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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Sorry I still fail to see the connection of the Currency falling or rising with regards to Duterte's rise in power.
    The Stock Market is not tied to the Presidency if that is what you are trying to imply. Sorry sir, dili ingon ana ka taas ang akong naabtan para ma gets ang imong gusto ipasabot.

    If you are trying to lay out or prove something, don't give hints like what you are doing now. Show your proof or preponderate evidences.



    Well, it's your personal opinion naman bro and lisod naman na lalison kay mao naman sulod sa imong head.
    But if you are trying to say that the Lawyer Aguirre is incompetent, then kinsa naman lang atong ibutang diha?

    Food for thought:



    Dili nalang manghire ug full scholar at San Beda College graduating Magna Cum Laude with a BA and finished law school as valedictorian and Cum Laude of Class 1971. ---

    Hence, if you define incompetence is epitomized by Aguirre, then your standard of competence is way beyond this mother earth can give.
    1. If you think we are talking about the stock market then let us stop discussing the reasons why I do not like his economic policies. Currency protectionism is very very different. I am not giving hints, you are too lazy to research. Proof is all there, you just refuse to search. What you give instead are links to questionable blog sites who do not have any idea what they are talking about (TPP thinks LP owns the majority, LOL)

    2. Of course that is my opinion. Nangutana kag reasons why I dont like Duterte, for sure ako answer ana kay opinion diba?

    "Hence, if you define incompetence is epitomized by Aguirre, then your standard of competence is way beyond this mother earth can give. " Wow, for you to say that Aguirre is the best and the brightest indicates you think so low of our countrymen. Academic achievements don't mean much in the real world. In fact, tan.awa ang process sa CA. Very small portion ra ang academic history. Im sure even you know that.

    3. You seem to be under the impression that our lawmakers are capable. Time and time again they have proven themselves to be rubber stamps or goons for hire. A lot of them do not even understand basic economics- after all, you do not need to be smart to be elected as a congressman.

    Thank you for that breakdown. Can you give a breakdown for maintenance and other operating expenses? For the life of me wala jud. I tried searching for specifics, pero wala jud. Maybe dili covered sa FOI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post

    Gipili niya to thwart the Liberal Party's Plan B, in unseating Duterte and thereby the ascension of another yellow President.

    I'm not defending Mark Villar, pero if you read his relatively short resume. He was a representative of Las Pinas and held executive positions in his family's real estate businesses. He might NOT be the right person for you, but he is from the standpoint of cementing digong's stay in the Presidency. Let's put a hold on Villar's appointment, I may not agree with it. But I have to agree on Duterte's choice on this one. If it is to defeat a greater evil.




    This is your personal opinion and many people might agree or disagree with you on this one. Personally, I'd say, who are you to say how he should act? But that's my personal opinion. None of it matters.




    Sir, you might have missed it but Thinking Pinoy actually mentioned regarding Congress.. Please read again.

    I did not miss it. I said they completely ignored the fact that most LP congressmen have already jumped ship. Again, he is just like Pnoy diay if in.ana na style. Exchanging favors for votes. Lol, let's put a hold on it kay you cant defend such appointment?

    Change is coming naman kaha?

  3. #13283
    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    Not majority sir. I dont know asa ka gikan ana na conclusion pero dili majority.

    Again, wa ko niingun na nindut ang LP. Samukan ko nila. Ni point out raman ko na dili ko ganahan sa direction sa budget KARUN, i.e., 2017 budget.

    Dili fishy ang decrease. Makita man sa DBM asa niadto ang excess. If you bother to check. Why do you keep referring back to the past admin? Move on na ui. We are talking about the present admin naman. Stop comparing the two kay na establish naman natu na wala tu'y ayo.

    You call 24% decrease in HEALTH (basic need) and a 18% decrease in a social service spending as reasonable, pero dili nimo i.question ang 600% unidentifiable line item increase as unreasonable? Unsa na imo, blind trust in the senate and in the president? Kay if yes. we have nothing further to discuss.
    Limited raman kaau ka ug pag tan.aw sir or ng pa blind2 ra jud ka. Mao ganing daog si digong ug pilde ang mga oligarchs nga LP ky kabalo ka unsai rason? Palpak sila na kitang katag nila sa mga tao. Ka klaro anang nga majority


    Asa man diay ka mu refer sir. Tanan man gyud i refer sa past results bisan ug exam or statistics pana..asa man pmn diay ta mka compara, sa future?..


    You should be the one reading sir ky ikaw may ng reklamo. Naa dri gbutang ang tanan budget allocation i think: http://www.dbm.gov.ph/
    Ni ingon pa gani ka ganina na sa imong post nga it could be good or bad.


    600% increase lge sa budget pero tan.awa kung pila ang total ug para asa ang budget, i compare nimo sa mga gi pang decrease karon nga budget gamay ra kaau na ug impact. Mao nay nka problemas mga tao kita ug saup gamay palag daun wa pa gani kabalo sa unsai rason. PCSO palang daan dako na kaau ug chance nga ma hunong ang scandal ug corruption pinaagi sa pag allocate sa karon na budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    1. If you think we are talking about the stock market then let us stop discussing the reasons why I do not like his economic policies. Currency protectionism is very very different. I am not giving hints, you are too lazy to research. Proof is all there, you just refuse to search. What you give instead are links to questionable blog sites who do not have any idea what they are talking about (TPP thinks LP owns the majority, LOL)

    2. Of course that is my opinion. Nangutana kag reasons why I dont like Duterte, for sure ako answer ana kay opinion diba?

    "Hence, if you define incompetence is epitomized by Aguirre, then your standard of competence is way beyond this mother earth can give. " Wow, for you to say that Aguirre is the best and the brightest indicates you think so low of our countrymen. Academic achievements don't mean much in the real world. In fact, tan.awa ang process sa CA. Very small portion ra ang academic history. Im sure even you know that.

    3. You seem to be under the impression that our lawmakers are capable. Time and time again they have proven themselves to be rubber stamps or goons for hire. A lot of them do not even understand basic economics- after all, you do not need to be smart to be elected as a congressman.

    Thank you for that breakdown. Can you give a breakdown for maintenance and other operating expenses? For the life of me wala jud. I tried searching for specifics, pero wala jud. Maybe dili covered sa FOI?
    OT:

    If you keep talking like this hiding in your own jargon, expect that nobody will understand you, much less listen to you.

    Let's leave no. 1, as it is. Since, dili man ka ganahan mo sulti unsa na. I'm not that lazy, I just don't like to satisfy people I leave them to their own demise.. maybe somebody here is lazy though.

    No. 2. DONE

    3. Ikaw na ang capable bro.. Ikaw na... Promisee.. Ikawwww naaaaa...

    One question though, if it happens, nga ikaw ang gi appoint ni digong sa DPWH as Secretary, would you have accepted it?

    Breakdown?

    Break it down.. woo0ho0o0o... wo0o0o0oo0o0o.. come on.. collaborate and listen.. we got a brand new invention.. woo0o0o0oho0o0o0..

    Break it down.. tskeketskethechek...

    Klaro kaayong wa mag basa..

    http://www.manilatimes.net/duterte-s...r-2017/280159/


    President Rodrigo Duterte sought a tenfold increase in the budget of the Office of the President (OP) to P20 billion. Of this amount, P19.3 billion will go to maintenance and other operating expenses, while P747 million will be for personnel services. Capital outlay is just at P660,000.

    Secretary Benjamin Diokno of the Department of Budget and Management attributed the rise to the country’s hosting of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) meetings next year, which will cost P15 billion.

    “We are hosting the golden anniversary of Asean which is at P15 billion. This is really under the OP. Once the budget is approved, this amount will be disbursed to various agencies that will need the money for the Asean hosting,” Diokno told reporters after submitting the Duterte administration’s maiden budget proposal.

    Also contributing to the increase was Duterte’s Executive Order (EO) No. 1 which placed 12 agencies under the supervision of a top aide, Cabinet Secretary Leoncio “Jun” Evasco Jr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    I did not miss it. I said they completely ignored the fact that most LP congressmen have already jumped ship. Again, he is just like Pnoy diay if in.ana na style. Exchanging favors for votes. Lol, let's put a hold on it kay you cant defend such appointment?

    Change is coming naman kaha?

    Brod, basin nalimot ka nga LP gihapon na sila bisan ni Jumpship pana sila?

    Please note that the article was written while the election was still on-going.. Again you might have missed it..

    You want defense? .. ... --- try this, thwarting LP's Plan B, thereby defeating a greater evil??

    Greater Evil?? --> Ascension of a YeLLOW President. eng eng eng.

    Basa Lage,,. murag ka duha nana nako gitubag ba.. Gitagaan pa gyud ug link.. and I even mentioned it nga for me..

    TP's reasoning on the appointment of Villar is a compelling argument.. Maong bro, I would have to agree with TP on that one.

    I don't know about change is coming.. Do you?
    Last edited by firestarter; 02-20-2017 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RainRiku View Post
    Limited raman kaau ka ug pag tan.aw sir or ng pa blind2 ra jud ka. Mao ganing daog si digong ug pilde ang mga oligarchs nga LP ky kabalo ka unsai rason? Palpak sila na kitang katag nila sa mga tao. Ka klaro anang nga majority


    Asa man diay ka mu refer sir. Tanan man gyud i refer sa past results bisan ug exam or statistics pana..asa man pmn diay ta mka compara, sa future?..


    You should be the one reading sir ky ikaw may ng reklamo. Naa dri gbutang ang tanan budget allocation i think: http://www.dbm.gov.ph/
    Ni ingon pa gani ka ganina na sa imong post nga it could be good or bad.


    600% increase lge sa budget pero tan.awa kung pila ang total ug para asa ang budget, i compare nimo sa mga gi pang decrease karon nga budget gamay ra kaau na ug impact. Mao nay nka problemas mga tao kita ug saup gamay palag daun wa pa gani kabalo sa unsai rason. PCSO palang daan dako na kaau ug chance nga ma hunong ang scandal ug corruption pinaagi sa pag allocate sa karon na budget.
    1. Lol, lahi imo dictionary na gamit sir. Kaming mga normal na tao kay lahi amo definition sa majority. I.total kuno tanan number of voters, unya i.compare sa votes niya. Unya tan.awa kung masulod ba sa definition sa majority.

    2. Naa ngara ang budget allocation pero wala g.expand ang exact use. Under FOI i.expand na dapat. But since EO pa ang FOI, dili siya required mu follow. Gets?

    3. Dili nimo i.compare sa past admin kay sobra ka way ayo ang past admin. Gamay lang improvement from them kay very big improvement nana relatively. You are so easy to please.

    4. Gamay ang impact sa increase? Kung ibutang na nimo sa education ug i.gasto ug tarung kay isa na ka generation ang matabangan nimo. Wa ka kasabot noh na limited atu budget? Wa gani ka kibaw exactly asa na siya padung pero imo na g.defend. Ka blind gud nimo sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    OT:

    If you keep talking like this hiding in your own jargon, expect that nobody will understand you, much less listen to you.

    Let's leave no. 1, as it is. Since, dili man ka ganahan mo sulti unsa na. I'm not that lazy, I just don't like to satisfy people I leave them to their own demise.. maybe somebody here is lazy though.

    No. 2. DONE

    3. Ikaw na ang capable bro.. Ikaw na... Promisee.. Ikawwww naaaaa...

    Breakdown?

    Break it down.. woo0ho0o0o... wo0o0o0oo0o0o.. come on.. collaborate and listen.. we got a brand new invention.. woo0o0o0oho0o0o0..

    Break it down.. tskeketskethechek...

    - - - Updated - - -



    Brod, basin nalimot ka nga LP gihapon na sila bisan ni Jumpship pana sila?

    You want defense? .. ... --- try this, thwarting LP's Plan B, thereby defeating a greater evil??

    Greater Evil?? --> Ascension of a YeLLOW President. eng eng eng.

    Basa Lage,,. murag ka duha nana nako gitubag ba.. Gitagaan pa gyud ug link.. and I even mentioned it nga for me..

    TP's reasoning on the appointment of Villar is a compelling argument.. Maong bro, I would have to agree with TP on that one.



    OT: Hahaha.. How do you defend ones hypocrisy and ignorance, much less ones ideals.

    I don't know about change is coming.. Do you?
    Hahaha see, leave it as it is nalang lagi. Nigawas ang true colors. hehe. Scrap logic/common sense out of the equation and use emotion (and a little bit of TPP) to argue. Mao nang daghan nanaghan na trolls ani na site. If anti duterte pa ang nag reply ug ing.ana, automatic muted dayun sila. Pero since pro ka, padayun lang.

    My own jargon? Kasayun ra i.google ana tanan ui. Hai pinoy.

    Breakdown nana for you? Easily pleased pud diay ka. Anywhere in the Mocha Uson/TP blogs you ready daily kakita kag breakdown anang maintenance expenses?

  7. #13287
    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Please note that the article was written while the election was still on-going.. Again you might have missed it..

    You want defense? .. ... --- try this, thwarting LP's Plan B, thereby defeating a greater evil??

    Greater Evil?? --> Ascension of a YeLLOW President. eng eng eng.

    Basa Lage,,. murag ka duha nana nako gitubag ba.. Gitagaan pa gyud ug link.. and I even mentioned it nga for me..

    TP's reasoning on the appointment of Villar is a compelling argument.. Maong bro, I would have to agree with TP on that one.

    I don't know about change is coming.. Do you?
    Lol, LP pa sila? FYI sir before LP came into power dili na sila LP. Meaning, musunod sila sa whoever holds the most power. In simpler JARGON (kay basin maglibog ka), balimbing sila. Article was made before the election man diay, nganong imo paman nang gi.link ngari na outdated naman diay siya. Doesnt make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    1. Lol, lahi imo dictionary na gamit sir. Kaming mga normal na tao kay lahi amo definition sa majority. I.total kuno tanan number of voters, unya i.compare sa votes niya. Unya tan.awa kung masulod ba sa definition sa majority.

    2. Naa ngara ang budget allocation pero wala g.expand ang exact use. Under FOI i.expand na dapat. But since EO pa ang FOI, dili siya required mu follow. Gets?

    3. Dili nimo i.compare sa past admin kay sobra ka way ayo ang past admin. Gamay lang improvement from them kay very big improvement nana relatively. You are so easy to please.

    4. Gamay ang impact sa increase? Kung ibutang na nimo sa education ug i.gasto ug tarung kay isa na ka generation ang matabangan nimo. Wa ka kasabot noh na limited atu budget? Wa gani ka kibaw exactly asa na siya padung pero imo na g.defend. Ka blind gud nimo sir.
    1. So ang imong definition sa majority ky base sa imong experience? Or basin ikaw si SWS survey ky mutou na jud ko nimo..sounds amazing!
    2. So that's why you have to wait to be implemented before opening your mouth dba? wait for the results
    3. So you are what we called CoolKids, Hipster ky reklamo man ka bisan kinsay nag lingkod sa wa pay klarong rason. Ky as if naay mas maau nga ning dagan niya nga presidente last year. Kinsa man diay imo manok last election?
    4. Problemado man kaau ka ana sir? wa pa gani result aw aw na daun ka..haha..wa gani ka kibaw asa na siya padung pero imo na g reklamo. Ka blind gud nimo sir. Bisan ganing mga Senate wla ning reklamo.. ikaw na noun..xD

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    Tinambanon nato ang breakdown sir ha.


    Budget 20Bilyon

    19.3 Bilyon ang sa Maintenance and other opex <-- take note sir.. Naa pani breakdown sa ubos sa article kung imong gibasa.

    747 Milyon -- personnel services.

    equals = 20Bilyon

    Breakdown sa 19.3 Bilyon

    15Bilyon para sa Asean Golden Anniversay Hosting.

    “We are hosting the golden anniversary of Asean which is at P15 billion. This is really under the OP. Once the budget is approved, this amount will be disbursed to various agencies that will need the money for the Asean hosting,” Diokno told reporters after submitting the Duterte administration’s maiden budget proposal.
    Pila nalang na bilin sir?


    4.3 Bilyon nalang? Ang 2016 nga budget sa OP pila gani? 2.86 Bilyon.. Basically, naa ray increase of 1.44Bilyon sa 2017 budget sa OP.

    You want another breakdown?

    Basaha lage.. porbida ...

    THE DUTERTE administration on Monday asked Congress for a P3.35-trillion national budget for 2017, up by 12 percent from this year’s outlay, with the increase going to the country’s hosting of next year’s Asean meetings and rice subsidies for the poor.

    President Rodrigo Duterte sought a tenfold increase in the budget of the Office of the President (OP) to P20 billion. Of this amount, P19.3 billion will go to maintenance and other operating expenses, while P747 million will be for personnel services. Capital outlay is just at P660,000.

    Secretary Benjamin Diokno of the Department of Budget and Management attributed the rise to the country’s hosting of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) meetings next year, which will cost P15 billion.

    “We are hosting the golden anniversary of Asean which is at P15 billion. This is really under the OP. Once the budget is approved, this amount will be disbursed to various agencies that will need the money for the Asean hosting,” Diokno told reporters after submitting the Duterte administration’s maiden budget proposal.

    Also contributing to the increase was Duterte’s Executive Order (EO) No. 1 which placed 12 agencies under the supervision of a top aide, Cabinet Secretary Leoncio “Jun” Evasco Jr.

    Pantawid budget hiked
    The Duterte administration also hiked the budget for the conditional cash transfer or Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program, to P78.7 billion in 2017 from P62 billion this year, to include rice subsidies for the poor as promised by the President during the campaign.

    This was included under the proposed P129.9-billion budget of the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) submitted to Congress.

    Of the P78.7 billion, P23.4 billion will be spent for rice allowances of three million CCT households. Eligible households will be given 20 kilos of rice monthly for 12 months starting 2017.

    There are at least 4.62 million families under the program.

    “There are cases where there are two beneficiary families in the same household. This [rice subsidy]is 20 kilos per household times 12 [months]. This is not a one to one correspondence. Every beneficiary [family]will be given rice subsidy,” Diokno said.

    Beneficiaries get cash incentives provided they comply with the following conditions: children should be present in school 85 percent of the time and family members should undergo regular medical check-ups and attend family development sessions.

    The DSWD will maintain a Sustainable Livelihood Program involving micro-enterprise development and employment facilitation for half a million families.

    Housing
    Affordable housing for the poor will have P15.4-billion budget.

    Of this amount, P12.6 billion will go to the National Housing Authority for socialized housing, particularly the resettlement of informal settlers from danger zones and housing assistance for calamity victims.

    A P7.3-billion allocation was proposed for the Department of Transportation, for the resettlement of informal settlers to be affected by the North to South Railway Project.

    “This shows our commitment to the policy of no demolition without relocation to provide support to those who will be displaced by our efforts to ramp up transportation projects,” President Duterte said in his budget message.

    Military, police
    The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) meanwhile sought a P130.6-billion budget for next year, 15 percent higher than this year’s.

    “This will be used to intensify the AFP’s counter-terrorism efforts and to protect our borders,” Duterte said.
    The Revised AFP Modernization Program in particular will get P25 billion to acquire more weapons and equipment for soldiers.

    The Philippine National Police (PNP) sought P110.4 billion, higher by 24.6 percent than this year’s budget.

    The PNP plans to hire 10,000 additional police officers and to fund its “capability enhancement program.”

    “My government will double or even triple its efforts to bring drug pushers and crime syndicates behind bars as well as to put a stop to terrorism,” the President said in his budget message.

    Diokno also said there would be a budget for new 550-bed hospitals and rehabilitation centers for 2017, with each center costing P700 million.

    The President promised to increase the salaries of policemen, soldiers, and other uniformed personnel.
    “We will pursue a law that increases the base pay of uniformed personnel [and]reforms the pension system of retirees,” said Duterte in his budget message.

    Duterte seeks P3.35T budget for 2017 - The Manila Times Online
    But then again, mobalik na pud lage ko..

    Nganong gi approved ni sa Plenary?


    MANILA, Philippines – The Senate on Monday, November 28, approved on 3rd and final reading the proposed P3.35 trillion national budget for 2017 – the quickest it had done so in recent years.

    The proposed budget – which lawmakers said was crafted to deliver better social services – got 20 affirmative votes, no negative vote, and no abstention.

    Sen. Loren Legarda
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    1. Lol, lahi imo dictionary na gamit sir. Kaming mga normal na tao kay lahi amo definition sa majority. I.total kuno tanan number of voters, unya i.compare sa votes niya. Unya tan.awa kung masulod ba sa definition sa majority.

    2. Naa ngara ang budget allocation pero wala g.expand ang exact use. Under FOI i.expand na dapat. But since EO pa ang FOI, dili siya required mu follow. Gets?

    3. Dili nimo i.compare sa past admin kay sobra ka way ayo ang past admin. Gamay lang improvement from them kay very big improvement nana relatively. You are so easy to please.

    4. Gamay ang impact sa increase? Kung ibutang na nimo sa education ug i.gasto ug tarung kay isa na ka generation ang matabangan nimo. Wa ka kasabot noh na limited atu budget? Wa gani ka kibaw exactly asa na siya padung pero imo na g.defend. Ka blind gud nimo sir.

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    Hahaha see, leave it as it is nalang lagi. Nigawas ang true colors. hehe. Scrap logic/common sense out of the equation and use emotion (and a little bit of TPP) to argue. Mao nang daghan nanaghan na trolls ani na site. If anti duterte pa ang nag reply ug ing.ana, automatic muted dayun sila. Pero since pro ka, padayun lang.

    My own jargon? Kasayun ra i.google ana tanan ui. Hai pinoy.

    Breakdown nana for you? Easily pleased pud diay ka. Anywhere in the Mocha Uson/TP blogs you ready daily kakita kag breakdown anang maintenance expenses?
    Sir Sir Sir.. You are beyond redemption sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    Lol, LP pa sila? FYI sir before LP came into power dili na sila LP. Meaning, musunod sila sa whoever holds the most power. In simpler JARGON (kay basin maglibog ka), balimbing sila. Article was made before the election man diay, nganong imo paman nang gi.link ngari na outdated naman diay siya. Doesnt make sense.
    Wala gyud ka kasabot sa tinuod lang.. promise.. BEFORE ELECTION ? --- BAsaha lageg balik.. tsk..

    While the Election was on-going.. haayysss...

    Ang ako pasabot brod, just like any democracy naa tay Freedom of Speech.. Arguments are settled through discussions..
    As what I've said, I found TP's argument on the appointment of Villar compelling, hence, ni tuo ko nga mao nay rason ni digong.

    That is my own personal opinion.. However, it's not the same as yours .. then you can go to hell..

    What true colors you talking about?? I was always have and always had been pro-digong. ikaw tingale ... Balimbing. pangutan-an kag pro or anti.. Dili gani ka ka decide if asa ka...


    hahahaha luoya.

    Pero taas man kaayo ang imong standard sa "competence ug best and brightest", ikaw nalang ang atong ibutang diha sa DPWH sir? Ok ra nimo?
    Last edited by firestarter; 02-20-2017 at 03:26 PM.

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