All About Current Admin of Duterte

[BrokenDreamer]

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like i said di pa jud na ma confirm..as per the news ni ingon ra sila nga naay anonymous tip gkan sa unknown ex-general. so ako pa nila mas maau ipa investigate nila ang nag hatag ug tip.

As per the news ila na gi-confirm na indeed naa. Unya ila basis ra kay katung one incident of a korean peddling drugs.

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I'm actually not afraid to admit that I'm having some doubts with Duterte now, I was a hardcore supporter before. The main reason that put me off is actually how other supporters behave, but that's purely based on my opinion. One of the reasons for my doubts is as to how messy and cluttered the current admin is right now. In my opinion, there's no uniformity.

Ana gyud na bro, mura rag nanguyab.. if dili sugton ma hugno..

Basin taas pud kaayo imong expectations gi set para sa tiguwang.

Time and again it is proven that every after election the jubilation is so high, that after awhile it will come down.
A house divided will not stand..

Before nimo ma limpyo entirely ang tibuok balay, tanggalon ang tanan abog2x, ug mga hugaw, imo usang ipang irog tanan butang, bukekeon, lugiton ug uyogon. Para matangtang ang tanang mga abog, hugaw ug mga walay gamit.


Ang ako ra ani...

Sa tanan Presidente akong naagian ug nabotaran ug namatngunan kani ra nga Presidente ang tarong2x.

I compare nimo ni Cory, Erap, Gloria, Noynoy, Ramos... Ambot lang...

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Yo guys. Thoughts on this one? "Duterte calls ex-Colombian president an ‘idiot’ for drug war ‘lecture’"

Duterte calls ex-Colombian president 'idiot' for 'lecturing' him on drug war

I know we can't have a perfect leader but being decent/diplomat the way you talk is really not that hard samot na ug president ka.

Kini ra gyud akong masulti bahin ana:

Dili man gyud unta ni lisud himoon sa usa ka normal nga presidenti. Pero kun abnormal (i.e., na-diagnosed og narcissistic disorder), lisud gyud na kaayo para niya. Kay ang mga tawo nga dunay narcissus syndrome, DILI gayod makadawat nga nasayop o napakyas sila. Bisan pag mamalikas, mamasangil, mag-imbento og mga istorya, basta dili lang sila ang matulisok tungod sa ila mismong sayop, buhaton na nila.

Dili man gyud ko motuo anang psychiatric disorder sa atong presidenti. Apan base sa iyang mga reactions sa mga criticism bahin sa iya ug sa iyang administration, sa pagka-karon murag makatuo na ko.

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Kini ra gyud akong masulti bahin ana:

Dili man gyud unta ni lisud himoon sa usa ka normal nga presidenti. Pero kun abnormal (i.e., na-diagnosed og narcissistic disorder), lisud gyud na kaayo para niya. Kay ang mga tawo nga dunay narcissus syndrome, DILI gayod makadawat nga nasayop o napakyas sila.

Dili man gyud ko motuo anang psychiatric disorder sa atong presidenti. Apan base sa iyang mga reactions sa mga criticism bahin sa iya ug sa iyang administration, sa pagka-karon murag makatuo na ko.

Aw nigawas na gyud ang imong tinuod balhibo bradier... Simang permi..

Yanong Batikon alert.


Basin ma ban na pud ka bradier.

[BrokenDreamer]

Sir, 1. your argument is whether or not naay Korean Mafia sa Cebu or Manila?

Or 2, Whether or not the Korean Mafia is involved in the killing of that Korean in Camp Crame?

If all goes down to purely evidence.. by law tingale...

1. Wala tingale, since, naa may tingale - it creates doubt as to the veracity of the information. Hence, the need for further investigation.

Now, let's divert our attention from the purely evidentiary documents, and explore through the unknown variables.

Is there a possibility of a Korean Mafia operating here in Cebu or in Manila or in the Philippines?

Then I personally would say there is, that possibility. If you ask me for evidence, then I will have to go full Delima on you.

There is a Korean Mafia operating in the Philippines, but I don't have evidence of it yet.

2. Korean Mafia involved in the killing of that Korean in Camp Crame?

Again wala tingale, but since, there is that notion coming from the grape vine. It maybe worth taking a look into.

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Now about Duterte's list...

I have answered it already before.. but since, naa man kahay mga sayop2x, it does not preclude the fact that that list however, contaminated it is, contains names who where in fact involved in the illegal drug trade.

However, when you associate it with what happens now, korean mafia and such.. and discredit the list because there is none.

The is an entirely sweeping statement, which tries to discredit everything stated by other witnesses.
You cannot bring down the whole house because termites are eating away it's foundations.

What you do is, you eliminate the termites and strengthen back its foundation.

I do not believe there is a Korean mafia here yet, unless you can prove me wrong using evidence. I believe na internal cleansing ang solution. Ang nahitabo man gud kay gihimo ra ug scapegoat sa government ang alleged and doubtful existence ana na organization. I would have been fine if Duterte stopped with katung apology to S. Korea and the filing of charges against the police, but gipakapinan paman gud niya, mura na nuon ug nanghugas siyag kamot.

Sir if we are talking about possibilities raman diay and not probabilities (based on evidence jud mismo) then anything can be assumed. Pwede ta mu-assume na every time naay crime mahitabo ngari mafia ang sad-an. After all, possible man jud diba? even if dili probable?

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"Naa man kaha'y sayup" - Dont take my word for it, si Duterte mismo ni admit naa naay lapses, naay sayup sa list.

On that list, based on procedures of evidence, ang fruits of the poisonous tree is to be discarded completely. SC pa mismo nag ingun, absurd na i.accept siya as evidence. Now even if we do not take it from a purely legalistic point-of-view, that still makes sense logically. The list came from possibly (and by the looks of it probably) corrupted sources. Mas maayo unta tu na naa'y internal cleansing and then naay formulation of the list. If nag-una ang cleansing, dili unta daghan innocent ang namatay karun, wala unta nang pag plant ug evidence.

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Yo guys. Thoughts on this one? "Duterte calls ex-Colombian president an ‘idiot’ for drug war ‘lecture’"

Duterte calls ex-Colombian president 'idiot' for 'lecturing' him on drug war

I know we can't have a perfect leader but being decent/diplomat the way you talk is really not that hard samot na ug president ka.

Bro @marius mao ra jd akong problema niya ba. lol not trying to start a debate ha but what are your thoughts on this one? hehe

My thoughts,
He can say whatever he wants. The mere fact that he is the President of a "sovereign" nation, makes him able to do so.
The ex-colombian President will understand this.

Mao man gud na ang problema pud bitaw nato, we were programmed since, the beginning of this Republic to see leaders as prim and prop and be viewed as ceremoniously infallible figure.

Mura ranag silingan nimo, nanglabot nimo ug gi unsa nimo pagdala ang imong panimalay.

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I do not believe there is a Korean mafia here yet, unless you can prove me wrong using evidence. I believe na internal cleansing ang solution. Ang nahitabo man gud kay gihimo ra ug scapegoat sa government ang alleged and doubtful existence ana na organization. I would have been fine if Duterte stopped with katung apology to S. Korea and the filing of charges against the police, but gipakapinan paman gud niya, mura na nuon ug nanghugas siyag kamot.

Sir if we are talking about possibilities raman diay and not probabilities (based on evidence jud mismo) then anything can be assumed. Pwede ta mu-assume na every time naay crime mahitabo ngari mafia ang sad-an. After all, possible man jud diba? even if dili probable?

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"Naa man kaha'y sayup" - Dont take my word for it, si Duterte mismo ni admit naa naay lapses, naay sayup sa list.

On that list, based on procedures of evidence, ang fruits of the poisonous tree is to be discarded completely. SC pa mismo nag ingun, absurd na i.accept siya as evidence. Now even if we do not take it from a purely legalistic point-of-view, that makes sense logically. The list came from possibly (and by the looks of it probably) corrupted sources. Mas maayo unta tu na naa'y internal cleansing and then naay formulation of the list. If nag-una ang cleansing, dili unta daghan innocent ang namatay karun, wala unta nang pag plant ug evidence.

Bai..

Wala may nakiglalis nimo anang imong pagtuo nga walay Korean Mafia.

Ingon man kaha ka nga wala, eh di wala.. -- para na nimo..


And besides kinsa man ang ingon nimo nga mao nay scapegoat gigamit nila?
Sure, naay ni ingon nga PDEA nga naay Korean Mafia diri sa Cebu, and the Aguirre might have mentioned it once or twice.

The killing of the Korean person is a given fact.. Whether he was killed by somebody else or some Korean not Mafia.. The fact that he was killed.

And he was killed by the policemen...

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Since, i discard naman nato ang list bai,,

Unsa naman lang ato gamiton ani karon?? WAla natay basihan ug kinsa tong mga tawhana nga dapat i surveillance?

If you have another list, let's take a look at it.

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The way you structure your argument is to limit it to a yes or a no.

It leaves much to be desired.

Leave that argument in court, ayaw diri sa forum.

Freedom of Speech

[BrokenDreamer]

Bai..

Wala may nakiglalis nimo anang imong pagtuo nga walay Korean Mafia.

Ingon man kaha ka nga wala, eh di wala.. -- para na nimo..


And besides kinsa man ang ingon nimo nga mao nay scapegoat gigamit nila?
Sure, naay ni ingon nga PDEA nga naay Korean Mafia diri sa Cebu, and the Aguirre might have mentioned it once or twice.

The killing of the Korean person is a given fact.. Whether he was killed by somebody else or some Korean not Mafia.. The fact that he was killed.

And he was killed by the policemen...

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Since, i discard naman nato ang list bai,,

Unsa naman lang ato gamiton ani karon?? WAla natay basihan ug kinsa tong mga tawhana nga dapat i surveillance?

Sir, nangutana man ka nako diba?

"1. your argument is whether or not naay Korean Mafia sa Cebu or Manila? "

Also, FYI sir I was reacting to another user when he said na he believes Korean mafia jud ang nagpapatay. Ikaw raman ang ni-butt in. Please back-read, thanks para makasabot ka. Thanks.

Yes, freedom of speech. The end of every emotionally-backed argument. I agree.

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Update

"Unsa naman lang ato gamiton ani karon??"

Seems like you didnt read my previous post last paragraph.

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Ana gyud na bro, mura rag nanguyab.. if dili sugton ma hugno..

Basin taas pud kaayo imong expectations gi set para sa tiguwang.

Time and again it is proven that every after election the jubilation is so high, that after awhile it will come down.
A house divided will not stand..

Before nimo ma limpyo entirely ang tibuok balay, tanggalon ang tanan abog2x, ug mga hugaw, imo usang ipang irog tanan butang, bukekeon, lugiton ug uyogon. Para matangtang ang tanang mga abog, hugaw ug mga walay gamit.


Ang ako ra ani...

Sa tanan Presidente akong naagian ug nabotaran ug namatngunan kani ra nga Presidente ang tarong2x.

I compare nimo ni Cory, Erap, Gloria, Noynoy, Ramos... Ambot lang...

No doubt man dyud inuon when it comes to results, dili dyud mabang bang ang resulta, pero the way his administration handles themselves lang ba. Like for example, Duterte has his own "agenda" in which he does not disseminate properly, ang ending kay magkabalintuwang ang mga subordinates niya. Magkabuang daun og interpret ang mga speakers niya.

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Sir, nangutana man ka nako diba?

"1. your argument is whether or not naay Korean Mafia sa Cebu or Manila? "

Also, FYI sir I was reacting to another user when he said na he believes Korean mafia jud ang nagpapatay. Ikaw raman ang ni-butt in. Please back-read, thanks para makasabot ka. Thanks.

Yup, I did butt-in.. that's a given. People tend to do it here.

If you did react to another poster, you should also have quoted him.

It was my post that you have quoted, and from that line of argument was rebutting mine. here..here...