Flour Daniel Cebu

[shryock]

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As what i've learned from past HR Managers and GM:

In the engineering industry, people always come and go.
Its the footprints you leave behind, the connections you made, and the skills that you gained that matters.
As long as you don't burn bridges, you can always move forward.

[tsunade]

Atleast confident gehapon ka to say YES. I'm so proud of you

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Ganahan ko maminaw sa imo feedback bro once ma tokhang napud ka. I'm not wishing for that to happen to you but I think murag confident man pud ka nga dili. You got all the confidence in the world. Just like shryock, I'm so proud for both of you

again andam nako ana ako nanag gehonahona sa pagpangapply palang. morag ge ni solong sa gubat nga ga expect og naay lechon sa onahan lol

ppl move on na, walay perfect nga company, walay perfect nga system, walay perfect nga governo pag mata namo

again, move on na guys

[ruckus01]

wew..kinsa man wala ka move on bro.hehe
It does not mean nga wala me ka move on we're just entitle pud sa among opinion just like you.
Impact I'm so thankful sa Fluor nga ila ko gi hire kay daghan ayo ko na gain nga skills sa kani nga company.
Pero in the other side thankful pud nga na hawa ko kay kung dili wala ko karon sa company nga ako gi dream before Fluor.
Considering Fluor as #1 company maybe yes for others but for me its a big NO. And that's my opinion..cheers!!..

again andam nako ana ako nanag gehonahona sa pagpangapply palang. morag ge ni solong sa gubat nga ga expect og naay lechon sa onahan lol

ppl move on na, walay perfect nga company, walay perfect nga system, walay perfect nga governo pag mata namo

again, move on na guys

[djao99]

again andam nako ana ako nanag gehonahona sa pagpangapply palang. morag ge ni solong sa gubat nga ga expect og naay lechon sa onahan lol

ppl move on na, walay perfect nga company, walay perfect nga system, walay perfect nga governo pag mata namo

again, move on na guys

Flour Cebu is indeed not perfect. It does not pay overtime, lisud mu regular and has the worst employee retention. The whole general public must know. No cover ups whatsoever, move ons, pandaot etc. Just the whole truth that ang readers sa istorya.net must know. Thats all...

[Scott Bernard]

Kahinumdom diay ko, kapoy napod ug backread...

Ang Fluor walay bayad2x ug overtime, okay ra kay basta makit an lang sa management nga dedicated ka sa work, bisan walay bayad...

Then after pila ka weeks, nang futbol na diay...

[shryock]

Flour Cebu is indeed not perfect. It does not pay overtime, lisud mu regular and has the worst employee retention. The whole general public must know. No cover ups whatsoever, move ons, pandaot etc. Just the whole truth that ang readers sa istorya.net must know. Thats all...

base sa imung logic, which is to tell the whole truth:

Wala bayad ang overtime if ang tao mismo nag stay sa office then nag extend work na walay pananghid.
A member cannot declare overtime by himself. There's a due process to follow.

Naay bayad ang overtime if giprocess sa saktong channels and the pay have a range of 1.3 to 2.69 multiplier.
The number of overtime hours varies from project to project.
The multiplier varies for every employment status.

If a member declared it themselves that they deserve to be payed overtime but they did not go through the process of overtime approval, of course there's no pay.
When they were not paid, what do they do? They rant.
It's like asking to be payed even if the other party does not acknowledge it.

The Company has been very lenient on the overtime approval.
Even if you apply after you rendered overtime, the immediate supervisor would still likely to sign it if the conditions are met.
So there's really no excuse not to get paid.

Unless if the project has no provision for overtime but the member persist to get paid for his "efforts".
Knowing this, the member should have not extended at all.
There's the problem right there.

Bottomline:
No approval, no pay
This is not even a Fluor exclusive rule.
It is a common rule applied by many companies.

[Scott Bernard]

^^ This one, I do agree...

So if mo overtime unya walay proper approval, unya dili magpa bayad ug OT... ahhmm.. dili na problema sa management.

Spoiler! 

[djao99]

base sa imung logic, which is to tell the whole truth:

Wala bayad ang overtime if ang tao mismo nag stay sa office then nag extend work na walay pananghid.
A member cannot declare overtime by himself. There's a due process to follow.

Naay bayad ang overtime if giprocess sa saktong channels and the pay have a range of 1.3 to 2.69 multiplier.
The number of overtime hours varies from project to project.
The multiplier varies for every employment status.

If a member declared it themselves that they deserve to be payed overtime but they did not go through the process of overtime approval, of course there's no pay.
When they were not paid, what do they do? They rant.
It's like asking to be payed even if the other party does not acknowledge it.

The Company has been very lenient on the overtime approval.
Even if you apply after you rendered overtime, the immediate supervisor would still likely to sign it if the conditions are met.
So there's really no excuse not to get paid.

Unless if the project has no provision for overtime but the member persist to get paid for his "efforts".
Knowing this, the member should have not extended at all.
There's the problem right there.

Bottomline:
No approval, no pay
This is not even a Fluor exclusive rule.
It is a common rule applied by many companies.

boy, the non payment of overtime disaster in fluor happend already everybody knows that. What is there to explain?

[shryock]

boy, the non payment of overtime disaster in fluor happend already everybody knows that. What is there to explain?

Up to you.
You keep bringing it up as the "whole truth" but its only one sided.

[djao99]

Up to you.
You keep bringing it up as the "whole truth" but its only one sided.

your explaination is contrary to labor laws. Are you sure your explaination is how fluor will gonna explain to authorities officially?
Non payment of overtime of employees doing substancial work and breaking backs until midnight is justified by such company policy.

Theres a principle in labor law that there should equal pay for equal work. That should be above any company policy.