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  1. #81

    ang naka pait man gud aning BBL is .... IT WILL DO GOOD TO ONLY A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.... dili gyud ni para sa tanan nagpuyo didto na region ...
    Hay mga pataka nga istorya parehas ani maoy sinugdan sa kagubot sa forum. Dili ka makadungog ani na issue sa BBL nga gi raise sa mga political analyst na against sa BBL. Dinhi ra sa istorya.net. Wala ko kadungog ani na opinion sama ni Edcel Lagman, Rafael Alunan, na against sa BBL sa iya ra gyud...

  2. #82
    Islam in the Philippines


    "..As the American government prepared to give independence to the Philippines, Muslim
    chieftains gathered on March 18, 1935, in Dansalan (now Marawi City) and petitioned the
    US president not to include them in the new republic
    . The Muslims preferred to remain
    under US rule, recognizing that they would become second-class citizens if made part of
    the Catholic Philippines. Their petition was ignored. The Catholic majority gained their
    independence and control over the Muslim territories.

    The inauguration of the Filipino republic therefore presented a paradox. On the one hand,
    it was able to establish a state and a semblance of an identity. On the other hand, while the
    new republic tried to consolidate its newly found sovereignty, the Moros, who had nothing
    in common with the Christianized Filipinos, tilted toward independence instead of integration
    .

    Animosity defined the relationship between the Muslims and the Christians because
    of wars waged by the sultanates against the Spanish colonial government, who used Christianized
    natives to fight the Muslims. This historically parallel development of the Christian-dominant
    Filipino nation and the insulated Muslim sultanates gave the rebellion its
    ideological character: the Muslim insurgents called for the realization of a separate Moro
    nation in contradistinction with that of the Christianized Filipino nation
    . The ideology of
    the Moro rebellion has always maintained that the Moro nation has to be separate from the
    Philippine nation because it was illegally annexed to the Christian-dominant Filipino nation
    .

    ===

    mao ni ang excerpt sa usa ka history book.. since the beginning they dont want to integrate with the rest of the filipinos and live peacefully.

    link

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Islam in the Philippines


    "..As the American government prepared to give independence to the Philippines, Muslim
    chieftains gathered on March 18, 1935, in Dansalan (now Marawi City) and petitioned the
    US president not to include them in the new republic
    . The Muslims preferred to remain
    under US rule, recognizing that they would become second-class citizens if made part of
    the Catholic Philippines. Their petition was ignored. The Catholic majority gained their
    independence and control over the Muslim territories.

    The inauguration of the Filipino republic therefore presented a paradox. On the one hand,
    it was able to establish a state and a semblance of an identity. On the other hand, while the
    new republic tried to consolidate its newly found sovereignty, the Moros, who had nothing
    in common with the Christianized Filipinos, tilted toward independence instead of integration
    .

    Animosity defined the relationship between the Muslims and the Christians because
    of wars waged by the sultanates against the Spanish colonial government, who used Christianized
    natives to fight the Muslims. This historically parallel development of the Christian-dominant
    Filipino nation and the insulated Muslim sultanates gave the rebellion its
    ideological character: the Muslim insurgents called for the realization of a separate Moro
    nation in contradistinction with that of the Christianized Filipino nation
    . The ideology of
    the Moro rebellion has always maintained that the Moro nation has to be separate from the
    Philippine nation because it was illegally annexed to the Christian-dominant Filipino nation
    .

    ===

    mao ni ang excerpt sa usa ka history book.. since the beginning they dont want to integrate with the rest of the filipinos and live peacefully.

    link
    Kabalo baka aning EAst Timor na sakop sa Indonsia kaniadto? Google ang East Timor aron mabalo ka. 97% sa east Timor Roman catholic tapos Islamic State ang balaod.. Ikaw bay ganahan ka magpuyo ana na lugar, nga putol sa ulo kun makasala Tapos mga christian mo lahat diha gapuyo? Nag rebelde tawon sila oy hangtud me intervene ang UN kay halos massacre naman ang himoon sa Indonesia sa mga rebeldeng christiano... Na gets na nimo? Bali lang ni sitwasyon sa mga muslim sa Mindanao sa EAST TIMOR.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by wifi View Post
    Kabalo baka aning EAst Timor na sakop sa Indonsia kaniadto? Google ang East Timor aron mabalo ka. 97% sa east Timor Roman catholic tapos Islamic State ang balaod.. Ikaw bay ganahan ka magpuyo ana na lugar, nga putol sa ulo kun makasala Tapos mga christian mo lahat diha gapuyo? Nag rebelde tawon sila oy hangtud me intervene ang UN kay halos massacre naman ang himoon sa Indonesia sa mga rebeldeng christiano... Na gets na nimo? Bali lang ni sitwasyon sa mga muslim sa Mindanao sa EAST TIMOR.
    you quoted my comment but replied nothing in regards sa content.

    The ideology of the Moro rebellion has always maintained that the Moro nation has to be separate from the
    Philippine nation because it was illegally annexed to the Christian-dominant Filipino nation.
    Nganu ang mga rebeldeng muslim sa pinas, gilunggo-an ba sila ug ulo sa atong balaud? but how i wish mao ni buhaton sa atong gov noh? nganu mag rebelde man.. in relation sa imong east timor, nag rebelde sila kay abusive na ang govt, mao na main reason sa ila revolution dili ang balaud na death penalty. naay daghan nasud naay death penalty wa may sama ana nga rebelde. So imong east timor lahi nag sitwasyon para ka masayud.

    the Moros, who had nothing in common with the Christianized Filipinos, tilted toward independence instead of integration.
    dli lang jd ni sila katigo mo integrate ug live peacefully sa mga filipino.. cant live to be a filipino and follow one constitution. Gusto jd mag lahi ug ila.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by wifi View Post
    Kabalo baka aning EAst Timor na sakop sa Indonsia kaniadto? Google ang East Timor aron mabalo ka. 97% sa east Timor Roman catholic tapos Islamic State ang balaod.. Ikaw bay ganahan ka magpuyo ana na lugar, nga putol sa ulo kun makasala Tapos mga christian mo lahat diha gapuyo? Nag rebelde tawon sila oy hangtud me intervene ang UN kay halos massacre naman ang himoon sa Indonesia sa mga rebeldeng christiano... Na gets na nimo? Bali lang ni sitwasyon sa mga muslim sa Mindanao sa EAST TIMOR.
    Ngano i compare man sa East Timor/Indonesia ang BBL/Pilipinas dako lahi ana... kay ngano, giputlan ang mga ulo sa moklo under Ph Government

  6. #86
    OT: just wanna clarify this kung unsa ka tinuod nga mas dagko ug sweldo ang mga muslim teachers sa DEPed compara sa mga christianos?
    then the students is excused during praying hours nila?

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by contractman View Post
    OT: just wanna clarify this kung unsa ka tinuod nga mas dagko ug sweldo ang mga muslim teachers sa DEPed compara sa mga christianos?
    Cguro kadtong mga na assign na teachers (muslims ug Christians) ngadto sa mindanao cguro?



    then the students is excused during praying hours nila?
    this is true, it is their basic right pod bro.. same as other countries na gi hatagan na silang time para sa ilang prayers.. murag friday prayers man cguro na.

  8. #88
    ilaha sad nang rights same ra sad na sa atoa na every 1st friday mag mass sa school..

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Cguro kadtong mga na assign na teachers (muslims ug Christians) ngadto sa mindanao cguro?



    this is true, it is their basic right pod bro.. same as other countries na gi hatagan na silang time para sa ilang prayers.. murag friday prayers man cguro na.
    i see.. hope this students will embrace what they learnd in school nga dili maayo ipaagi sa armas ang pag asinso sa tawu.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by contractman View Post
    i see.. hope this students will embrace what they learnd in school nga dili maayo ipaagi sa armas ang pag asinso sa tawu.
    i certainly hope so.. dli pod ni sila ma apil sa mga rebelde. Pero adtong mga anak sa mga rebelde jd, 90% mo sunod jd sa ila tatay. mao man ni statistic ako nabasahan regards sa cycle sa mindanao moro rebels. ilang mga anak na laki, e encourage sa mga leaders nga ipa sunod ang ilang anak sa ilang cause.

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