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  1. #81

    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    obviously you have NO idea what is MLAT, it wont save her, it would only gave her time, as soon as the proceeding sa iya recruiter ma human... indonesia will have no choice but to give her clemency, they are not stupid to jail an innocent person... thats will save her... basaha sa tong MLAT para masabtan nimo ug maayo on how it works... kay murag wala man siguro nimo mabasa...

    FYI: Bali 9 is just a name they gave after they are caught there is no actual group nga Bali 9... i said humanitarian and not justice... australian wanted to stop the execution not free them.. basaha ang reason sa australia para masabtan nimo... clemency itself doesnt necessary to free, but rather an act of mercy....

    in legal terms it means to lessen or moderate the harshness of the punishment... forgiving a crime its called amnesty remember those 2 words... para maka differentiate ka...
    1. daghan ka pangutana about MLAT base from your post. ikaw ra confuse ana.

    wa na nako na gitagaan kay redundant topic na na. Legal assistance gani from Indonesia to Philippines dili na pwede vice versa ang judgement kay each country has its own justice system.


    2. kasabot ko ana issue with the Australian... ayaw pag assume wa ko kahibaw. i know its about clemency.

    pangita nalang lain kastorya... naka minus naka nako and libog pud ka kaistorya.

  2. #82
    For me she nadala lang sya sa iyang emotions. It's still wrong though. The Philippine government exhausted everything to stop and the execution and it was delayed. Mary Jane Veloso was lucky, others were executed even though they were from 1st world countries. The true suspect to blame in this case is the recruiter. Veloso is just the typical Filipino desperate to get a job abroad. The only solution to all of this is to create decent jobs here in the Philippines first so they won't have to work abroad. The real case behind Veloso's recruiter is still unknown.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Romeojin View Post
    1. daghan ka pangutana about MLAT base from your post. ikaw ra confuse ana.
    question about the govt, not about the MLAT was cited as reference ikaw maoy nag libog... frankly speaking naka minus NAKO sa imo opinion, after this one... gi point na nako ang imo sayop, you understood my post as confusion to MLAT infact i question the govt and citing the MLAT as reference... and you still insist in what you believe, if there is someone who diri nga walay idea IKAW NA!

    you are right ngita kog lain kaistorya nga naay sense kay mura kog nakig storya ug bata... im done here... bata ray mo tobay nimo! from now own!!

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    question about the govt, not about the MLAT was cited as reference ikaw maoy nag libog... frankly speaking naka minus NAKO sa imo opinion, after this one... gi point na nako ang imo sayop, you understood my post as confusion to MLAT infact i question the govt and citing the MLAT as reference... and you still insist in what you believe, if there is someone who diri nga walay idea IKAW NA!

    you are right ngita kog lain kaistorya nga naay sense kay mura kog nakig storya ug bata... im done here... bata ray mo tobay nimo! from now own!!
    ikaw ra trying to confront me with MLAT, i dont even want to talk anang last minute remedy and wa kay idea unsa ang MLAT and why na invoke adto in the first place ? read your post dong and ridicule yourself. Every time you post I giggle hehehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    let's take a closer look sa MLAT...

    when can MLAT be invoke?



    however under Article 15. of transfer siya diris a pinas prisohon gihapon siya in accordance to indonesia's domestic law.

    being said, when can MLAT be invoke?, as Art 1 stated to assist in criminal matters, question now is why it took them a while to invoke this?, it is only recent that the suspected recruiter was in custody of the PNP (voluntarily asked for assistance).. why did the govt DIDN'T invoke it even before the suspected recruiter came into light?

    since the victim is already in prison in indonesia, she wasnt able to execute a sworm complaint against the suspected illegal recruiter, so why did the DFA/DOJ didnt initiate and get the sworn complaint from her?, did the indonesia govt forbid our govt from doing so?, i dont think so

    the govt is aware that MJ "might be" a victim of human trafficking, so why did the govt only at the last minute?, and not on the time where she was caught!, [url=http://globalnation.inquirer.net/79605/china-executes-filipina-drug-mule/]we've been on this road before[/url]

    Sources:
    1) http://cil.nus.edu.sg/rp/pdf/2004%20...atters-pdf.pdf

    you see libog maka invoke ba diay sila MLAT kung walay ang recruiter unsa legal assistance pangayuan nila sa Indonesia? same ra ni sa comment nimo na "it works but need replacing people".

    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    obviously you have NO idea what is MLAT, it wont save her, it would only gave her time, as soon as the proceeding sa iya recruiter ma human... indonesia will have no choice but to give her clemency, they are not stupid to jail an innocent person... thats will save her... basaha sa tong MLAT para masabtan nimo ug maayo on how it works... kay murag wala man siguro nimo mabasa...
    Di sad pwede ma.influence ilang ruling with the case building against MJ's recruiter. Ikaw ra ingon basaha ang Timeline sunod ikaw ra diay wa kasabot... kapila na gibutang didto na gi-upheld na ang death penalty sa Supreme Court of Indonesia ug kapila na gi deny ang judicial review. Moingon ka ron mo change pa ilang decision unsa tan-aw nimo sa MLAT, two-country tribunal ? lol

    I repeat para na sa recruiter ni MJ ang MLAT... tapos na ang kaso ni MJ. nangayo ta ug Legal Assistance from Indonesia to present MJ as witness/complainant. Hence na granted ug postponement. G?

    Kung "bata" ako unsa nalang kaha level sa imong utok lol.
    Last edited by Romeojin; 05-07-2015 at 11:39 AM.

  5. #85
    OT: nganu nag away man mo? Nag lalis?

  6. #86
    nagpasalamat nalang unta..bisan late na ang goberno na ni action para walay samok

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Hinoon kanang Credit Grabbing wala man nag issue ug statement si Pnoy ana si Coloma raman ... Kato Ramang mga Fanatic nag Imbento2x ana nga Tungod ni Panot naluwas si Veloso, mao pud reason na Late sa picture2x ...

    Ayaw intown mo Palabi ... dili mau ug manubrahan ta ka fanatic kay dili nato madawat ang kapalpakan depensa lang gihapon ta bisan kagidlay na ....
    Sa akong nabantayan, ikaw moy klase sa tao na mo "FANATIC", sa imong mga comment leftist kaayo at the same fanatic kaayo ug dating. tsk tsk..

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    Kabaw nako sa imong e comment, that I'm a Pnoy Fanatic, yellow zombies?, ug uban..
    buhat ug commentaryo basi sa thread ayaw e apil imong pagka "FANATIC"

  8. #88
    . c Pnoy dedma ra sa giingon sa mma ni MJ.. kamo nag-away na hinuon..

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    gigamit ra jud ng inahan ni mj sa mga militante.

    grabe kaayo makademand marami pa daw cyang sisingilin sa gov? naunsa cya? wa cya mag huna2x iyang anak na gikan ras illegal recruiter? drug mule pa jud saonnnzzzzz

    pwede pa siguro makasingil cya kung tarong na OFW si MJ

    ending result malabong mangyari yung sinabing singil

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by DEMONOCIETY View Post
    gigamit ra jud ng inahan ni mj sa mga militante.

    grabe kaayo makademand marami pa daw cyang sisingilin sa gov? naunsa cya? wa cya mag huna2x iyang anak na gikan ras illegal recruiter? drug mule pa jud saonnnzzzzz

    pwede pa siguro makasingil cya kung tarong na OFW si MJ

    ending result malabong mangyari yung sinabing singil
    Kulbaa nimog profile pic boss oi..

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