All About Current Admin of Duterte

[Da Fai]

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I see the same people as you and istorya do. And you are right. These people exist. There are tagalogs who look down upon bisdaks. But I call BS on the generalization. Tagalogs in general don't look down on us. You just have confirmation bias. You grew up hearing these generalizations (which could have been true during the past generations, i must admit) and these were later confirmed when you had similar experiences. But that doesn't mean that tagalogs are generally looking down on bisdaks.

I have been all over Luzon and Visayas. It's a yes to all the places that you've mentioned and a whole lot more. And true, there are some places that are worse than in Visayas. But why bother bringing that up? It doesn't confirm your claim that magkagubot ang Manila kung si Duterte ang mudaog. There's no basis on your claim nga makalitan sila kung mag change sa system si Duterte.. And what difference is there sa mga tao sa Central Visayas or sa mga bisdaks? You're not claiming nga di sila magkagubot kung mag usab na sa system si Duterte? Are you saying that tagalogs are less likely to abide to improvement of the system than bisdaks?

i laughed when you say that you have been all over luzon and visayas and claim nga in general dili cla ingon ana?
grabe jud diay kaau ka kalaagan? have you been to ilocos? have u been drinking with the locals there and asked how they see us?
you may defend the general luzon public and may call our claims as BS, I on the other hand is not confirmation bias, boss @redemption32, i have been educated enough not to go for bias claims and assessments, this is my opinion, and this is what i have experienced during those stays and tours in luzon, maybe for you, ang imo mga "kasalamuha" are the elites but not the general public, if u want my answer just to stop this discussion already about how "bias" i am to luzon:
your question?
Are you saying that tagalogs are less likely to abide to improvement of the system than bisdaks? - YES, not likely to less likely they will abide, come to think of it, cguro, magkagubot sad sa central visayas kay makalitan, but then again, masabtan ra, especially cebu kay mag cge2 adto c duterte sa cebu and na influence napud in the long run.

these GENERAL you keep talking about are not the commoners and lower classess,

[redemption32]

i laughed when you say that you have been all over luzon and visayas and claim nga in general dili cla ingon ana?
grabe jud diay kaau ka kalaagan? have you been to ilocos? have u been drinking with the locals there and asked how they see us?
you may defend the general luzon public and may call our claims as BS, I on the other hand is not confirmation bias, boss @redemption32, i have been educated enough not to go for bias claims and assessments, this is my opinion, and this is what i have experienced during those stays and tours in luzon, maybe for you, ang imo mga "kasalamuha" are the elites but not the general public, if u want my answer just to stop this discussion already about how "bias" i am to luzon:
your question?
Are you saying that tagalogs are less likely to abide to improvement of the system than bisdaks? - YES, not likely to less likely they will abide, come to think of it, cguro, magkagubot sad sa central visayas kay makalitan, but then again, masabtan ra, especially cebu kay mag cge2 adto c duterte sa cebu and na influence napud in the long run.

these GENERAL you keep talking about are not the commoners and lower classess,

Nope. Not laagan. The nature of my job makes me visit and stay in these places. And nope, I may have not gone drinking with the locals but that is just because I don't drink. I have immersed myself with them though. I meet people of almost all status. From the rich, to the poor. And there is just no systemic belittling of bisdaks. Sure, there are some that see people from Cebu as probinsiyano but that is just because they have never been to Cebu.

What is funny is when you say that magkagubot ni sila kung mag usab na sa sistema si Duterte. You don't even know what changes in the system he will do and what changes are possible!! Do you mean when stricter laws are implemented? If you've been really here in Luzon recently, you can most likely compare that the people here are under stricter enforcement of the laws than we are in Cebu or probably other places in Visayas. If not because of that then how? You don't have anything to back up your claim nga magkagubot sila. You just don't.

And na-influence na ta ni Duterte? Hahaha. Please tell me how. Another claim that you can't back up.

[Da Fai]

Nope. Not laagan. The nature of my job makes me visit and stay in these places. And nope, I may have not gone drinking with the locals but that is just because I don't drink. I have immersed myself with them though. I meet people of almost all status. From the rich, to the poor. And there is just no systemic belittling of bisdaks. Sure, there are some that see people from Cebu as probinsiyano but that is just because they have never been to Cebu.

What is funny is when you say that magkagubot ni sila kung mag usab na sa sistema si Duterte. You don't even know what changes in the system he will do and what changes are possible!! Do you mean when stricter laws are implemented? If you've been really here in Luzon recently, you can most likely compare that the people here are under stricter enforcement of the laws than we are in Cebu or probably other places in Visayas. If not because of that then how? You don't have anything to back up your claim nga magkagubot sila. You just don't.

more strict enforcement? common please, look around the area nalang, if u wanna compare...
more stict enforcement than cebu and probably other places in visayas? yeap, tinuod, but the crime rate? manila has higher rates than cebu and other places in the visayas compared. recently? yup, may 2015, dnha ko, then karong aug. or sept. balik napud ko dha, cge ko agi2 sa manila. thats why i will tell you this again, i have stayed there. and maybe more than you.

i dont feel the need and i dont have to further back up my claims, not just my personal experience but other people's personal experience as well, as what @iSTORYA had said, ever since before and it got only worse.

i am pro duterte of running to become the nxt president, but still, i stand on my ground in my opinion nga mao jud nay mahitabo sa luzon,

[redemption32]

more strict enforcement? common please, look around the area nalang, if u wanna compare...
more stict enforcement than cebu and probably other places in visayas? yeap, tinuod, but the crime rate? manila has higher rates than cebu and other places in the visayas compared. recently? yup, may 2015, dnha ko, then karong aug. or sept. balik napud ko dha, cge ko agi2 sa manila. thats why i will tell you this again, i have stayed there. and maybe more than you.

i dont feel the need and i dont have to further back up my claims, not just my personal experience but other people's personal experience as well, as what @iSTORYA had said, ever since before and it got only worse.

i am pro duterte of running to become the nxt president, but still, i stand on my ground in my opinion nga mao jud nay mahitabo sa luzon,

Crime rates can be misleading, as community size (among several factors) matters a lot in the abundance of criminality in a community.
And since you are talking about crime, the claim that politicians and other criminals ang magkagubot, and not the people in that community per se is more valid. There is just nothing to support the idea that magkagubot ang Manila, or the rest of Luzon kung naa man mausab sa systema.

Mu ari kag Manila? When? I'm sure naa pko diri when you visit again. Haha.

I'm pro-duterte too, but again, kanang magkagubot nga imung gisulti? That's not going to happen.

[Da Fai]

Mu ari kag Manila? When? I'm sure naa pko diri when you visit again. Haha.

I'm pro-duterte too, but again, kanang magkagubot nga imung gisulti? That's not going to happen.

this time, agi ra ko, direct ko cebu, kay i have businessess to settle, then balik ra pud ko manila para debriefing sa office kuyug c misis, so no more time to laruy2 na

---- it will happen, trust me, however minor it is, rally/protests, human rights blah blah, rally man gani cla ni pinoy nga wa cla kasabot sa gipangbuhat, unsa nalang kaha kang duterte? ani nalang, naay mga history aning gubot2 due to sudden changes, singapore, malaysia, thailand, sauna kang marcos, and sa davao,
if we need someone again para mahipos tanan, ug tarong limpyo, the easiest way for me is another kind of dictator in the form of duterte, our country will change indeed,

[redemption32]

this time, agi ra ko, direct ko cebu, kay i have businessess to settle, then balik ra pud ko manila para debriefing sa office kuyug c misis, so no more time to laruy2 na

---- it will happen, trust me, however minor it is, rally/protests, human rights blah blah, rally man gani cla ni pinoy nga wa cla kasabot sa gipangbuhat, unsa nalang kaha kang duterte? ani nalang, naay mga history aning gubot2 due to sudden changes, singapore, malaysia, thailand, sauna kang marcos, and sa davao,
if we need someone again para mahipos tanan, ug tarong limpyo, the easiest way for me is another kind of dictator in the form of duterte, our country will change indeed,

The point of that is that these people will rally or mag gubot2x regardless of whether Duterte wins or not. They will rally when there is no change and they will rally when everything changes. So your original claim that mag "gubot" ni sila diri kung mudagan/ mudaog si Duterte is moot.

[Da Fai]

The point of that is that these people will rally or mag gubot2x regardless of whether Duterte wins or not. They will rally when there is no change and they will rally when everything changes. So your original claim that mag "gubot" ni sila diri kung mudagan/ mudaog si Duterte is moot.

again, in the case of luzon? it is not to be considered as a moot. i hope u have been to some barangays in olongapo, stay there for a week or so, then tell me again if dili ba mausab imo perspective nila.
gamay lang nga kasikus, reklamo dayun sa gobyerno, luzon has the largest numbers of traditional voters, compared to vis and min,
nevertheless, i am just stating my concern regarding this matter, whether dute30 wins or not running, the same thing will be over and over again.
dont be overly defensive regarding luzon, bsag unsaon pa ni nato pag bali2, mao ug mao lang ghpon ang mahitabo lagi,
give them what they need, and they will say its not enough
dont give them anything, they will complain.
do something, they will look for mistakes,
dont do something, they will complain,
open a topic how vis and min doing poorly, they will add more to it..
say how big your salary is, they will say how poor you are.

there are many reasons as to why nakasulti jud ko ani nga "magkagubot". im an ofw, and i have been working for 8 years na and daghan nasad ko tagalog nakasalamuha, in a general point of view, mura jud cla masakitan kung ilang boss kay bisaya, maybe 9 out of 10, dili malikayan, naay mga reklamo, if you work in a company and with those kind of people, dont you think you may apply it also to the philippine government sad? i respect your opinion to them as your "clients" in a business point of view, but as for me, respect my opinion on them as my "colleagues/subordinates" in a company point of view.

[redemption32]

again, in the case of luzon? it is not to be considered as a moot. i hope u have been to some barangays in olongapo, stay there for a week or so, then tell me again if dili ba mausab imo perspective nila.
gamay lang nga kasikus, reklamo dayun sa gobyerno, luzon has the largest numbers of traditional voters, compared to vis and min,
nevertheless, i am just stating my concern regarding this matter, whether dute30 wins or not running, the same thing will be over and over again.
dont be overly defensive regarding luzon, bsag unsaon pa ni nato pag bali2, mao ug mao lang ghpon ang mahitabo lagi,
give them what they need, and they will say its not enough
dont give them anything, they will complain.
do something, they will look for mistakes,
dont do something, they will complain,
open a topic how vis and min doing poorly, they will add more to it..
say how big your salary is, they will say how poor you are.

there are many reasons as to why nakasulti jud ko ani nga "magkagubot". im an ofw, and i have been working for 8 years na and daghan nasad ko tagalog nakasalamuha, in a general point of view, mura jud cla masakitan kung ilang boss kay bisaya, maybe 9 out of 10, dili malikayan, naay mga reklamo, if you work in a company and with those kind of people, dont you think you may apply it also to the philippine government sad? i respect your opinion to them as your "clients" in a business point of view, but as for me, respect my opinion on them as my "colleagues/subordinates" in a company point of view.

I have said repeatedly that I deal with them through all levels of the organization. There are people that fit your profile, and there are people that don't. That means your generalization is flawed.

I work in a company with a very diverse population. Bisaya, Tagalog, Kapampangan, Bicolano, Ilocano, Ilonggo, American, Palestinian, Chinese, German, South African and etc. And just to be clear, I'm not saying that instances of being "looked down at" doesn't happen. It does. But we can never really generalize it to Tagalogs.

A group or a community has its own internal culture (ways), so anybody not from that group or community will easily be picked out. Anything/anyone out of what's considered normal and ordinary will cause reactions: amusement by laughter and jest, or hostility by any form of bullying.

So, Manileños will find Ilonggos or Batangeñeos or Visayans or Kapampangans out of what's ordinary to them and, naturally, will always react. Hence, the jokes about the interchanging of the "e" and "i" of Visayans, an eye brow raised to the disposition of a probinsyano in the streets in Manila. To say "look down" generally is incorrect, but opinions are formed now and again, here and there, and they stick.

And the process is the same everywhere. Bicolanos, Kapampangans, Ilonggos, Visayans, Cebuanos, etc will always react to Manileños' difference to what's normal to them. Filipinos will react to the ways of foreigners as much as the rest of the world has an opinion about us.

Your only seeing one side of the river, Daryl Jude. Chill!

[dodong69]

Enough na kay pariha ramo ug botaran. So , ug unsay bohaton ni duterte ug ma Presidente na siya ugaling uyonan na ninyo parihas kay puro mo Du30 sama nako!

[redemption32]

Enough na kay pariha ramo ug botaran. So , ug unsay bohaton ni duterte ug ma Presidente na siya ugaling uyonan na ninyo parihas kay puro mo Du30 sama nako!

Hahahah.. Sakto. Just a slow day, that's all. Mao nang nag type ko diri. hahah...
And not only parehag botaran, friends pajud d.i mi ani niya sa fb. haha.