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  1. #1621

    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    there is no debate actually. just sharing opinions. there were two options actually, to declare state of emergency or declare state of calamity.

    the president declared state of calamity and i think we all know what happened. history will speak for itself.

    sadly government never learned somehow. how many typhoons come in a year. seems like over and over again its the same.
    hehehe debate was the wrong word..i should edit it to we can share on our opinions..thanks anyway..

    but we have to give credits to our government..for showing the people what not to do before, during and after a typhoon or any calamities..hehehe..at least..

  2. #1622
    Quote Originally Posted by renalaine View Post
    hehehe debate was the wrong word..i should edit it to we can share on our opinions..thanks anyway..

    but we have to give credits to our government..for showing the people what not to do before, during and after a typhoon or any calamities..hehehe..at least..
    yes kudos to them for "showing".. not acting with a firm hand. big difference.

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    wala nang debate-argue, ready to suntukan.!

    to address ko: 157 P tuazon cubao QC.. aantayin kita

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    I agree the devastation is huge.. but where is the govt urgency? Mao na dha!

    State of emergency, wala, ideally naa unta to kay walay local govt na nga ni function. Pero bugok ang presidente maski angkon ka or dili.

    "By having state of emergency, it means that the government can suspend and/or change some functions of the executive, the legislative and/or the judiciary during this period of time.. it alerts citizens to change their normal behavior and orders government agencies to implement emergency plans.."
    kana imong meaning sa state of emergency is a general interpretation of the proclamation gikan sa wiki, but here in our country a state of emergency is implemented in a different way.. when sourcing out legal doctrines it is important to source it out from our own legal parlance, otherwise you'd get lost in translation..

    Here in Philippines a State of Emergency specifically empowers the provincial governor to carry out such emergency measures as may be necessary during and in the aftermath of disasters and calamities., in the case of tacloban where local chiefs are unable to function properly kay sila sad nabiktima it was not ideal to declare a state of emergency, because they themselves cannot manage to operate, mao tong ni decide atong National Government to declare a state of calamity, inorder nga ang mamahala sa operations kay sila na, mao ning mga mabuhat kong mag declare ug state of calamity:

    (1) imposition of price ceiling on basic necessities and prime commodities; (2) monitoring, prevention and control of overpricing/profiteering and hoarding of prime commodities, medicines and petroleum products; (3) programming/reprogramming of funds for the repair and safety upgrading of public infrastructures and facilities; and (4) granting of no-interest loans by government financing or lending institutions to the most affected section of the population.

    and it can take effect nationally.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE KID View Post
    i think you should contemplate of this post of yours.....
    why?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    i disagree. emergency was better as this will overrule any local government function until such time local government can buckle up and get their shit up. a state of emergency even if its just for 3 days would've been better. national government could've done much more and more freely without having to go through LGU sh*t. plus more military could've been called in to help. im not an expert though.just an opinion on what could've been done better. that is what duterte said in his previous interview and i agree with him with all due respect to roxas supporters.

    the president did declared state of calamity. but i think there was more they could've done without the constraints from the LGU.

    Code:
    http://www.rappler.com/nation/43492-duterte-in-tears-after-visiting-ravaged-tacloban


    when you said "state of calamity was the proper declaration", i know now why you support roxas?
    It's the other way around, a state of emergency empowers hinuon the local government to control certain operations in it's jurisdiction, and sa sitwasyon nila sa Tacloban, seeing that the local government are not functional like you said, a state of emergency is no longer viable, mao tong ni come in tong state of calamity inorder for the National Government to take over operations in Tacloban, but usa sa rason nganong nalangan to was that Romualdez was asking too many questions regarding the request of Mar to have a written ordinance asking the national government to take over relief and rescue operations,. Mar was just making sure they are following legal formalities,. but i agree, a better system must be made para ma dali ang operasyon sa sunod, simbako

  6. #1626
    Kamong mga Roxas ba kahibaw naman jud mo daan nga dili mudaog ni inyong manok. why not change your vote to Duterte para siguradong walay maka daog lain? simbako maka daog lag kalit si binay/poe kay na bahin bahin atong mga votes. sayang kaayo inyong vote, tinood naa tay freedom to choose pero practikalay lang dili jud na siya kadaog

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    It's the other way around, a state of emergency empowers hinuon the local government to control certain operations in it's jurisdiction, and sa sitwasyon nila sa Tacloban, seeing that the local government are not functional like you said, a state of emergency is no longer viable, mao tong ni come in tong state of calamity inorder for the National Government to take over operations in Tacloban, but usa sa rason nganong nalangan to was that Romualdez was asking too many questions regarding the request of Mar to have a written ordinance asking the national government to take over relief and rescue operations,. Mar was just making sure they are following legal formalities,. but i agree, a better system must be made para ma dali ang operasyon sa sunod, simbako
    Where did you read that state of emergency empowers local government execs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    Where did you read that state of emergency empowers local government execs?
    Section 465(b)(1)(vii) of Republic Act No. 7160, specifically empowers the local chief to “carry out such emergency measures as may be necessary during and in the aftermath of man-made and natural disasters and calamities.” If an LGU will be under a state of emergency, certain privisions in the Local Government Code are effected..

    Section 368 of the Local Government Code empowers LGUs, through the local chief executive, to make emergency purchases, to use regardless of amount, without public bidding, to reallocate funds, etc., if it can be assessed however that the LGU is non-functional, a need to declare a higher state becomes necessary, therefore enabling the national government to take over of the whole operations..

  9. #1629
    Pathetic President hiring pathetic cabinets, and cabinets getting incompetent staffs.
    This has to change!
    They are just fooling us around and they're asking for our votes is an insult to our right state of mind.

  10. #1630
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueIre View Post
    Kamong mga Roxas ba kahibaw naman jud mo daan nga dili mudaog ni inyong manok. why not change your vote to Duterte para siguradong walay maka daog lain? simbako maka daog lag kalit si binay/poe kay na bahin bahin atong mga votes. sayang kaayo inyong vote, tinood naa tay freedom to choose pero practikalay lang dili jud na siya kadaog
    c iron mar no win.? di ko matanggap ito.! dapat bayaran na natin ang comelec o kaya gawa tayo ng sariling PCOS natin.!

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