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  1. #141

    Quote Originally Posted by yumi_yan View Post
    Okay sad na imong idea nga i-convert ug hospital. All I am trying to say is that the CICC should not be left idle. To leave it idle due to politics does not make Davide any better than Gwen. Pwede pud i-baligya nalang ni Davide haron wala nay maka remind niya ni Gwen. Pwede pud paabangan. Pwede i-joint venture aron walay gasto ang gobyerno. There are so many alternatives. To leave it to rot is the worst alternative of all. I hate hypocrites. And Davide is acting all high and mighty and accusing Gwen of so many different things. That's fine. But until she is found guilty, we must presume she is innocent. If found hguilty, then she will get what is coming to her. But Davide is the one playing politics now. He refuses to do anything with the CICC just because he believes it was overpriced when built. So he is just making the situation worst. None of us Cebuanos are gaining anything from this politicking. Kita ra ang gibuang nila.
    Murag dili ka maka mahay ni DVD ana, ang KORTE moy mahaya.. Naay on-going graft case against GWEN regarding anang CICC. Pasabot walay maka hilabot anang CICC until mahuman ang kaso.

    Sa atong Justice System maguba gyud na maayo, ug dili gyud na mapa himoslan until mahuman ang kaso. So paabot nalang ta..

    If I'm not mistaken CICC was offered to Mandaue City, then again ebidensya cya sa pending case so magpa bilin ra gyud na diha.

  2. #142
    Himua nalang sa na ninyog pungko2x nga pagkaunan dihang CICC aron mapuslan. Sus ginoo kadako baya intawn anang kantidara nga 840 Million.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    that is not the question i was asking for. i was asking for your evidence and timeline when gwen et al came out to complain. ingon man ka nga nilihok ra kay naay nireklamo.so ask ko nimo when naay nireklamo kay tagaan tikag information when gilihok.

    and for the record, kanang link imong gi post is already moot and not new. i have already given you a link to a statement before nga he would not spend a single centavo mainly because they are in talks with national government to fund the repair. and i have already given you a link that national government is keen on funding the repair.

    wala to nimo basaha? anyways, answer my question please.

    aron once and for all mahibaw-an nato if nilihok raba gyud sila after naay nireklamo. you accused them that nga nilihok lang sila kung naay nireklamo then let us know where did you based that information.

    please note that i am not agreeing or disagreeing with you. am not trying to refute any of your statements whatsoever.i am also not trying to engage in a debate or argument. i just wanted to be fair. i want to state documented based information. i just wanted to know if your accusations are based on what information.
    Mura na ta ug si Inday Apaollo ini, magcge nalang ug pangayo ug link. I don't remember exactly where I read it and I don't have the time nor want to put more too much effort to search for it. I di try to look but did not find it kay dugay naman toh. But in the last link I gave you, you will see this statement from Davide. And it is true. Davide has been consistently saying from the start of his term that he will not repair the CICC. Just as Gwen has been consistently complaining about it from after it was damaged from the earthquake and Yolanda. This issue, along with its background, has been in all 3 local newspapers lately because of the 2 lawsuits filed against the governor. It you read any or all of the papers, you will find your answers there, in both news items and opinion columns. No need for me to post a link. But if I come across any relevant news item and I happen to have my ipad handy, I will post the link for you.

    Yesterday, Davide said he has yet to receive a copy of the complaint but stood firm that the structure is not his priority.

    “From the start, I made my pronouncement that the province would not spend a single centavo for the repair of the CICC,” Davide said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newsprint_kuno View Post
    Murag dili ka maka mahay ni DVD ana, ang KORTE moy mahaya.. Naay on-going graft case against GWEN regarding anang CICC. Pasabot walay maka hilabot anang CICC until mahuman ang kaso.

    Sa atong Justice System maguba gyud na maayo, ug dili gyud na mapa himoslan until mahuman ang kaso. So paabot nalang ta..

    If I'm not mistaken CICC was offered to Mandaue City, then again ebidensya cya sa pending case so magpa bilin ra gyud na diha.
    I think the Ombudsman has already given the go signal for the CICC to be rehabilitated despite the ongoing investigation so this should not be used as an excuse.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by brandx View Post
    Himua nalang sa na ninyog pungko2x nga pagkaunan dihang CICC aron mapuslan. Sus ginoo kadako baya intawn anang kantidara nga 840 Million.
    Masmaayo pa na kaysa pasagdan lang. Dako bitaw kaau na ang P840 million para usik-usikan. Naa naman na diha ang CICC, ngano dili naman lang gamiton? Ngano dili naman lang puslan? Ngano pasagdan ra man diha ma lata? Kung tinuod man gani nga overpriced na or naay illegal nga nahimo diha, di prisoha ang naay sala, di ba? Pero ayaw usiki ang building kay naa naman na. Hamana naman ug gasto ang P840 million nato ana. Dili naman toh ma balik. Pwede ra nato ma bawi atong kwarta by using the CICC to generate revenues or by selling it.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by yumi_yan View Post


    I think the Ombudsman has already given the go signal for the CICC to be rehabilitated despite the ongoing investigation so this should not be used as an excuse.

    you think?? so you are not sure.. then there is another reason as to why davide didnt repair CICC, it's not because of politics, ayaw lage pugsa yumi_yan

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Synthetic View Post
    you think?? so you are not sure.. then there is another reason as to why davide didnt repair CICC, it's not because of politics, ayaw lage pugsa yumi_yan
    When I used the word "think" when I said I think, I was trying to be polite by pointing out that the ombudsman already gave the go signal to repair the CICC. My choice of words did not mean I was unsure of what I said. I always give people the benefit of the doubt and I try to be polite and show respect to people I interact with in this forum for the first time. I was trying to sound nice, something I don't feel obligated to do when I interact with you.

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by yumi_yan View Post
    When I used the word "think" when I said I think, I was trying to be polite by pointing out that the ombudsman already gave the go signal to repair the CICC. My choice of words did not mean I was unsure of what I said. I always give people the benefit of the doubt and I try to be polite and show respect to people I interact with in this forum for the first time. I was trying to sound nice, something I don't feel obligated to do when I interact with you.
    bah don't talk about how you treat others on this forum, STAY ON POINT!

    you said you think the ombudsman has already given the go signal and then you conclude that it should not be an excuse, but in the first place you aren't even sure that the ombudsman has given the go signal, you should have said that there is a possibility that this could be an excuse, ayaw lage pugsa

    and since ni ana ka nga dli ni dapat nga mahimung excuse, again, back up your claim @yumi_yan...

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by yumi_yan View Post
    Mura na ta ug si Inday Apaollo ini, magcge nalang ug pangayo ug link. I don't remember exactly where I read it and I don't have the time nor want to put more too much effort to search for it. I di try to look but did not find it kay dugay naman toh. But in the last link I gave you, you will see this statement from Davide. And it is true. Davide has been consistently saying from the start of his term that he will not repair the CICC. Just as Gwen has been consistently complaining about it from after it was damaged from the earthquake and Yolanda. This issue, along with its background, has been in all 3 local newspapers lately because of the 2 lawsuits filed against the governor. It you read any or all of the papers, you will find your answers there, in both news items and opinion columns. No need for me to post a link. But if I come across any relevant news item and I happen to have my ipad handy, I will post the link for you.

    Yesterday, Davide said he has yet to receive a copy of the complaint but stood firm that the structure is not his priority.

    “From the start, I made my pronouncement that the province would not spend a single centavo for the repair of the CICC,” Davide said.

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    I think the Ombudsman has already given the go signal for the CICC to be rehabilitated despite the ongoing investigation so this should not be used as an excuse.
    Yes mam mangayu ko ug link.nahan man pud ko makahibaw asa nimo nabasa.di man lisud isearch. Igo raman ka magtype sa google. Magpaabot ko sa imong link.
    lain man pud gud au ning sigeg accuse nga mao ni ug mao na pero puro walay basehan.di ba lain au nang ingun ana? Mura rag chismis nang ingun ana.edukado man ta mao nang lets talk substance with proof. Di kay sigeg bato nalang.

    Pagsulti lang kung di ka makahatag sa imo proof kay muundang nako ani nga topic.hehe.kapoy pud sige pangayu ig link oi.mura kug iro sige aw2x sa buwan.

  9. #149
    Governor, PB sued over CICC's disrepair

    CEBU Gov. Hilario Davide III and the Provincial Board are facing criminal and administrative complaints before the Office of the Ombudsman-Visayas for their “willful failure” to repair the Cebu International Convention Center (CICC).

    Lawyer Ervin Estandarte filed the complaints, in which he accused the governor and the provincial legislators of violating Republic Act 3019 (Anti-Graft and Corrupt Practices Act) and Presidential Decree 807 (Civil Service Decree of the Philippines), and Republic Act 6713 (Code of Conduct of Public Officers and Employees).

    “As the father of the Province, he (Davide) has the duty to take care of the properties (of the Province), including the CICC,” Estandarte told reporters.

    He said in his complaint that he is a resident of Barangay Pagsabungan in Mandaue City, and that during his “regular Sunday jog” around the facility, he remembers “those happy times when CICC was alive and vibrant.”

    Waiting

    Both the October 2013 earthquake and typhoon Yolanda, which followed less than a month later, damaged parts of the CICC. It had been built in 2006, during then-Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia’s first term, while Cebu prepared to host meetings of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

    Asked about the cases, Governor Davide and some of the PB members said they would rather wait for the case records from the Office of the Ombudsman before discussing the complaints in public.

    PB Member Miguel Magpale said they need to review the case first. Members Grecilda Sanchez and Jude Thaddeus Sybico pointed out that since the CICC is still the subject of litigation, the Province was correct in not touching it, in the meantime.

    “That goes with the job (as a public official),” Sybico said of the cases filed.

    That sign

    In his complaint-affidavit, Estandarte said that the pending graft and corruption case over the construction of the CICC is not a license for Capitol officials to “neglect and abandon this people’s property altogether.”

    “Its metals corroded and (are) rusting away from exposure to the elements of sun and rain; the carpets, equipment, furniture and fixture rotting. There is a clear and present danger that we cannot anymore save whatever is left of the CICC,” he said.

    He mentioned the display of the “NEVER AGAIN” banner along with the cost of building the CICC, right on the structure’s façade. “That signage, though, reminds us to be vigilant. It is equally hurting and the pain deepens every time we pass by, because we see a dying structure behind it and it is asking for help, and we do nothing or are helpless about it,” Estandarte wrote in his complaint.

    Last August, Provincial Administrator Mark Tolentino was quoted as saying that the Capitol needed about P160 million to repair and upgrade the CICC.

    Deputy Ombudsman Paul Elmer Clemente approved Governor Davide’s request to rehabilitate the building into exhibition spaces for furniture and other products made in Cebu.

    ‘Bad faith’

    This, after Davide wrote the Office of the Ombudsman-Visayas to request for authority to repair the CICC, despite the pending cases.

    It was last July 31, 2012, when Ombudsman Conchita Carpio-Morales approved the filing of charges against former governor Garcia and six other Capitol officials for allegedly violating the Anti-Graft and Corrupt Practices Act in the CICC project.

    Estandarte, in his complaint, wrote: “There is evident bad faith because the CICC has been decaying for years and yet it was only in July 2015 when he (Governor Davide) put his mind to the CICC by writing the Ombudsman for permission to initiate repairs.”

    “Until the filing of this complaint, no sign of activity for repairs of the CICC has been initiated,” the complainant added.

    The National Government, through the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI), has expressed interest in rehabilitating the facility to set up a Center for Industry and Trade Expositions.

    The Mandaue City Government, which owns the lot where the facility was built, and the Provincial Government have considered DTI’s offer.



    he made a request to the Ombudsman to authorize for the repair of the CICC. he could have had the good intentions of saving it, most probably. so the question is, why suddenly the Mystery Billboard?

  10. #150
    Sa una active pa kog bike anha me magabot dha sa CICC nindot kaayo dha una magabie.Karun wa nay ayo ibaligya nalang unta private sector.Mahugmak nalang na d pa mapreso ang .Ngano wala man pud gerepair pila d i katuig maggather ug ebedensya.

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