the age of public transport vehicles.

LTFRB’s Resolution No. 2013-10 states that public vehicles beyond the 15-year-old limit will be decommissioned as part of the DOTr’s massive overhaul of the public transport system.

“A transport system with modern and roadworthy PUVs plying the national roads prevents pollution and ensures a reliable and safe commute for the riding public,” explains former LTFRB Chairman Winston Ginez.

However, jeepneys aren’t the only sector affected by the program; buses and vans will also become subjected to it.

How will the LTFRB implement the jeepney modernization program?

To reorganize the public transportation system, the LTFRB will overhaul the jeepneys from the ground up. Aside from the recall of aging jeepneys due to their environmental effects and poor passenger safety standards, there are also other measures that the board wants to implement to make the system more coherent.

Aiming to make public transport routes more efficient and therefore cause less traffic, House Bill 4434 and Senate Bill 1284 will implement the “route rationalization.”

Once it gets the green light from both the House and Senate and gets approved by President Rodrigo Duterte, the LTFRB will revoke all existing line franchises and issue new ones with better and more sensible routes.

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From the DOTr Facebook page
The government will be the one responsible in the planning of new routes, not based on suggestions of operators.

Apart from the route rationalization, single unit operators will also be prohibited from applying for new franchises.

Much like what the government did with taxis a few years back, only operators with a minimum of 20 jeepneys under its fleet will be able to apply for a new franchise. By 2019, the minimum will be bumped up to 40 units.

The modernization of jeepneys will also entail the standardization of drivers’ salaries. In the old days, operators had to use the boundary system, which starts a reckless competition among drivers just to reach their quota.

From the DOTr Facebook page
From the DOTr Facebook page
Under the new system, drivers will be given regular salaries with corresponding employment benefits. Salaried drivers will also receive adequate training to become more responsible in plying the public roads.

Will the jeepney be phased out, just like what transport groups claim?

In a statement, the No to Jeepney Phase-out Coalition said that the words “modernization,” “route rationalization,” and “other proponents of the Traffic Emergency Power being pushed in the Congress” are just words being used to sugarcoat the phaseout of jeepneys.

However, LTFRB spokesperson Atty. Aileen Lizada said that the program only aims to “level up the type of jeepneys we have on the road.”

“Do not believe leaders who say that they will be totally taken out of the road. That is not true. We do not have a phaseout for jeepneys,” Lizada said. The replacement units, which is more efficient and environmentally friendlier, will use electric motors and Euro 4-compliant 30kW AC engines. In addition, the modernized jeeps will have features like a seating capacity of up to 26 persons, side entrance, GPS navigation, and automated fare collection system.

In a report by Top Gear Philippines, these modern versions of jeepneys will cost somewhere between P1.2 million and P1.6 million. Meanwhile, the Manila Times estimated the cost to be around P900,000 to P1.3 million. To take out old jeepneys and help drivers have a capital to buy the new ones, Lizada said the DOTr will shoulder the costs of taking them off the road.

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[©harlie M©]

IMO hinay.hinayon nag tang.tang mga jeepney pra mka move on na ang transport system sa pinas to a more better modernize system nyahahah

if naa pana mga jeepney sa highly industrialized cities k mag lisod ug progress ang transport system sa pinas....

if naa pana mga jeepney sa dalan ang mga commuters will always have a choice to go with jeepneys so if imo e introduce and mga public bus, it will just add to the congestion of the road...unless if you get rid of the jeepneys, regulate/control taxi's and make way for buses to use the roads then you will see a big relief sa congestion sa mga dalan...then eventually MRT to follow

just imagine a city where majority of public transport is with buses, taxis and MRTs......been there ug pwerting nindota

[firestarter]

IMO hinay.hinayon nag tang.tang mga jeepney pra mka move on na ang transport system sa pinas to a more better modernize system nyahahah

if naa pana mga jeepney sa highly industrialized cities k mag lisod ug progress ang transport system sa pinas....

if naa pana mga jeepney sa dalan ang mga commuters will always have a choice to go with jeepneys so if imo e introduce and mga public bus, it will just add to the congestion of the road...unless if you get rid of the jeepneys, regulate/control taxi's and make way for buses to use the roads then you will see a big relief sa congestion sa mga dalan...then eventually MRT to follow

just imagine a city where majority of public transport is with buses, taxis and MRTs......been there ug pwerting nindota

Exactly..

It's about time we do some major changes to the transport system diri sa Philippines.

[©harlie M©]

of course ma apektohan jud diri ang mga negosyo sa mga jeepney operators ug mga jeepney drivers....pero kana cya k short term problems rana....ebutang lng nato nga wala.on na ang trabaho as jeepney drivers...naay daghan implications ani pero ako lng e point out ang positive....so wala nay option ang mga tao na low education level nga mag jeepney driver na lng, so naay tendency nga maningkamot clag skwela pra mka trabaho cla sa industry....ang akong point is that, if wala.on nmo ang possibility nga ang mga tambay naay means of income, mka huna2x ni cla nga mo skwela na lng ug tarong by any means, imbis nga mag jeepney driver...

k naa man gud mga notion nga if dli ka skwela or mag tambay k maau pa mag jeepney driver or tricycle driver na lng k at least naay income...so ang mga batan.on dli cla ma motivate mo skwela ug tarong to find a better means of income k naa man cla option nga mag jeepney driver na lng.....so ang long term effect ani k dli sa mga jeepney drivers kung dli sa ila mga anak, para ilang mga anak ma motivate mo skwela tarong pra naay mas maau nga trabaho ig homan skwela

kani pag phase out sa mga jeepney will take generations(at least 2 IMO) k dako man ang affected area sa society....naa ko na balita.an sa una about sa retraining sa mga affected jeepney drivers nga naa clay income for the meantime pero ambot krn unsa nay balita ato.

[21guns]

Aussie maker of solar jeep offers free jeepney and tricycle to operators willing to embrace the government's energy modernization program. Free na daw kinsa pamang utoka nga dili lubog mo babag ani. true kaha ni?

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/natio...ups/ar-BByTp2e