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  1. #13051

    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    For the longest time nga wala pa ang social media, controlado ang government thinking through major media outlets.

    See for example, alleged EDSA III, nag media blackout, walay balita gikan sa ABSCBN, GMA7 and others. Unsay nahitabo? Mura rag wala.

    Mendiola Massacre - wala pay social media.. pero ang nagdala sa governo kay ang yellow man.. aw.. lutaw2x lang sa hangin.. mura rag wala.

    Yolanda -- ni start nag pick-up ang social media ani, pero mao lage controlado gihapon sa major news outlets aBS, GMA7 etc. .. minghoy ang bilyones nga donation.

    Kadtong mga media gi massacre -- media na gani to ha,, member na nila.. unsay nahitabo hangtud karon padayon ang kaso minghoy gihapon.

    SAF44 - kusog na ang social media -- karon murag mao nana ang mohaunt ni noynoy... more informed na ang mga tawo.. bisan unsaon ug cover sa ABS ug GMA manggawas gyud..

    and so so so many others...

    Maong ayaw ilimit ang imong huna2x anang EJK2x...

    For all we know, part of it could be.. sponsored ba kaha sa government, or it could even be sponsored sa LP..
    Or it could be a myriad of different things.. Allegations that the Sinaloa Cartel is operating in the Philippines, which by the way is a large possibility, as these Cartel is known to operate worldwide, allegations of rogue or corrupt cops, which is again never an impossibility, the temptation of money in the millions in return for something imputable is just enticing. Other drug syndicates claiming territories is also another angle..

    As you know, a fall of one drug lord could trigger a chain reaction in that it causes a vacuum of power / business opportunities, I'll give you an example. When region 7's drug lord tata negro fell, or was gunned down, there was a void in who will be replacing him as the top brass of a drug supplier. It created a power struggle in the drug business, which ultimately fell to the hands of "jaguar", when jaguar was again gunned down, allegedly, his siblings or someone related to him took over, and a strain of killings ensued. His girlfried was gunned down again. For all we know these could be their handlers, you know, people in power (politiko, businessman, an influential figure) trying to clean up their ranks, cutting any possible means to negate any claims that might be attributable to them.


    Maong ayaw i limit ang imong news sa ABSCNB lang ug GMA.. naay other news nga raw and unadulterated na.. we are better informed now because of social media.. something nga dili ma control sa media giants.

    Ang problema man gud ani kay naa nay investigation ang Senate, paminaw lang..

    Ang nakalisod pud ani karon kay ang na apil sa pinakadako nga drug operation is LP, si Delima.
    Who again has the backing of these corrupt people, who has all the money to spend in order to go back to status quo.

    STatus quo, ibalik ang drug industry.
    Bitaw boss sakto mn ka controlado mn jud ang media ka bantay pd ko ana. Pero bisag kinsay mo lingkud d jud ko mo hatag ug 100% na salig nga silay mka sulbad sa atong nasud

    ky tao ra sd bya na sila possibly jud ma sayup sila sa ilang decision bsag tnoud silang sincere sa ilang goal para sa atong nasud.

    D sd ko ka blame nganung gubot pero atu nasud bsag kinsay pai mo lingkud ky tungud mana sa atong mga batasan, Supakon permi kung kinsay mo lingkud ang hilig pud ka au ta anang blame game. mao ng gubot jud permi bsag unsa pa ka tarung ang mo linkud.

    Pero bsag kinsay mo lingkud ma au rman atong pag puyo kanang problema permi mana d mana malikayan gawas kung nag tinapulan ta then blame dayun sa ng lingkud.

  2. #13052
    Boss Luis, ayaw lng kalain. Sabta lng sad na uban dri kay skeptical ug maglibog na dyod kinsa ang kinsa. Kay new kaau imung account. And daghan kaau magpost dri na multiple accounts nya puro mga bag.o. Kanang mga accounts gud na bag.o ra dyod kaau gi himo and ang unang mga posts or majority kay sa kani na threads.

    Pero defend lng, and would be best mu state ug arguments. Naa man gud uban topics na tackled na. Or covered na sauna pa nya gi sige balikx2.

  3. #13053
    Quote Originally Posted by obelisk View Post
    Boss Luis, ayaw lng kalain. Sabta lng sad na uban dri kay skeptical ug maglibog na dyod kinsa ang kinsa. Kay new kaau imung account. And daghan kaau magpost dri na multiple accounts nya puro mga bag.o. Kanang mga accounts gud na bag.o ra dyod kaau gi himo and ang unang mga posts or majority kay sa kani na threads.

    Pero defend lng, and would be best mu state ug arguments. Naa man gud uban topics na tackled na. Or covered na sauna pa nya gi sige balikx2.
    Lagi kasabot nku bai. wa mn sd gud koy profile pic ga libog ko unsaon pag butang profile pic hehehe

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    Klaro kaayo nga Korean Mafia ang nagpapatay ato nga koreano, way lain mka afford og gamit sa high ranking pnp officers para mo stage og kidnapping gawas sa mga Mafia..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComeToPapa View Post
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    Klaro kaayo nga Korean Mafia ang nagpapatay ato nga koreano, way lain mka afford og gamit sa high ranking pnp officers para mo stage og kidnapping gawas sa mga Mafia..
    I doubt that. Even the government does not have hard evidence supporting such. Just like the list of drug personalities Duterte gave out early in his term, this allegation is just hearsay. If mangita kag maka afford, daghan maka afford sa atu, hilom2 lang na sila.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/opinion/president-duterte-is-repeating-my-mistakes.html?_r=0

    When will we learn.

  6. #13056
    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    I doubt that. Even the government does not have hard evidence supporting such. Just like the list of drug personalities Duterte gave out early in his term, this allegation is just hearsay. If mangita kag maka afford, daghan maka afford sa atu, hilom2 lang na sila.
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    Daghan mka afford og gun for hire pero high ranking PNP? Bsan gani mga rival political clans, gun for hire ra makaya!! haha
    Ayaw i-compare ang Colombian president kang Digong.. Digong knows whats he doing and the people is supports him.. Drugs sa giingon pa ni Digong can be stopped, di lang gyud competent enough ang mga South American Leaders.

  7. #13057
    Quote Originally Posted by ComeToPapa View Post
    Daghan mka afford og gun for hire pero high ranking PNP? Bsan gani mga rival political clans, gun for hire ra makaya!! haha

    Ayaw i-compare ang Colombian president kang Digong.. Digong knows whats he doing and the people is supports him.. Drugs sa giingon pa ni Digong can be stopped, di lang gyud competent enough ang mga South American Leaders.
    Daghan jud bitaw maka afford ana. Bang.an man tawn ka sa mga sindikato ngari sa Philippines. lol what is a few tens of millions to a billion peso industry.

    Wait, you do know that Cesar Gaviria ang author ana right? And you do know of his accomplishments? Tan-awa iya mga nabuhat as Secretary General even if you ignore his stint as a President at a time where grabe kaayo ang drug trade sa ila and ingna ko if dili siya competent. Dili Narcos ako basis ani ha. Iyang White Papers written mismo. The truth is hard to swallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    I doubt that. Even the government does not have hard evidence supporting such. Just like the list of drug personalities Duterte gave out early in his term, this allegation is just hearsay. If mangita kag maka afford, daghan maka afford sa atu, hilom2 lang na sila.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/o...akes.html?_r=0

    When will we learn.
    They don't have hard evidence yet, however, that doesn't preclude the idea that there is a third party unbeknownst to us.
    Mao bitaw gi mention na ni Duterte ang naa sa list kay aron makahibalo ang katawhan kinsa ang mga tawo nga suspected nga involved sa drugs.

    Ato sugdan..

    Leila deLima -- sige dili man daw siya involved sa drugs.
    Peter Lim ... involved or not?
    Peter Co ... involved naman tingale ni kay ni tug-an naman ni didto sa hearing sa lower house.
    Herbert Colangco ... involved or not??
    Kerwin Espinosa... involved or not?
    Jaguar ... involved or not?
    Mike Rama ... involved or not?
    Parojinog in Ozamiz .... involved or not?

    Yeah,, hearsay.. but the list seems to contain names that somehow sheds some light on how drugs proliferated in our country.

  9. #13059
    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    They don't have hard evidence yet, however, that doesn't preclude the idea that there is a third party unbeknownst to us.
    Mao bitaw gi mention na ni Duterte ang naa sa list kay aron makahibalo ang katawhan kinsa ang mga tawo nga suspected nga involved sa drugs.

    Ato sugdan..

    Leila deLima -- sige dili man daw siya involved sa drugs.
    Peter Lim ... involved or not?
    Peter Co ... involved naman tingale ni kay ni tug-an naman ni didto sa hearing sa lower house.
    Herbert Colangco ... involved or not??
    Kerwin Espinosa... involved or not?
    Jaguar ... involved or not?
    Mike Rama ... involved or not?
    Parojinog in Ozamiz .... involved or not?

    Yeah,, hearsay.. but the list seems to contain names that somehow sheds some light on how drugs proliferated in our country.
    All "fruits of the poisonous tree." Kay established na dili kasaligan ang source anang list. Granting na yes all of those you mentioned are involved, lahi ni run sa Korean mafia allegation. Mas likely na internal ang sindikato and red herring lang ning pag akusar sa gobyerno. Hilig bya silag red herring.

    "They don't have hard evidence yet, however, that doesn't preclude the idea that there is a third party unbeknownst to us."

    Yes, but that preclusion does not grant us the right to make stuff up to cover up an internal mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenDreamer View Post
    All "fruits of the poisonous tree." Kay established na dili kasaligan ang source anang list. Granting na yes all of those you mentioned are involved, lahi ni run sa Korean mafia allegation. Mas likely na internal ang sindikato and red herring lang ning pag akusar sa gobyerno. Hilig bya silag red herring.

    "They don't have hard evidence yet, however, that doesn't preclude the idea that there is a third party unbeknownst to us."

    Yes, but that preclusion does not grant us the right to make stuff up to cover up an internal mess.
    So naa na poy term diay ana red herring na pud karon?

    wala na diay mogamit atong fake news? online trolls... dutertards... etc..etc?

    And your argument is dili tinuod ang korean mafia?

    Or ang list ni Duterte dili katuohan? Which is which?

    Or are you saying that the they Bato, Duterte, Aguirre and the administration is covering things up?
    Last edited by firestarter; 02-08-2017 at 11:12 AM.

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